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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 10:47 am 
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Tried to install on my production machine and the install hangs at "Starting udev hot-plug detection"

The Motherboard is a ASUS P4P800-E Deluxe w/Intel P4 3ghz 1gb mem
The CD tested ok with "tv testcd" option, and have also used the same cd to install on my test box.

I wanted to eliminate hardware so I tried the R5F27 install cd and it passed that install point with no problem.

I also tried several other install option "tv noscsi" "tv noapci" "knoppmyth noapic" and "knoppmyth acpi=off" but it still hangs at the same place.

Any suggestions?


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Does the screen flash as if it's trying to switch video modes at that point? There was s problem with a fb video driver which was eliminated during testing but you may have found a new variant... If it's related, you can often get past that by using a different output resolution...

Also try using the "expert" boot option to see if you can pin it down to what driver is the problem...


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During the install (at udev) the screen does not flash. I did try the install with no options, and then with the tv option so I did try it with different output resolutions.

Here is what I do see just before it hangs:
I can see it read the cd a few times then looks like it access the drive and then hangs.

I won't be able to try the expert option until the weekend. But will give that a try. If you have any other thoughts let me know.

Thanks!


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 3:09 pm 
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tjc,

Tried the install using expert, but it really didn't give me a lot of additional information. I couldn't capture all of the first 80 lines but here's what I got.
Code:
serial: i0042 AUX port at 0x60,0x64 irq 12
Mice: PS/2 mouse device common for all mice
input: AT Translated Set 2 Keyboard as /class/input/input1
md: raid0 personality regestered for level 0
md: raid1 personality regestered for level 1
raid6: int32x1    004 MS/s
raid6: int32x2    769 MS/s
raid6: int32x4    742 MS/s
raid6: int32x8    496 MS/s
raid6: mmxx1   1406 MS/s
raid6: mmxx2   1476 MS/s
raid6: sse1x1    832 MS/s
raid6: sse1x2   1306 MS/s
raid6: sse1x2   1306 MS/s
raid6: sse2x1   1609 MS/s
raid6: sse2x2   1929 MS/s
raid6 using algorithm sse2x2 (1929 MB/s)
md: raid6 personality regestered for level 6
md: raid5 personality regestered for level 5
md: raid4 personality regestered for level 4
device-mapper: [oct]: 4.11.0.[oct] (2006-10-12 initialized: dm-devel@redhat.com
NET: Registered protocol family 1
NET: Registered protocol family 15
Starting balanced_irq
Using [P] No-shortcut mode
input: PS/2 Generic Mouse as /class/input/input2
md: Auto detecting RAID arrays,
md: ... autorun DONE
RAMDISK: Compress image found at block 0
EXT2-fs warning: maximal mount count reached, running e2fsck is recomended
VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem)

Welcome to the KnoppMyth Linux Installation CD!


Scanning for USB/Firewire devices... Done
Enabling DMA acceleration for: hda      [ST3500641A]
Enabling DMA acceleration for: hdc   [LITE-ON- DVDRW SOHW-012S]
Accessing KNOPPIX CD at /dev/hdc
 Found primary KNOPPIX compressed image at /cdrom/KNOPPIX/KNOPPIX.
Total memory found: 1032052kB
Creating unionfs and synlinks on ramdisk...aufs test_add:387:mount[1340]:uid/gid/perm /KNO0755, 0/0/01777

>> Read-only CD system successfully merged with /ramdisk
Done.
Starting init process.
INIT: version 2.86. booting
runlevel S
ok
Running Linux Kernel 2.6.23-chw-4,
Processor 0 is Intek(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.000GHz, 1024 Cache
Processor 1 is Intek(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.000GHz, 1024 Cache
ACPI Bios found, activation modules: ac battery button container dock fan proceddor sbs thermo
USB found, managed by udev
Firewire found managed by udev
Starting udev hot-plug hardware detection...


Don't know how helpful that will be. If you need the first 80 is there a way to capture them?

Thanks,
Tim


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 3:30 pm 
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tscholl:

Try booting the CD with the option: tv failsafe

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The last bit was where I was hoping for more information anyway, but no dice... :-(


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 6:13 pm 
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mihanson wrote:
tscholl:

Try booting the CD with the option: tv failsafe


tv and failsafe are separate kernels are they not?

I've got a similar mobo and have similar problems. I'm re-burning the CD to see if that helps - since the last time it complained about the disk and dropped me to the minimal shell with ??mod options and mount options. The checkcd went black in the manner that it does with every other option.

I'd like to change the server, but until I know this works with my appletv and what would be my replacement backend which is my current frontend, the WAF wouldn't be into losing all MythTV if replacing the backend fails.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 10:54 pm 
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Haven't had a chance to try the failsafe route, but let me know how you make out.

I was also thinking of maybe removing some tuners and see it that makes a difference. I noticed that I have several cards sharing the same interrupts. So am thinking that might be something to try.

I have 4 tuners, 2 HD3000's, 1 PVR350, and 1 PVR150.


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K I now have a problem with a M2NPV mobo. For now I'm chalking it up to the CDs, or the burning. But on the new machine I got to the point where the testcd pointed out an anomoly with KNOPPMYTH/KNOPPMYTH.

So I'm only a maybe-has-the-same problem.


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I was also having this problem. I got around it by going into "expert" at the boot screen and it would not hang there anymore. Not sure why it mattered but that was the only way I could get around it.


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@tscholl - were you able to get it to install?

I'm running into this problem of 'kernel not found' on an old 440BX motherboard. To make matter worse, I'm trying to do the install OVER THE PHONE with someone who isn't computer savvy at all. I'll try the expert option and see how it goes.

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Long story short. I'm still working on it. I did get the Upgrade to run but had to remove both PVR cards (a 150, and a 350) to get linux to boot.

The install ran after removing the 150, but Linux would hang on startup.

After removing the 350 Linux booted and I was able to start the configure portion of the install.

Now I'm hosed with not having localhost in the
/home/mythtv/.mythtv/mysql.txt

Managed to get things up and running with the remaining 2 HD-3000 cards and 1 HD-5500.

Also had to make a change to Playback settings, from CPU+ (starting setting after the install) to Normal.

Still won't boot with either PVR cards. Now I need to figure out how to get a remote control.

Tim


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The saga continues -

I got past the database problem and had the system running with the two HD-3000 cards. I finally had some free time to start looking at the problem again.

I removed all the cards and inserted the PVR 350 and PVR 150 cards in different slots and got the install run without hanging. Then was able to add the HD-3000's back in different slots also got the install to run without hanging.

But still no luck in getting a functional machine. Here is the problem.

With any HD-3000 or HD-5500 card installed along with a PVR card, Linux hangs during startup right after bttv driver loads.
The last few lines are:
Code:
lirc_dev: IR Remote Control driver registered, major 61
bttv: driver version 0.9.17 loaded
bttv: using 8 buffers with 2080k (520 pages) for each capture
eth0: No IPv6 Routers present. 

At that point the machine is hung, and I can't get into the machine to look at the kernel log. Without the HD card it boots fine.

Any thoughts?


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I've been searching the forum trying to find help with a problem I'm having with upgrading to R5.5 and your symptoms here sound very similar to mine.

I have a similar setup as you whereby I've got a mixture of HD and SD capture cards an HD-3000 and a Hauppage 350. These were working perfectly well with R5F27.

The install process worked fine for me, but after installation the kernel hangs. I haven't tried removing any hardware, but I did use the livecd to access the hard drive and removed the saa7127.ko kernel module (with my kernel hang this seems to be the last module attempted to be loaded). The system will boot after that, but without that my 350 is useless. I checked dmesg from the livecd and it seems that it is encountering a stack trace with the saa7127 driver, though for whatever reason it doesn't cause a hang. Does your dmesg show any problems with the livecd?

My livecd dmesg output for the video drivers
Code:
cx88/0: cx2388x v4l2 driver version 0.0.6 loaded
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APC1] enabled at IRQ 16
ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:04:08.0[A] -> Link [APC1] -> GSI 16 (level, low) -> IRQ 21
cx88[0]: subsystem: 7063:3000, board: pcHDTV HD3000 HDTV [card=22,autodetected]
cx88[0]: TV tuner type 60, Radio tuner type -1
lirc_mod_mce[2]: Philips eHome Infrared Transceiver on usb2:2
usbcore: registered new interface driver lirc_mod_mce
cx88[0]/0: found at 0000:04:08.0, rev: 5, irq: 21, latency: 32, mmio: 0xf9000000
cx88/2: cx2388x MPEG-TS Driver Manager version 0.0.6 loaded
tuner' 2-0043: chip found @ 0x86 (cx88[0])
tda9887 2-0043: tda988[5/6/7] found @ 0x43 (tuner')
tuner' 2-0061: chip found @ 0xc2 (cx88[0])
tuner-simple 2-0061: type set to 60 (Thomson DTT 761X (ATSC/NTSC))
cx88[0]/0: registered device video0 [v4l2]
cx88[0]/0: registered device vbi0
cx88[0]/0: registered device radio0
cx88[0]/2: cx2388x 8802 Driver Manager
ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:04:08.2[A] -> Link [APC1] -> GSI 16 (level, low) -> IRQ 21
cx88[0]/2: found at 0000:04:08.2, rev: 5, irq: 21, latency: 32, mmio: 0xf8000000
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [AAZA] enabled at IRQ 22
ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:10.1[B] -> Link [AAZA] -> GSI 22 (level, low) -> IRQ 17
PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:10.1 to 64
cx88/2: cx2388x dvb driver version 0.0.6 loaded
cx88/2: registering cx8802 driver, type: dvb access: shared
cx88[0]/2: subsystem: 7063:3000, board: pcHDTV HD3000 HDTV [card=22]
cx88[0]/2: cx2388x based DVB/ATSC card
ivtv:  Start initialization, version 1.2.0
ivtv0: Initializing card #0
ivtv0: Autodetected Hauppauge card (cx23415 based)
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APC2] enabled at IRQ 17
ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:04:09.0[A] -> Link [APC2] -> GSI 17 (level, low) -> IRQ 22
ivtv0: Unreasonably low latency timer, setting to 64 (was 32)
tveeprom 3-0050: Encountered bad packet header [ff]. Corrupt or not a Hauppauge eeprom.
ivtv0: Autodetected Hauppauge WinTV PVR-350
ivtv0: No tuner detected, default to NTSC-M
DVB: registering new adapter (cx88[0])
DVB: registering frontend 0 (Oren OR51132 VSB/QAM Frontend)...
BUG: unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at virtual address 00000000
 printing eip:
f9265c2f
*pde = 00000000
Oops: 0000 [#1]
PREEMPT SMP
Modules linked in: saa7127 dvb_pll ivtv or51132 saa7115 cx88_dvb cx88_vp3054_i2c videobuf_dvb snd_hda_intel dvb_core msp3400 snd_pcm_oss snd_mixer_oss tuner tea5767 tda8290 tda18271 tda827x snd_pcm tuner_xc2028 tda9887 tuner_simple cx8802 mt20xx tea5761 snd_timer snd_page_alloc cx8800 cx88xx snd_hwdep ir_common i2c_algo_bit 8250_pnp snd cx2341x tveeprom compat_ioctl32 btcx_risc 8250 videobuf_dma_sg rtc_cmos lirc_mod_mce videodev v4l2_common v4l1_compat videobuf_core serial_core k8temp hwmon soundcore lirc_dev i2c_nforce2 i2c_core rtc_core pcspkr rtc_lib tsdev evdev usbhid ff_memless pcmcia firmware_class yenta_socket rsrc_nonstatic pcmcia_core video output thermal sbs processor fan dock container button battery ac aufs cloop sbp2 ohci1394 ieee1394 usb_storage ohci_hcd uhci_hcd ehci_hcd usbcore
CPU:    0
EIP:    0060:[<f9265c2f>]    Not tainted VLI
EFLAGS: 00010246   (2.6.23-chw-4 #1)
EIP is at i2c_probe+0xbf/0x210 [i2c_core]
eax: 0fff8007   ebx: 00000004   ecx: 00000000   edx: fa41f788
esi: 00000000   edi: 00000000   ebp: 00000002   esp: f70e1e54
ds: 007b   es: 007b   fs: 00d8  gs: 0033  ss: 0068
Process modprobe (pid: 3145, ti=f70e0000 task=dfe3abd0 task.ti=f70e0000)
Stack: c0567c1d c038d2a3 00000000 fa41e36c fa41cae0 fa41f788 c1bef050 22222222
       22222222 00000000 fa41e340 c1bef050 00000000 fa41e580 f9265845 fa41f7a7
       fa41e580 fa41e580 fa41e580 fa3844fc f8cbe06a fa41e580 c014ba16 00000002
Call Trace:
 [<c0567c1d>] __mutex_lock_slowpath+0x12d/0x290
 [<c038d2a3>] driver_create_file+0x33/0x50
 [<fa41cae0>] v4l2_i2c_drv_attach_legacy+0x0/0x30 [saa7127]
 [<f9265845>] i2c_register_driver+0xd5/0x120 [i2c_core]
 [<f8cbe06a>] v4l2_i2c_drv_init+0x6a/0xc9 [saa7127]
 [<c014ba16>] sys_init_module+0x126/0x1890
 [<c0161ebf>] generic_file_mmap+0x3f/0x50
 [<c0104412>] syscall_call+0x7/0xb
 =======================
Code: 24 24 8b 0c 90 8d 3c 90 85 c9 75 94 8b 44 24 18 8b 50 0c ff 52 0c a9 00 00 01 00 74 6a 8b 54 24 14 31 f6 bb 04 00 00 00 8b 4a 04 <0f> b7 11 66 83 fa fe 75 1b e9 9e 00 00 00 8d 76 00 0f b7 14 0b
EIP: [<f9265c2f>] i2c_probe+0xbf/0x210 [i2c_core] SS:ESP 0068:f70e1e54
ivtv0: Failed to load module saa7127
saa7115 3-0021: saa7115 found (1f7115d0e100000) @ 0x42 (ivtv i2c driver #0)
msp3400 3-0040: MSP4448G-A2 found @ 0x80 (ivtv i2c driver #0)
msp3400 3-0040: MSP4448G-A2 supports radio, mode is autodetect and autoselect
tuner 3-0043: chip found @ 0x86 (ivtv i2c driver #0)
tda9887 3-0043: tda988[5/6/7] found @ 0x43 (tuner)
tuner 3-0061: chip found @ 0xc2 (ivtv i2c driver #0)
tuner-simple 3-0061: type set to 0 (Temic PAL (4002 FH5))
ivtv0: Registered device video1 for encoder MPG (4096 kB)
ivtv0: Registered device video32 for encoder YUV (2048 kB)
ivtv0: Registered device vbi1 for encoder VBI (1024 kB)
ivtv0: Registered device video24 for encoder PCM (320 kB)
ivtv0: Registered device radio1 for encoder radio
ivtv0: Registered device video16 for decoder MPG (1024 kB)
ivtv0: Registered device vbi8 for decoder VBI (64 kB)
ivtv0: Registered device vbi16 for decoder VOUT
ivtv0: Registered device video48 for decoder YUV (1024 kB)
ivtv0: Initialized card #0: Hauppauge WinTV PVR-350
ivtv:  End initialization


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 8:48 am 
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boognish,

Never thought of using the boot cd to look at the logs. Great idea thanks!!

I have it back together running with the PVR.

Don't know when I'll get another chance to try it do the WAF. I hope to have some input on what else to try before I give it another shot. She can't live without it.

When I can I'll post the results. But looking at your log I believe my boot sequence has already past that point. I believe I was at that point a few times but was able to get past it by moving cards to different slots.

Tim


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