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rando
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 Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 12:30 pm |
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Okay, here's my specs:
Mobo: Abit-NF7-s (nforce2 chipset)
Proc: AMD 3000+
Ram: 256mb
HD: 200gb Western Digital (PATA)
Video: GeForce fx5700 leq (256mb)
Capture: Hauppauge PVR 150 MCE
Knoppmyth: R5A30.1
remote: none - running keyboard/mouse only
I've got everything installed (just went with the autoinstall method) and i'm somewhat up and running. I can view TV, and i get a clean picture (outputting to monitor, no TV hooked up yet) and sound.
I don't seem to be able to change the channel though. All I'm getting is channel 4. hitting up and down arrows when viewing TV blanks out the screen for a second, and then it reloads channel 4. I don't seem to be able to record anything either, though I don't know that I'm doing it right. I go in to try and sched a recording and it doesn't seem to want to save the settings. I get the "record this time", "record this time every week", "record all occurances" etc menus, and select the one to record this instance, nothing happens.
Does anyone know where I'm going wrong? Is there additional info I can provide to help you help me?
I'm somewhat new to linux (have installed it a few times in the past, and tweaked around a little....but haven't done much in the past 3 or so years). I'd consider myself a windows expert though, so am very much technically inclined. I'm comfortable going through very advanced steps if need be, so long as they are detailed and there are few assumptions being made that i will know how to get to a particular area, or what a particular setting should be. In other words, if you have a solution for me, spell it out in pretty good detail please.
Anything I'm forgetting?
*edit*
I should add, i'm using a straight analog connection here. Simply a piece of coax right into my pvr 150. No digital terminal, no satelite, nothing fancy like that......yet.
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tjc
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Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 7:29 pm |
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First go back through the mythtv-setup utility (Alt-S from the desktop) and check that you've got all the right settings.
Under "General" do you have the right TV standard and channel frequency tables for you cable system (it's about the 3rd screen)?
Under "Video Sources" do you have your program guide feed set up properly and has the data been downloaded?
Under "Input Connections" do you have that "video source" associated with the right input (most likely "Tuner" or "Tuner 0" and only that input? Also make sure you don't have a preset channel or a tuner script listed.
Second you tried upgrading to the 0.4.3 version of the IVTV drivers? See detailed the instructions on the wiki: http://www.knoppmythwiki.org/index.php?page=CompileIvtv
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edacsac
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Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 11:15 pm |
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I'm having the exact same troubles.
Quote: Under "General" do you have the right TV standard and channel frequency tables for you cable system (it's about the 3rd screen)? I have no idea what the right tv standard and frequency tables are. I'm guessing with ntsc (because the others sound to far off - even without knowing anything about the setting) and us cable, since I live in the us and hrc is always a bad coice when setting up a regular tv with cable. Quote: Under "Video Sources" do you have your program guide feed set up properly and has the data been downloaded? At one time it was, but now that I've been trying different settings in mythtv-setup, I have no more guide. Back to asking "what are the right settings?" Every few retries on the mythtv-setup, I'll reboot, try to get to the guide and I'll get the message "Myth Tv is using all available inputs for recording" which is not true, since I have yet to record anything. It seems as if there has to be another half to the installation guide out there. Initial installation was a breeze, but once I got into the mythtv-setup I had no clue. I don't know where to verify if my settings are truly correct. Quote: Second you tried upgrading to the 0.4.3 version of the IVTV drivers? I just downloaded the ISO yesterday. Would I be behind with the version I have?
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rando
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Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 12:00 am |
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tjc wrote: First go back through the mythtv-setup utility (Alt-S from the desktop) and check that you've got all the right settings. Okay, will do. tjc wrote: Under "General" do you have the right TV standard and channel frequency tables for you cable system (it's about the 3rd screen)? TV Format: NTSC (this is correct, i'm in Canada) VBI format: NTSC Closed Caption (the only other correct option here is none - i'm sure this isn't my problem) Channel frequency table: us-cable (yes, i'm in Canada, but I assumed that our systems work the same as the US. I don't see anything else in here that's likely to be a better pick) tjc wrote: Under "Video Sources" do you have your program guide feed set up properly and has the data been downloaded? I believe all my settings here are correct. Once i'm launched into the frontend, i do have a guide with all my channels/shows populated. I just can't do anything with/to it. tjc wrote: Under "Input Connections" do you have that "video source" associated with the right input (most likely "Tuner" or "Tuner 0" and only that input? Also make sure you don't have a preset channel or a tuner script listed. I have tried it with both 'Tuner 0' and 'Tuner 1' - Both are giving me the same results. My card is a PVR 150 MCE, I have it entered as the PVR 250/500 selection, because that seemed to me to be the closest thing, and I *think* i read somewhere else that someone had success with that. I'm still running whatever version of IVTV was packaged in with this image of knopp, and dont' actually know how to check to see which version of IVTV that actually is. tjc wrote: Second you tried upgrading to the 0.4.3 version of the IVTV drivers? See detailed the instructions on the wiki: http://www.knoppmythwiki.org/index.php?page=CompileIvtvThis sounds like something that would be better left for tomorrow =) It's midnight, just about on the nose, and i've just come off an 8 hour shift of answering the phone in the tech support department for a major cable ISP. My brain doesn't wanna attempt something like this right now.
I'll post my results tomorrow after I make an attempt at upgrading (do we know I have a lower version?) IVTV.
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tjc
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Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 12:18 am |
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rando wrote: Channel frequency table: us-cable (yes, i'm in Canada, but I assumed that our systems work the same as the US. I don't see anything else in here that's likely to be a better pick) Try us-cable-hrc, it's a simple change and may solve the problem. About 10-20% of the cable systems seem to use that. rando wrote: tjc wrote: Under "Input Connections" do you have that "video source" associated with the right input (most likely "Tuner" or "Tuner 0" and only that input? Also make sure you don't have a preset channel or a tuner script listed. I have tried it with both 'Tuner 0' and 'Tuner 1' - Both are giving me the same results. Tuner 1 is just a stub, Tuner 0 is correct. Non-MCE 150 cards show up as just "Tuner" with recent drivers. rando wrote: My card is a PVR 150 MCE, I have it entered as the PVR 250/500 selection, That would be the right one... MPEG-2 Encoder card (PVR-x50, PVR-500) rando wrote: tjc wrote: Second you tried upgrading to the 0.4.3 version of the IVTV drivers? See detailed the instructions on the wiki: http://www.knoppmythwiki.org/index.php?page=CompileIvtvThis sounds like something that would be better left for tomorrow =) It's midnight, just about on the nose, and i've just come off an 8 hour shift of answering the phone in the tech support department for a major cable ISP. My brain doesn't wanna attempt something like this right now. Dead easy. The instructions are all cut and paste and pretty much bomb proof. People report that it takes about 10 minutes.
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rando
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Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 1:05 am |
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Okay, so I gave it a shot. I'm pretty sure I've updated the IVTV drivers, i'm seeing 0.4.3 zip by when i reboot.
However, when I go into Capture Card Setup, I"m not seeing an item with PVR 150 in it (should I be?) I'm still only seeing the "mpeg-2 encoder card (PVR-250, PVR-250)" selection. Tuner 0 and Tuner 1 have been replaced by a single Tuner entry (as you said would happen).
I've noticed upon a closer look that my TV program is shifted by 6 hours, I guess i did a goof somewhere in my whole timezones thing. I could see that messing with scheduled recordings, but I should still be able to hit up and down arrows to scroll through my channels when watching live tv, no?
Any other thoughts anyone?
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rando
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Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 8:54 am |
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Does anyone know if there is a way I can test my tuner from a command prompt to see if it's an IVTV driver problem, or a problem with my Myth config itself?
Would booting up, then quitting out of myth, and manually putting in a command to tune a channel (if this is even possible) even really tell me anything? If i can do taht and move around through the channels then I will know that the card itself is working properly (not a hardware defect), I'll know that IVTV is correctly communicating with the card, and from there can pinpoint the problem down to MythTV itself (or identify the hardware or IVTV as the culprit perhaps).
Is this line of reasoning sound? Or am I way out in left field by even thinking to try this?
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edacsac
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Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 11:15 am |
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rando
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Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 11:33 am |
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Okay, I started over today. I wasn't confident that I hadn't messed things up while playing yesterday (previous to the steps provided by TJC).
So, i booted off my knoppmyth disc again, ran through the autoinstall again, then upgraded my IVTV to v 0.4.3 and completed the steps outlined above.
Rebooted, and all seems to be well. I am changing channels, and I'm recording.
Thank you very very much TJC. I do appreciate the time and effort you've put in.
There is a tiny tiny bit of audio stutter when watching live......but overall, i'm happy with things right now =) and I know how to fix it if I break it.
edacsac, follow the same steps above, and if you had the same issues as me you should be in good shape.
Cheers everybody.
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edacsac
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Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 7:50 pm |
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I did the upgrade to 0.4.3 from the link that tjc supplied. After rebooting and entering setup for capture device? I found "tuner" as opposed to tuner0 and tuner1. This looked hopeful. So I used "tuner", setup the other options as metioned here, and restarted mythtv. I select "watch tv" and get the message "myth tv is already using all available inputs for recording...". So I tried setup again with no change, and decide to do the ivtv upgrade again. No My pvr 150 is being found as a pvr250, and I get this at bootup:
Code: ivtv: ==================== START INIT IVTV ====================
ivtv: version 0.4.3 (tagged release) loading
ivtv: Linux version: 2.6.13.2-chw-3 SMP preempt 586 gcc-3.3
ivtv: In case of problems please include the debug info between
ivtv: the START INIT IVTV and END INIT IVTV lines, along with
ivtv: any module options, when mailing the ivtv-users mailinglist.
ivtv0: Autodetected WinTV PVR 250 card (cx23416 based)
ivtv0: Unreasonably low latency timer, setting to 64 (was 32)
tveeprom: ivtv version
ivtv0: i2c attach to card #0 ok [client=tveeprom, addr=50]
tuner (ivtv): chip found at addr 0xc2 i2c-bus ivtv i2c driver #0
ivtv0: i2c attach to card #0 ok [client=(tuner unset), addr=61]
cx25840 1-0044: ivtv driver
cx25840 1-0044: cx25841-23 found @ 0x88 (ivtv i2c driver #0)
ivtv0: i2c attach to card #0 ok [client=cx25840, addr=44]
wm8775 1-001b: ivtv driver
wm8775 1-001b: chip found @ 0x36 (ivtv i2c driver #0)
ivtv0: i2c attach to card #0 ok [client=wm8775, addr=1b]
ivtv0 warning: i2c client addr: 0x21 not found for command 0x8004646b!
ivtv0: loaded v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw firmware (262144 bytes)
ivtv0: Encoder revision: 0x02050032
ivtv0: Allocate DMA encoder MPEG stream: 128 x 32768 buffers (4096KB total)
ivtv0: Allocate DMA encoder YUV stream: 194 x 10800 buffers (2048KB total)
ivtv0: Allocate DMA encoder VBI stream: 120 x 17472 buffers (2048KB total)
ivtv0: Allocate DMA encoder PCM audio stream: 455 x 4608 buffers (2048KB total)
tuner: type set to 50 (TCL 2002N) by ivtv i2c driver #0
ivtv0 warning: i2c client addr: 0x21 not found for command 0x40085618!
ivtv0 warning: i2c client addr: 0x21 not found for command 0xc0045627!
ivtv0 warning: i2c client addr: 0x40 not found for command 0x40086d11!
ivtv0 warning: i2c client addr: 0x40 not found for command 0x80287610!
ivtv0 warning: i2c client addr: 0x40 not found for command 0x40287611!
ivtv0 warning: i2c client addr: 0x40 not found for command 0x40085618!
ivtv0 warning: i2c client addr: 0x21 not found for command 0x40085618!
ivtv0 warning: i2c client addr: 0x40 not found for command 0x80287610!
ivtv0 warning: i2c client addr: 0x40 not found for command 0x40287611!
ivtv0 warning: i2c client addr: 0x21 not found for command 0x40045613!
ivtv0 warning: i2c client addr: 0x40 not found for command 0x402c5639!
ivtv0 warning: i2c client addr: 0x21 not found for command 0x40045612!
ivtv0 warning: i2c client addr: 0x40 not found for command 0x80287610!
ivtv0 warning: i2c client addr: 0x40 not found for command 0x40287611!
ivtv0: Initialized WinTV PVR 250, card #0
ivtv: ==================== END INIT IVTV ====================
ivtv0: i2c attach to card #0 ok [client=Hauppauge PVR150 IR RX, addr=71]
ivtv0: i2c attach to card #0 ok [client=Hauppauge PVR150 IR TX, addr=70]
ivtv0 warning: i2c client addr: 0x40 not found for command 0x80287610!
ivtv0 warning: i2c client addr: 0x40 not found for command 0x40287611!
ivtv0 warning: i2c client addr: 0x21 not found for command 0x40045613!
ivtv0 warning: i2c client addr: 0x21 not found for command 0xc0045627!
ivtv0 warning: i2c client addr: 0x40 not found for command 0x40086d11!
ivtv0 warning: i2c client addr: 0x40 not found for command 0x80287610!
ivtv0 warning: i2c client addr: 0x40 not found for command 0x40287611!
ivtv0 warning: i2c client addr: 0x21 not found for command 0x40045612!
ivtv0 warning: i2c client addr: 0x40 not found for command 0x80287610!
ivtv0 warning: i2c client addr: 0x40 not found for command 0x40287611!
ivtv0 warning: i2c client addr: 0x21 not found for command 0xc0cc5605!
ivtv0 warning: i2c client addr: 0x21 not found for command 0x80046467!
And "tuner" has been replaced with "tuner0" and tuner1", and I can't even attach a video input. Any ideas?
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tjc
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Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 7:55 pm |
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Halt the system, let it sit for at least 30 seconds so that the firmware is really cleared from the card, reboot and check to see if the card was detected differently. We've seen a couple reports of this happening now and it seems to to be something intermitent.
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edacsac
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Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 9:25 pm |
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Thanks for your reply tjc,
Well, halting the system for a spell and rebooting detects the correct card without error. But if I restart afterwards, it brings up the pvr250 with all the errors from above.
When I do shutdown for awhile and bring it back up, I still get the message "myth tv is using all available inputs for recording ... blah blah", when I try to watch tv. There are no recordings going on, and there aren't any stored recordings. I've ran setup several times, and I do get "tuner" for the device. I've tried all the formats and frequencies that aren't obviously for a different country or something, and I still get the same message when trying to watch tv.
Do I have to run mythfilldatabase, or reboot the system everytime I make a device or input change? I did clear everything and run it again after you told me to halt for 30 seconds though.
Yesterday I could watch only one channel, now I can't get past that message about all available inputs being used.
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Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 9:45 pm |
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After my latest re-install this morning (the one that actually ended up being successful) I did get a message saying all tuners in use when i first attempted to watch TV. I rebooted and was fine from there. I don't know if my card was being picked up as a 250 as well, I didn't bother to look. It was working, and I was smiling, that's all I know. For what its' worth though, it seems I may have had the same problem (for any developers who may be reading at home and trying to track the issue for a possible bugfix).
Are you using a 150 MCE, or the non-MCE? I like the price of the card, and will consider buying again for future systems, but if the non-MCE is known to be less buggy, I may go that way instead.
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tjc
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Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 9:47 pm |
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After it's correctly detected you need to stop the backend, delete all the cards and add it back in mythtv-setup, then restart the backend. I know the misdetection on warm boot is ugly but at least you're not 100% borked. From the console after exiting the frontend:
Code: Alt-2 (stops the backend)
Alt-S (brings up mythtv-setup)
Alt-1 (starts the backend)
Alt-M (starts the frontend)
Don't forget to redo the input connections too.
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edacsac
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Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 12:57 pm |
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Thanks tjc,
Using the hotkey options you gave me to stop and start mythtv, I was eventually able to watch tv and change channels. Shortly afterwards though, I ran out of space and GDM wouldn't load. So I cleaned up some log files and got back in. Once back in I found that 2 minutes or so of a recorded show was reported at taking up 80% of my 12g available, and I couldn't delete for the life of me. Even deleting it from the command line wouldn't remove it from the recorded programs or delete menu in mythtv. It took me all morning to finally click the little box somewhere in setup that says "follow sym links" before I could truely delete anything, but on my way there I changed the recorded program path and the live tv cache to directories I created on hda4, not thinking that what was originally there might be sim links and changing those paths might be bad. At this point I'm stuck at the message of all available recording inputs are in use and can't get past it, and I've forgotten what the orginal paths where. That is really the only thing I have changed, other than clearing out log files. Also, ALT-1 does not start the backend anymore. Any ideas? I've ran setup and mythfilldatabase probably 20 times this morning with some reboots thrown in, and the same message comes up. I see progress, but each step forward turns into a step and 1/2 backwards.
Thanks again!
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