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Author: | buckarette [ Tue Jun 06, 2006 10:13 pm ] |
Post subject: | Good laugh on noobie (me) |
So I had mythtv up and working with a PVR350 with all output going to my tv and was quite pleased with myself. I am an absolute novice with linux and less than competent with hardware and driver configeration. So there I was feeling absolutely pleased with myself when all of a sudden I turned on the tv and only had a blue screen. I have mythtv sending the signal to a vcr with my satellite signal split to the myth box and the vcr so I can change channels directly without having it buffered (my next project is to get the ir receiver to change dish's sat receiver to change channels). Well, I was at a complete loss. I searched the forum, I checked logs (found some ivtv warnings) and was completely frozen with fear that I was going to screw everything up worse. During this time I was still able to access my box via putty and mythweb. So I rebooted. Things only got worse, I was no longer able to ssh in. I was devastated. I started thinking I needed to upgrade the ivtv driver from 4.3 to 4.4. In preparation for the drastic measure I was going to take I hooked up a monitor and started the box hoping that I would be able to understand what the error messages told me. Lucky for me, I can actually read. My first error message told me the box couldn't find the keyboard and it was waiting for me to tell it what to do. When I did a little snooping, I found my keyboard was no longer connected in the back of the box. Once I got the keyboard connected, well lo and behold everything booted up. I was able to ssh in and even open an xwindows session on my windows machine to check the setup configurations in mythtv frontend. But still no video on the tv just the blue screen. Again in preparation for the drastic measure I was about to take I decided to test the cables to verify that they still worked (at this point I was hoping desperately that they wouldn't. I can shop much better than I can recompile a driver). So I bypassed the vcr and sent the output from the pvr350 card directly to the tv. And lo and behold I could see mythfrontent. I finally figured out that I had mistakenly pushed a button on the vcr remote and it was no longer switching inputs on the vcr but on the tv to the video in source that didn't have anything hooked up to it. So to make a long story a bit longer, the problems I was having had nothing to do with mythtv, knoppix or even with computers at all. It was related to my inability to properly plug in a keyboard and use a remote properly (for all you smart *sses, no comments on the fact that I am a woman). Although this posting probably won't help anyone solve any problems they are having, it should at least make someone feel a little less foolish. Everyone other than me of course ![]() Thank you everyone for contributing to this project and forum. I could never have gotten my system to work at all if it hadn't been for the time that people have put into developing this project and posting their howto's and advice on this forum. Julie |
Author: | Liv2Cod [ Wed Jun 07, 2006 12:46 am ] |
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Aha! I thought you must be female. Not only can you read manuals and instructions and get things working, but you can figure out and fix problems AND write cogent sentences. Plus, you like to hack on home entertainment and linuix. Marry me. |
Author: | mjl [ Wed Jun 07, 2006 7:38 am ] |
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HI buckarette, You left out the important stuff, a little about your hardware, and version that you are running! When I saw the blue screen comment I knew where it was going ![]() Have a great day and enjoy your KM! Mike |
Author: | tjc [ Wed Jun 07, 2006 6:57 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Good laugh on noobie (me) |
buckarette wrote: ... I was devastated. I started thinking I needed to upgrade the ivtv driver from 4.3 to 4.4.
In preparation for the drastic measure ... This really is nowhere near as scary as all that. If you can ssh in, the CompileIvtv directions on wiki are written to "drunken monkey" detail. They look complicated, but in reality it's all just cut and paste. Frankly, even if you don't really need that version, it'd be worth doing just to see how easy it is. It only takes about 5 minutes, especially since you've already got the right firmware and only need to do steps 1-4. |
Author: | buckarette [ Sat Jun 10, 2006 5:54 pm ] |
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Sorry Liv2Cod I'm already married ![]() mjl - I posted my hardware on this listing (http://mysettopbox.tv/phpBB2/viewtopic. ... highlight=). I had to look it up on ebay (where I bought the box almost completely assembled). Otherwise I have no clue what I have. My hardware skills pale in comparison to my programming skills ![]() tjc - I ended up not needing to recompile ivtv, but now I am considering upgrading to R5C7 which will have the same result. I ended up posting to a topic that you have recently responded to (see link above) and would appreciate any insights you have on the question I posted there. Or anyone else's insights on that question for that matter. It is a good thing that lots of the howto's are written with a drunken monkey in mind. That about fits my level of expertise and it isn't a bad idea next time I am messing with my system and get frustrated (the drunken part anyway, not too sure I want to be a monkey). Thanks for all the replies. I hope you all got a chuckle. I know I did when I finally figured out the cause of the problem I was having. |
Author: | ComputerHouse [ Mon Jun 12, 2006 2:25 pm ] |
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Depending on the specific brand/model PC, there may or may not be a setting in the BIOS to boot without keyboard. So, if by chance you accidentally unplug the keyboard, you should still be able to boot the box and PUTTY into it. Just a thought. -Lee |
Author: | buckarette [ Mon Jun 12, 2006 5:28 pm ] |
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I did end up changing the bios to not stop on keyboard error as well as to restart after a power shutdown. We end up having quite a few power bumps here and I figured it would be a good thing to be able to ssh back in if we lose power briefly in the afternoon. |
Author: | mjl [ Mon Jun 12, 2006 8:16 pm ] |
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Hi buckarette, I had suggested that on your first post.. Quote: As for the keyboard, you may be able to turn off the stop on keyboard error in the cmos Power bumps, spend ~$50 and put a ups on it.
Mike |
Author: | tjc [ Mon Jun 12, 2006 8:31 pm ] |
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Ah nuts, Mike stole my thunder and lightnening story! ![]() ![]() ![]() Seriously it's the best $60 you can spend on any server type box (i.e. one that is left running to provide some service). Your hardware for this project isn't complete without one. Heck, I'll even stretch the point a bit and go so far as to say in certain parts of North America you'd be better off running a box without a HSF rather than without a UPS. Check the sales flyers and get thee to an office supply store! ![]() |
Author: | buckarette [ Mon Jun 12, 2006 8:46 pm ] |
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I'm definately going to get a UPS unless I throw the d*mned box out the window and use it for a lawn ornament. I thought I was doing really good. As of 1:00am last night I had R5C7 installed and working and within a couple of hours of getting home from work today I managed to send an irsend power signal and turn the dish receiver on and off and even change channels while watching livetv. Then I crashed my system, rebooted and can't get the silly irblaster to work again. I'm befuddled. I think I will let the box think about what it has done while I take care of the rest of my life. Maybe after its time out, it will behave itself. tjc & Mike, you guys are awesome! |
Author: | mjl [ Mon Jun 12, 2006 8:52 pm ] |
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Hi tjc, I'm sorry I messed up the story, however ups are good thing, even a cheap one, something just to take the bump. I had a Caldera server with over 500 days uptime, till the batteries failed on the selftests. Took me a couple of days to figure it out cause you have to be near by to hear the beeps, sort of like the falling tree making noise ![]() Mike |
Author: | buckarette [ Mon Jun 12, 2006 9:09 pm ] |
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BTW, what is an HSF? |
Author: | Greg Frost [ Mon Jun 12, 2006 9:13 pm ] |
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I pondered that myself for a while: Heat Sink Fan |
Author: | buckarette [ Mon Jun 12, 2006 9:20 pm ] |
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Since this is my original topic, I guess I can usurp it by changing topics in it slightly. What is a dangerous CPU temperature. Mine is running about 74 to 75C and I couldn't find any info on the manufacturers site about a max temperature range. |
Author: | tjc [ Mon Jun 12, 2006 9:28 pm ] |
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Holy ****!!! Anything over 65 is "BAD". Most modern CPUs throttle around 70C. Personally I start getting nervous at anything over 55C. Ideally my CPUs sit around 30C 90% of the time and never go above 45C. BTW - I wasn't _serious_ about running without a HSF... ![]() ![]() |
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