Hi,

I've just installed .20 over a clean install of R5D1 and then ran the 'pineapple' file to get DVD functionality and out of the bag, the internal DVD player appears to work fine.

My question is:

Which is better?

Xine (which I am more familiar with) or the new internal player?

Opinions please.

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Xine is far more reliable at this point. I know of several "obscure" ways to make the internal player go to the land of lost bits. Bizarre combinations of events like pausing and resuming playback. Seriously, IMO the internal player is still not ready for prime time. If you just poke around in the menus a bit or start the DVD and let it play to the end I think it works OK, but anything more complicated than that is really chancy.

If you use it, do so with the expectation that you're doing volunteer testing on something that's still fairly alpha, and not that you're running stable SW that's going to enhance the WAF/GAF.

I voted for "internal" because I believe this is the future, and I really WANT it to work well. So I'm betting on that horse.
I'm using it now, and yes, I just pretty much click 'n' go.
But I prefer it over Xine because it feels more integrated, and the keys/buttons work like TV. I never got around to completely programming my remote for Xine, and it's always been a hassle. And I put up with the "focus problem" for a long time, and I've come to dread going into Xine. That's solved now, of course.
But anyway, the internal player is good enough for me, and it's simplifying things a lot.

I never had a problem with focus on xine, perhaps I came in when it was stable enough. So far the internal playere seems ok on a quick test run, but I 'm not sure how well it handles 5.1 optical passthrough. When I ran Pirates of hte Caribbean speaker setup, I only got sterio. My reciever recognised it as a digital signal, but it didn't seem to output 5.1
The GAF/WAF factor is a real concern but as we don't seem to have much time at the moment to sit down and watch movies it isn't an immidiate problem.

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Version:R8
Intel C2D 7400, Nvidia 5600 via HDMI to Samsung B37B650TW (PAL), Asus P5QL-E mobo, 4Gb PC6400 DDR2 ram, Samsung Spinpoint 500 Gb & 1Tb drive, Nova-HD-S2 (x2)

unfortuantly its a choice between form or funtion..

xine is far more reliable right now.

but i use Internal, because its prettier and works 95% of the time.

So far 2:1 in favour of internal.
Perhaps I should just give it a go. Mind you, I've no time between now and at least a week next monday...
Well, folks keep telling me your opinions.

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Version:R8
Intel C2D 7400, Nvidia 5600 via HDMI to Samsung B37B650TW (PAL), Asus P5QL-E mobo, 4Gb PC6400 DDR2 ram, Samsung Spinpoint 500 Gb & 1Tb drive, Nova-HD-S2 (x2)

It's almost a tossup for me

One thing the internal dvd player does right is the aspect ratio. Xine squashes all my dvds because I don't have a real 16:9 modeline (it seems to assume all the pixels are square, regardless of what X says).

One thing it does horribly is xvmc playback. It's all choppy and the sound skips (and yet mythtv handles HD recordings with xvmc just fine).

The internal player occasionally crashes when fast-forwarding/rewinding. Xine can't rewind, so either way I'm restricted to just jumping forward and backward.

At the moment, I'm using the internal player because I can work around the rewinding and xvmc issues by not using them. I can't stop everyone from looking squashed in xine.

The internal DVD Player is one of the show stoppers preventing me from releasing a 0.20 update for myPVR. Internal is too buggy, especially the XvMC playback problems. Just submitted a patch to 0.20-fixes that fixes some of the problems, but not all of them.

My other issue is getting MythArchive cleanly installed with the correct directories etc, but that is amost sorted.

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