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Author: | adrianbc [ Thu Apr 28, 2005 11:31 am ] |
Post subject: | Auto Upgrade from R5A12 to R5A15 and lost inputs on PVR-250 |
Hi, I just tried to upgrade my working (and backed up) R5A12 to R5A15. This seemed to work fine but it appears that my PVR-250 isn't being recognized. How can I configure the PVR card? Here's my dmesg adrianbc@mythtv:~$ dmesg Linux version 2.6.11.7-chw-3 (root@mbe.mysettopbox.tv) (gcc version 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5-12)) #1 SMP Tue Apr 19 17:46:47 PDT 2005 BIOS-provided physical RAM map: BIOS-e820: 0000000000000000 - 000000000009fc00 (usable) BIOS-e820: 000000000009fc00 - 00000000000a0000 (reserved) BIOS-e820: 00000000000f0000 - 0000000000100000 (reserved) BIOS-e820: 0000000000100000 - 000000001fff0000 (usable) BIOS-e820: 000000001fff0000 - 000000001fff3000 (ACPI NVS) BIOS-e820: 000000001fff3000 - 0000000020000000 (ACPI data) BIOS-e820: 00000000fec00000 - 00000000fec01000 (reserved) BIOS-e820: 00000000fee00000 - 00000000fee01000 (reserved) BIOS-e820: 00000000ffff0000 - 0000000100000000 (reserved) 0MB HIGHMEM available. 511MB LOWMEM available. On node 0 totalpages: 131056 DMA zone: 4096 pages, LIFO batch:1 Normal zone: 126960 pages, LIFO batch:16 HighMem zone: 0 pages, LIFO batch:1 DMI 2.2 present. ACPI: RSDP (v000 Nvidia ) @ 0x000f6ea0 ACPI: RSDT (v001 Nvidia AWRDACPI 0x42302e31 AWRD 0x00000000) @ 0x1fff3000 ACPI: FADT (v001 Nvidia AWRDACPI 0x42302e31 AWRD 0x00000000) @ 0x1fff3040 ACPI: MADT (v001 Nvidia AWRDACPI 0x42302e31 AWRD 0x00000000) @ 0x1fff7740 ACPI: DSDT (v001 NVIDIA AWRDACPI 0x00001000 MSFT 0x0100000e) @ 0x00000000 ACPI: PM-Timer IO Port: 0x4008 ACPI: Local APIC address 0xfee00000 ACPI: LAPIC (acpi_id[0x00] lapic_id[0x00] enabled) Processor #0 6:4 APIC version 16 ACPI: LAPIC_NMI (acpi_id[0x00] high edge lint[0x1]) ACPI: IOAPIC (id[0x02] address[0xfec00000] gsi_base[0]) IOAPIC[0]: apic_id 2, version 17, address 0xfec00000, GSI 0-23 ACPI: INT_SRC_OVR (bus 0 bus_irq 0 global_irq 2 dfl dfl) ACPI: BIOS IRQ0 pin2 override ignored. ACPI: INT_SRC_OVR (bus 0 bus_irq 9 global_irq 9 high level) ACPI: INT_SRC_OVR (bus 0 bus_irq 14 global_irq 14 high edge) ACPI: INT_SRC_OVR (bus 0 bus_irq 15 global_irq 15 high edge) ACPI: IRQ9 used by override. ACPI: IRQ14 used by override. ACPI: IRQ15 used by override. Enabling APIC mode: Flat. Using 1 I/O APICs Using ACPI (MADT) for SMP configuration information Allocating PCI resources starting at 20000000 (gap: 20000000:dec00000) Built 1 zonelists Kernel command line: auto BOOT_IMAGE=Linux ro root=301 apm=power-off nomce mapped APIC to ffffd000 (fee00000) mapped IOAPIC to ffffc000 (fec00000) Initializing CPU#0 PID hash table entries: 2048 (order: 11, 32768 bytes) Detected 1336.304 MHz processor. Using pmtmr for high-res timesource Console: colour dummy device 80x25 Dentry cache hash table entries: 131072 (order: 7, 524288 bytes) Inode-cache hash table entries: 65536 (order: 6, 262144 bytes) Memory: 513588k/524224k available (3002k kernel code, 10084k reserved, 1138k data, 224k init, 0k highmem) Checking if this processor honours the WP bit even in supervisor mode... Ok. Calibrating delay loop... 2646.01 BogoMIPS (lpj=1323008) Security Framework v1.0.0 initialized Mount-cache hash table entries: 512 (order: 0, 4096 bytes) CPU: After generic identify, caps: 0183fbff c1c7fbff 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 CPU: After vendor identify, caps: 0183fbff c1c7fbff 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 CPU: L1 I Cache: 64K (64 bytes/line), D cache 64K (64 bytes/line) CPU: L2 Cache: 256K (64 bytes/line) CPU: After all inits, caps: 0183fbff c1c7fbff 00000000 00000020 00000000 00000000 00000000 Enabling fast FPU save and restore... done. Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK. CPU0: AMD Athlon(tm) processor stepping 04 per-CPU timeslice cutoff: 731.04 usecs. task migration cache decay timeout: 1 msecs. Total of 1 processors activated (2646.01 BogoMIPS). ENABLING IO-APIC IRQs ..TIMER: vector=0x31 pin1=0 pin2=-1 Brought up 1 CPUs CPU0 attaching sched-domain: domain 0: span 0001 groups: 0001 domain 1: span 0001 groups: 0001 checking if image is initramfs...it isn't (no cpio magic); looks like an initrd Freeing initrd memory: 3k freed NET: Registered protocol family 16 PCI: PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xfb4a0, last bus=2 PCI: Using configuration type 1 mtrr: v2.0 (20020519) ACPI: Subsystem revision 20050211 ACPI: Interpreter enabled ACPI: Using IOAPIC for interrupt routing ACPI: PCI Root Bridge [PCI0] (00:00) PCI: Probing PCI hardware (bus 00) PCI: nForce2 C1 Halt Disconnect fixup ACPI: PCI Interrupt Routing Table [\_SB_.PCI0._PRT] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Routing Table [\_SB_.PCI0.HUB0._PRT] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Routing Table [\_SB_.PCI0.AGPB._PRT] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNK1] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 *9 10 11 12 14 15) ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNK2] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 9 10 11 12 14 15) *0, disabled. ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNK3] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 9 10 11 12 14 15) *0, disabled. ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNK4] (IRQs 3 4 *5 6 7 9 10 11 12 14 15) ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNK5] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 9 10 11 12 14 15) *0, disabled. ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LUBA] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 9 10 *11 12 14 15) ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LUBB] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 *9 10 11 12 14 15) ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LMAC] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 9 10 *11 12 14 15) ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LAPU] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 9 10 11 12 14 15) *0, disabled. ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LACI] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 9 10 *11 12 14 15) ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LMCI] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 9 10 11 12 14 15) *0, disabled. ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LSMB] (IRQs 3 4 *5 6 7 9 10 11 12 14 15) ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LUB2] (IRQs 3 4 *5 6 7 9 10 11 12 14 15) ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LFIR] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 9 10 11 12 14 15) *0, disabled. ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [L3CM] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 9 10 11 12 14 15) *0, disabled. ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LIDE] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 9 10 11 12 14 15) *0, disabled. ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APC1] (IRQs *16), disabled. ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APC2] (IRQs *17), disabled. ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APC3] (IRQs *18), disabled. ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APC4] (IRQs *19), disabled. ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APC5] (IRQs *16), disabled. ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APCF] (IRQs 20 21 22) *0, disabled. ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APCG] (IRQs 20 21 22) *0, disabled. ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APCH] (IRQs 20 21 22) *0, disabled. ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APCI] (IRQs 20 21 22) *0, disabled. ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APCJ] (IRQs 20 21 22) *0, disabled. ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APCK] (IRQs 20 21 22) *0, disabled. ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APCS] (IRQs *23), disabled. ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APCL] (IRQs 20 21 22) *0, disabled. ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APCM] (IRQs 20 21 22) *0, disabled. ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [AP3C] (IRQs 20 21 22) *0, disabled. ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APCZ] (IRQs 20 21 22) *0, disabled. Linux Plug and Play Support v0.97 (c) Adam Belay pnp: PnP ACPI init pnp: PnP ACPI: found 16 devices PnPBIOS: Disabled by ACPI PNP SCSI subsystem initialized PCI: Using ACPI for IRQ routing ** PCI interrupts are no longer routed automatically. If this ** causes a device to stop working, it is probably because the ** driver failed to call pci_enable_device(). As a temporary ** workaround, the "pci=routeirq" argument restores the old ** behavior. If this argument makes the device work again, ** please email the output of "lspci" to bjorn.helgaas@hp.com ** so I can fix the driver. pnp: 00:00: ioport range 0x4000-0x407f could not be reserved pnp: 00:00: ioport range 0x4080-0x40ff has been reserved pnp: 00:00: ioport range 0x4400-0x447f has been reserved pnp: 00:00: ioport range 0x4480-0x44ff could not be reserved pnp: 00:00: ioport range 0x4200-0x427f has been reserved pnp: 00:00: ioport range 0x4280-0x42ff has been reserved pnp: 00:01: ioport range 0x5000-0x503f has been reserved pnp: 00:01: ioport range 0x5100-0x513f has been reserved Total HugeTLB memory allocated, 0 VFS: Disk quotas dquot_6.5.1 Dquot-cache hash table entries: 1024 (order 0, 4096 bytes) SGI XFS with ACLs, security attributes, realtime, large block numbers, no debug enabled SGI XFS Quota Management subsystem Supermount version 2.0.8 for kernel 2.6 Initializing Cryptographic API vesafb: framebuffer at 0xb0000000, mapped to 0xe0880000, using 6144k, total 131072k vesafb: mode is 1024x768x16, linelength=2048, pages=1 vesafb: protected mode interface info at c000:dcd0 vesafb: scrolling: redraw vesafb: Truecolor: size=0:5:6:5, shift=0:11:5:0 bootsplash 3.1.6-2004/03/31: looking for picture...<6>...no good signature found. Console: switching to colour frame buffer device 128x48 fb0: VESA VGA frame buffer device isapnp: Scanning for PnP cards... isapnp: No Plug & Play device found serio: i8042 AUX port at 0x60,0x64 irq 12 serio: i8042 KBD port at 0x60,0x64 irq 1 io scheduler noop registered io scheduler anticipatory registered io scheduler deadline registered io scheduler cfq registered Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M FDC 0 is a post-1991 82077 RAMDISK driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 4096K size 1024 blocksize loop: loaded (max 8 devices) Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 7.00alpha2 ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx NFORCE2: IDE controller at PCI slot 0000:00:09.0 NFORCE2: chipset revision 162 NFORCE2: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later NFORCE2: BIOS didn't set cable bits correctly. Enabling workaround. NFORCE2: 0000:00:09.0 (rev a2) UDMA133 controller ide0: BM-DMA at 0xf000-0xf007, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:DMA ide1: BM-DMA at 0xf008-0xf00f, BIOS settings: hdc:DMA, hdd:DMA Probing IDE interface ide0... hda: WDC WD2000JB-00GVA0, ATA DISK drive ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14 Probing IDE interface ide1... hdc: MATSHITADVD-RAM LF-D310, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15 Probing IDE interface ide2... Probing IDE interface ide3... Probing IDE interface ide4... Probing IDE interface ide5... hda: max request size: 1024KiB hda: 390721968 sectors (200049 MB) w/8192KiB Cache, CHS=24321/255/63, UDMA(100) hda: cache flushes supported hda: hda1 hda2 hda3 hda4 hdc: ATAPI DVD-ROM DVD-R-RAM drive, 1024kB Cache, UDMA(33) Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.20 libata version 1.10 loaded. Fusion MPT base driver 3.01.18 Copyright (c) 1999-2004 LSI Logic Corporation Fusion MPT SCSI Host driver 3.01.18 Fusion MPT misc device (ioctl) driver 3.01.18 mptctl: Registered with Fusion MPT base driver mptctl: /dev/mptctl @ (major,minor=10,220) mice: PS/2 mouse device common for all mice input: AT Translated Set 2 keyboard on isa0060/serio0 input: PS/2 Generic Mouse on isa0060/serio1 md: linear personality registered as nr 1 md: raid0 personality registered as nr 2 md: raid1 personality registered as nr 3 md: raid10 personality registered as nr 9 md: raid5 personality registered as nr 4 raid5: measuring checksumming speed 8regs : 2024.000 MB/sec 8regs_prefetch: 1804.000 MB/sec 32regs : 1284.000 MB/sec 32regs_prefetch: 1272.000 MB/sec pII_mmx : 3556.000 MB/sec p5_mmx : 4720.000 MB/sec raid5: using function: p5_mmx (4720.000 MB/sec) raid6: int32x1 511 MB/s raid6: int32x2 640 MB/s raid6: int32x4 382 MB/s raid6: int32x8 382 MB/s raid6: mmxx1 1121 MB/s raid6: mmxx2 1910 MB/s raid6: sse1x1 1074 MB/s raid6: sse1x2 1757 MB/s raid6: using algorithm sse1x2 (1757 MB/s) md: raid6 personality registered as nr 8 md: multipath personality registered as nr 7 md: faulty personality registered as nr 10 md: md driver 0.90.1 MAX_MD_DEVS=256, MD_SB_DISKS=27 device-mapper: 4.4.0-ioctl (2005-01-12) initialised: dm-devel@redhat.com NET: Registered protocol family 2 IP: routing cache hash table of 2048 buckets, 32Kbytes TCP established hash table entries: 32768 (order: 7, 524288 bytes) TCP bind hash table entries: 32768 (order: 6, 393216 bytes) TCP: Hash tables configured (established 32768 bind 32768) NET: Registered protocol family 1 NET: Registered protocol family 15 ACPI wakeup devices: SLPB HUB0 HUB1 USB0 USB1 USB2 F139 MMAC MMCI UAR1 ACPI: (supports S0 S1 S4 S5) md: Autodetecting RAID arrays. md: autorun ... md: ... autorun DONE. RAMDISK: Compressed image found at block 0 VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem). EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. VFS: Mounted root (ext3 filesystem) readonly. Trying to move old root to /initrd ... <6>kjournald starting. Commit interval 5 seconds okay Freeing unused kernel memory: 224k freed Adding 891596k swap on /dev/hda2. Priority:-1 extents:1 EXT3 FS on hda1, internal journal usbcore: registered new driver usbfs usbcore: registered new driver hub USB Universal Host Controller Interface driver v2.2 ohci_hcd: 2004 Nov 08 USB 1.1 'Open' Host Controller (OHCI) Driver (PCI) ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APCF] enabled at IRQ 22 ACPI: PCI interrupt 0000:00:02.0[A] -> GSI 22 (level, high) -> IRQ 22 ohci_hcd 0000:00:02.0: nVidia Corporation nForce2 USB Controller PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:02.0 to 64 ohci_hcd 0000:00:02.0: irq 22, pci mem 0xc6003000 ohci_hcd 0000:00:02.0: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 1 hub 1-0:1.0: USB hub found hub 1-0:1.0: 3 ports detected ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APCG] enabled at IRQ 21 ACPI: PCI interrupt 0000:00:02.1[B] -> GSI 21 (level, high) -> IRQ 21 ohci_hcd 0000:00:02.1: nVidia Corporation nForce2 USB Controller (#2) PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:02.1 to 64 ohci_hcd 0000:00:02.1: irq 21, pci mem 0xc6004000 ohci_hcd 0000:00:02.1: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 2 hub 2-0:1.0: USB hub found hub 2-0:1.0: 3 ports detected Initializing USB Mass Storage driver... usbcore: registered new driver usb-storage USB Mass Storage support registered. ieee1394: Initialized config rom entry `ip1394' Real Time Clock Driver v1.12 ACPI: Power Button (FF) [PWRF] ACPI: Sleep Button (CM) [SLPB] ACPI: Fan [FAN] (on) ACPI: Thermal Zone [THRM] (21 C) Linux Kernel Card Services options: [pci] [cardbus] [pm] Serial: 8250/16550 driver $Revision: 1.90 $ 8 ports, IRQ sharing disabled ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A ttyS1 at I/O 0x2f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A parport: PnPBIOS parport detected. parport0: PC-style at 0x378, irq 7 [PCSPP,TRISTATE] Linux agpgart interface v0.100 (c) Dave Jones agpgart: Detected NVIDIA nForce2 chipset agpgart: Maximum main memory to use for agp memory: 439M agpgart: AGP aperture is 512M @ 0x80000000 i2c_adapter i2c-0: nForce2 SMBus adapter at 0x5000 i2c_adapter i2c-1: nForce2 SMBus adapter at 0x5100 forcedeth.c: Reverse Engineered nForce ethernet driver. Version 0.31. ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APCH] enabled at IRQ 20 ACPI: PCI interrupt 0000:00:04.0[A] -> GSI 20 (level, high) -> IRQ 20 PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:04.0 to 64 eth0: forcedeth.c: subsystem: 010de:0c11 bound to 0000:00:04.0 ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APCJ] enabled at IRQ 22 ACPI: PCI interrupt 0000:00:06.0[A] -> GSI 22 (level, high) -> IRQ 22 PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:06.0 to 64 intel8x0_measure_ac97_clock: measured 49892 usecs intel8x0: clocking to 47423 NET: Registered protocol family 17 NET: Registered protocol family 10 IPv6 over IPv4 tunneling driver kjournald starting. Commit interval 5 seconds EXT3 FS on hda4, internal journal EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. Disabled Privacy Extensions on device c04bcf80(lo) Warning: /proc/ide/hd?/settings interface is obsolete, and will be removed soon! lirc_dev: IR Remote Control driver registered, at major 61 Linux video capture interface: v1.00 bttv: driver version 0.9.15 loaded bttv: using 8 buffers with 2080k (520 pages) each for capture tuner: Unknown parameter `type' saa7115: starting probe for adapter SMBus nForce2 adapter at 5000 (0x0) saa7115: starting probe for adapter SMBus nForce2 adapter at 5100 (0x0) ivtv: Unknown parameter `debug' cx2388x v4l2 driver version 0.0.4 loaded tuner: Unknown parameter `type' ivtv: Unknown parameter `debug' tuner: Unknown parameter `type' ivtv: Unknown parameter `debug' tuner: Unknown parameter `type' ivtv: Unknown parameter `debug' tuner: Unknown parameter `type' ivtv: Unknown parameter `debug' tuner: Unknown parameter `type' ivtv: Unknown parameter `debug' tuner: Unknown parameter `type' ivtv: Unknown parameter `debug' eth0: no IPv6 routers present ts: Compaq touchscreen protocol output input: PC Speaker ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A ttyS1 at I/O 0x2f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APCL] enabled at IRQ 21 ACPI: PCI interrupt 0000:00:02.2[C] -> GSI 21 (level, high) -> IRQ 21 ehci_hcd 0000:00:02.2: nVidia Corporation nForce2 USB Controller PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:02.2 to 64 ehci_hcd 0000:00:02.2: irq 21, pci mem 0xc6005000 ehci_hcd 0000:00:02.2: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 3 PCI: cache line size of 64 is not supported by device 0000:00:02.2 ehci_hcd 0000:00:02.2: park 0 ehci_hcd 0000:00:02.2: USB 2.0 initialized, EHCI 1.00, driver 10 Dec 2004 hub 3-0:1.0: USB hub found hub 3-0:1.0: 6 ports detected cpci_hotplug: CompactPCI Hot Plug Core version: 0.2 pci_hotplug: PCI Hot Plug PCI Core version: 0.5 shpchp: shpc_init : shpc_cap_offset == 0 shpchp: shpc_init : shpc_cap_offset == 0 shpchp: Standard Hot Plug PCI Controller Driver version: 0.4 nvidia: module license 'NVIDIA' taints kernel. ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APC4] enabled at IRQ 19 ACPI: PCI interrupt 0000:02:00.0[A] -> GSI 19 (level, high) -> IRQ 19 NVRM: loading NVIDIA Linux x86 NVIDIA Kernel Module 1.0-7174 Tue Mar 22 06:44:39 PST 2005 agpgart: Found an AGP 3.0 compliant device at 0000:00:00.0. agpgart: Putting AGP V3 device at 0000:00:00.0 into 8x mode agpgart: Putting AGP V3 device at 0000:02:00.0 into 8x mode agpgart: Found an AGP 3.0 compliant device at 0000:00:00.0. agpgart: Putting AGP V3 device at 0000:00:00.0 into 8x mode agpgart: Putting AGP V3 device at 0000:02:00.0 into 8x mode tuner: Unknown parameter `type' ivtv: Unknown parameter `debug' |
Author: | cecil [ Thu Apr 28, 2005 12:27 pm ] |
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Take a look at the last two lines you posted. If that doesn't help, perhaps this will. |
Author: | adrianbc [ Thu Apr 28, 2005 4:20 pm ] |
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Thank you very much . That fixed the problem. Adrian |
Author: | promacuser [ Mon Apr 10, 2006 1:25 pm ] |
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cecil, i fail to see how anyone searching for the error lines would come across that post you linked. pepole here are so pissy about how nobody can find things when they search, but there's no reason that they should find certain things. . . |
Author: | cecil [ Mon Apr 10, 2006 2:41 pm ] |
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I guess you were digging for a fight... This thread is almost a year old. At no time did I tell adrianbc to search the forum. I told him exactly where to look in the log he posted. In addition, I gave him the exact link on how to solve this. He even reported back that the fix works. If memory serves, I even flagged this possible problem in my release notes. So, what exactly is your problem? Did I tell you to search in another thread? If so, why are you appending to what is a resolved thread? If you don't like the way things are conducted on the forum, don't visit it. It is that simple. Do yourself a favor... Think before your respond. |
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