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finger51

Post subject: New vid card for new monitor?

Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 1:10 pm

Joined: Tue Mar 22, 2005 11:56 am

Posts: 110

Location: San Francisco

Hi~

I'm upgrading my workstation monitor to a new 22" or 24" LCD panel.

I'm reading lot's of user feedback on Newegg saying that the 1680 x 1050 monitors need a pretty decent video card driving the show.

I'm currently running a geforce 6600 AGP with 128 megs. I'm running kanotix and I don't really game all that much. Movies & keeping track of my digital camera pictures is about all I do graphics wise.

Do I need a better video card? TIA

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tjc

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Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 2:29 pm

Joined: Thu Mar 25, 2004 11:00 am

Posts: 9551

Location: Arlington, MA

That should be OK. I've got a similar grade of video card in my WS box driving a 1600x1200 LCD. Although I may have 256Mb of VRAM. See how your specs compare to this...

Code:

[root@x2 ~]# grep 'NVIDIA(0)' /var/log/Xorg.0.log
(**) NVIDIA(0): Depth 24, (--) framebuffer bpp 32
(==) NVIDIA(0): RGB weight 888
(==) NVIDIA(0): Default visual is TrueColor
(==) NVIDIA(0): Using gamma correction (1.0, 1.0, 1.0)
(**) NVIDIA(0): Option "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "True"
(**) NVIDIA(0): Enabling RENDER acceleration
(II) NVIDIA(0): Support for GLX with the Damage and Composite X extensions is
(II) NVIDIA(0):     enabled.
(II) NVIDIA(0): NVIDIA GPU GeForce 6600 at PCI:1:0:0 (GPU-0)
(--) NVIDIA(0): Memory: 262144 kBytes
(--) NVIDIA(0): VideoBIOS: 05.43.02.82.68
(II) NVIDIA(0): Detected PCI Express Link width: 16X
(--) NVIDIA(0): Interlaced video modes are supported on this GPU
(--) NVIDIA(0): Connected display device(s) on GeForce 6600 at PCI:1:0:0:
(--) NVIDIA(0):     Samsung SyncMaster (DFP-0)
(--) NVIDIA(0): Samsung SyncMaster (DFP-0): 155.0 MHz maximum pixel clock
(--) NVIDIA(0): Samsung SyncMaster (DFP-0): Internal Single Link TMDS
(II) NVIDIA(0): Assigned Display Device: DFP-0
(II) NVIDIA(0): Validated modes:
(II) NVIDIA(0):     "1600x1200"
(II) NVIDIA(0):     "1600x1024"
(II) NVIDIA(0):     "1440x900"
(II) NVIDIA(0):     "1400x1050"
(II) NVIDIA(0):     "1280x1024"
(II) NVIDIA(0):     "1280x960"
(II) NVIDIA(0):     "1280x800"
(II) NVIDIA(0):     "1152x864"
(II) NVIDIA(0):     "1024x768"
(II) NVIDIA(0):     "800x600"
(II) NVIDIA(0):     "640x480"
(II) NVIDIA(0): Virtual screen size determined to be 1600 x 1200
(--) NVIDIA(0): DPI set to (99, 98); computed from "UseEdidDpi" X config
(--) NVIDIA(0):     option
(II) NVIDIA(0): Setting mode "1600x1200"
(II) NVIDIA(0): NVIDIA 3D Acceleration Architecture Initialized
(II) NVIDIA(0): Using the NVIDIA 2D acceleration architecture
(==) NVIDIA(0): Backing store disabled
(==) NVIDIA(0): Silken mouse enabled
(**) NVIDIA(0): DPMS enabled

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finger51

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Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 6:51 pm

Joined: Tue Mar 22, 2005 11:56 am

Posts: 110

Location: San Francisco

Ah I see a main difference in yours- you're using PCIe. I'm still using AGP on this box. I wonder if that is really a big deal. Or if it's just a 'more pixels, more memory' consideration.

Code:

# grep 'NVIDIA(0)' /var/log/Xorg.0.log
(**) NVIDIA(0): Depth 24, (--) framebuffer bpp 32
(==) NVIDIA(0): RGB weight 888
(==) NVIDIA(0): Default visual is TrueColor
(==) NVIDIA(0): Using gamma correction (1.0, 1.0, 1.0)
(**) NVIDIA(0): Option "RenderAccel" "1"
(**) NVIDIA(0): Option "IgnoreDisplayDevices" "TV"
(**) NVIDIA(0): Option "AllowGLXWithComposite" "1"
(**) NVIDIA(0): Option "RandRRotation" "1"
(**) NVIDIA(0): Option "Coolbits" "1"
(**) NVIDIA(0): Option "TripleBuffer" "1"
(**) NVIDIA(0): Option "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "1"
(**) NVIDIA(0): Option "DisableGLXRootClipping" "1"
(**) NVIDIA(0): Enabling RENDER acceleration
(II) NVIDIA(0): NVIDIA GPU GeForce 6600 GT at PCI:3:0:0 (GPU-0)
(--) NVIDIA(0): Memory: 131072 kBytes
(--) NVIDIA(0): VideoBIOS: 05.43.02.69.68
(II) NVIDIA(0): Detected AGP rate: 4X
(--) NVIDIA(0): Interlaced video modes are supported on this GPU
(--) NVIDIA(0): Connected display device(s) on GeForce 6600 GT at PCI:3:0:0:
(--) NVIDIA(0):     ViewSonic VP181 (DFP-0)
(--) NVIDIA(0): ViewSonic VP181 (DFP-0): 155.0 MHz maximum pixel clock
(--) NVIDIA(0): ViewSonic VP181 (DFP-0): Internal Single Link TMDS
(II) NVIDIA(0): Assigned Display Device: DFP-0
(II) NVIDIA(0): Validated modes:
(II) NVIDIA(0):     "1280x1024"
(II) NVIDIA(0):     "1152x864"
(II) NVIDIA(0):     "1024x768"
(II) NVIDIA(0):     "800x600"
(II) NVIDIA(0):     "640x480"
(II) NVIDIA(0): Virtual screen size determined to be 1280 x 1024
(++) NVIDIA(0): DPI set to (72, 72); computed from -dpi X commandline option
(WW) NVIDIA(0): 32-bit ARGB GLX visuals require the Composite extension.
(II) NVIDIA(0): Disabling 32-bit ARGB GLX visuals.
(II) NVIDIA(0): Setting mode "1280x1024"
(II) NVIDIA(0): NVIDIA 3D Acceleration Architecture Initialized
(II) NVIDIA(0): Using the NVIDIA 2D acceleration architecture
(==) NVIDIA(0): Backing store disabled
(==) NVIDIA(0): Silken mouse enabled
(**) NVIDIA(0): DPMS enabled
(II) NVIDIA(0): Setting mode "1280x1024"

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Dale

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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 1:03 am

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Posts: 357

Location: Irvine, Ca

Personally, I'd expect an 8x AGP card with 128 MB of that category to be able to 'do the job'.

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datobin1

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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 9:15 am

Joined: Wed Dec 21, 2005 1:14 pm

Posts: 145

Location: Charlotte NC USA

That card will be fine. You would only benifit from a new one while gaming.

I have a machine here with a Geforce 4200 running beryl in all its 3d glory without an issue.

The reason you see concerns with high resolution LCDs is for gaming. With lcds you want to keep a 1 to 1 pixle mapping to keep the image sharp (run the display at its native resolution) . With a crt this isn't a concern since it is not a fixed pixle display.

Running a modern game @ 1680x1050 take a bit of a video card. With a crt you would just drop the resolution down while playing the game (1280X720 or eving 854X480) if needed. You can do this with an lcd but you will loose the sharpness of the 1 to 1 pixle mapping. You will also be at the mercy of the monitors scaler since it will have to scale to the panels native resolution.

In 2d or even a 3d desktop enviroment the card will have plenty of power to get the job done.

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ik632

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Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 9:03 am

Joined: Thu May 05, 2005 2:12 pm

Posts: 152

Location: Raleigh, NC

I have a 6600GT 256mb AGP card driving a 22" Westinghouse LCD at the same resolution as you and it's working well. I go back and forth between the "if it ain't broke then don't fix it" to the "if it ain't broke, when will you break it to fix it" modes of thinking and today I'm in the leave it alone mode. Honestly, you'd just be incurring unrequited expense if you upgraded your card now since you don't game.

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finger51

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Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 5:41 pm

Joined: Tue Mar 22, 2005 11:56 am

Posts: 110

Location: San Francisco

Thanks for the input folks! Those Dell 24" screens are mighty tempting...

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