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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 12:08 pm 
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Ok, I'm a linux n00b. bear with me.

I've got an hp small form factor box, and I believe the on-board nic is:

Integrated Broadcom NetXtreme Gigabit Ethernet
Intel Pro 1000 MT Gigabit NIC low profile PCI

I ran through the knoppmyth install and it rebooted ok. I've got the network cable connected to the card. After reboot, the initial setup says No compatible network card found.

I checked for drivers for linux on HP's site, and the broadcom site has linux drivers for only their "NetXtreme BCM57xx series NICs, and BCM4401 based Ethernet products", but I don't know if those drivers will work for my onboard card. the broadcom site keeps trying to send me back to HP's site, and they seem to be in bed with MS (no drivers for anything un-windows).

Anyone know if I will even be able to find drivers for this nic?
Once I find the drivers, will I have to install them after going through the initial knoppmyth setup, or is there someway to get the drivers involved during the auto-install?

Still learning, bear with me :)

Also: for a pentium 4, should I be choosing the i586 or i686 setup?


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 12:28 pm 
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I've got a MSI K8N Neo4-F NVIDIA Socket 939 ATX Motherboard (little brother of the Dragon reference MoBo, but same chipset) and have weird problems with the onboard ethernet. When it gets to the network initialization at bootup it says "network unreachable". But if I issue a PUMP command later, after it's booted and the front-end has started, it's fine.
I corrected by throwing in another NIC and disabling the one onboard. It worked without having to install anything further.
This is R5A26.

I had a hunch that whatever the problem was had corrected itself, so I took the new nic out to free up a slot, but now I'll have to put it back in.

Somehow, the onboard ethernet just isn't ready when the network initializes. If I knew more about Linux, I'd find a way to move that further back in the bootup. I tried bootmisc.sh (calling pump) but that didn't help either.

Interestingly, the initial install is ok. It can find the network. But it fails on the first reboot.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 12:31 pm 
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On a whim, from reading other posts on this board, I tried logging in as root and running netcardconfig. It presented the same screen I saw during setup that said "No supported network card found"...

I'm still assuming that my problem is the driver for the NIC. I think i've found and downloaded the NIC driver for linux using my windows PC, and I copied it to a floppy disk.

Unfortunately, being a linux n00b, I am unsure how to get it from the floppy to the right place on my linux box. What are the steps for installing a driver from a floppy?


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 4:02 pm 
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"Integrated Broadcom NetXtreme Gigabit Ethernet
Intel Pro 1000 MT Gigabit NIC low profile PCI "

Those are two different nics you've listed?

If its the broadcom one i think its the bcm5700 module you need to load

If its the intel one i think its the e1000 module.

both are in the 2.6 kernel already


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 11:10 pm 
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mad_paddler wrote:
both are in the 2.6 kernel already
If they were both in the kernel, why wouldn't knoppmyth find it? Could it be a config issue?


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 11:48 pm 
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probably because even though the kernel in knoppmyth is pretty recent the hardware detection is getting a bit dated. This is being addressed in the newer development (not available to the general public yet) releases. So if you load the module manually it should still work it's just that the hardware detection didn't find and load them automatically for you.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 2:50 am 
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Xsecrets wrote:
...So if you load the module manually it should still work it's just that the hardware detection didn't find and load them automatically for you.


Oh, lovely. I don't know how to do that.

I have determined that the onboard lan is definately the broadcom, and not the intel (I had gathered the above data from HP's website, didn't notice it was 2 separate card options).

So, how do I load the bcm5700 module ? what are the steps to do it? I did burn a CDr with the broadcom drivers, so I could install them if they aren't really already there...


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 2:57 am 
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Ok, u shouldn't need the CD, all you need to do is open an X-Term, su to root, and run:

modprobe bcm5700

then try netcardconfig :)

If it works, edit /etc/modules and add in a line saying bcm5700. That will make it load the module on each boot.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 12:53 pm 
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I did some exploring while I was away from my linux box... This page seems extremely useful: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Ethernet-HOWTO.html#toc2


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 9:44 pm 
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Ok, I've gotten past this problem. I managed to get it to install the driver from what I downloaded, and I've managed to get it into the startup. I've even gotten it to download data from zap2it, so this issue is [Resolved!]


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