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PostPosted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 10:00 pm 
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Hello all. I'm setting up an old IBM NetVista 6830-r2u as a master backend. I have it loaded with a 40gb master IDE drive(to run the os on), and a 500gb sata drive that I want to use for the tapings, and I also want to be able to access that from windows pc's on my gigabit network. First off, how do i set up knoppmyth to use the sata drive for the video storage, and second, how do i share that drive over the network?


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 7:30 pm 
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Hi,
Don't know much about the IBM machine and am to lazy to look it up. Your reference to "old" may be a different perspective than mine :) Assuming at least a 400 mhz & 256 meg of memory, it should be fine with a x50 tuner card.

I would first just do an auto install to the 40 gig, get everything setup, tweaked and playing smoothly. Don't even worry about the 500 sata for a couple of days.


To start samba do as root:
echo "start up samba"
/etc/init.d/samba start && update-rc.d samba defaults
and you should be able to login via explorer

Then you will probably want to activate webmin so that you can fine tweak the setups. Be advised that it is not for the faint of heart and you can do a lot of damage to your installed system.

When you are ready to move on, check back in for the big drive setup. You should not loose anything so don't worry if you have a couple of recordings collected by then.

Mike


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Well, it's basically got a Pentium 3 coppermine core with 256meg of ram.
It has an adaptec sataconnect card to hook up the sata hard drive.
The tuner is a PCHDTV model HD-5500.

My problem now is that setting up knoppmyth hangs on bootup at setting default volumes.... based on the other entries in the forums, it's because i'm using the HD-5500 with the built on intel sound chip. (AC'97) Lovely.


Before, i had installed mythtv without the capture card installed, to prepare for what i was getting into. now it does not load when i'm attempting to reinstall. :(


Hmmm...



mjl wrote:
Hi,
Don't know much about the IBM machine and am to lazy to look it up. Your reference to "old" may be a different perspective than mine :) Assuming at least a 400 mhz & 256 meg of memory, it should be fine with a x50 tuner card.

I would first just do an auto install to the 40 gig, get everything setup, tweaked and playing smoothly. Don't even worry about the 500 sata for a couple of days.


To start samba do as root:
echo "start up samba"
/etc/init.d/samba start && update-rc.d samba defaults
and you should be able to login via explorer

Then you will probably want to activate webmin so that you can fine tweak the setups. Be advised that it is not for the faint of heart and you can do a lot of damage to your installed system.

When you are ready to move on, check back in for the big drive setup. You should not loose anything so don't worry if you have a couple of recordings collected by then.

Mike


Last edited by LtSiver on Thu Sep 07, 2006 10:01 pm, edited 1 time in total.


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That combination really isn't going to fly. You really need more horsepower for HDTV.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 6:20 am 
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Hi,
The Coppermine were something like 350 ~ 400 mhz? With a pvr350 you should be able have acceptable record / playback performance and if just as a backend server then any x50 should work to capture. There will be slight delays on menu selections because it goes at "walking pace" instead of a "running pace", but it gets there :)

The R5C7 or the R5A series should work fine with standard tv.

HD takes a lot more "horse" power although most of it is needed for playback. I had an almost useable hd system with a ~1.5 ghz, once. Check at http://mythic.tv for some guidence as Human has done a lot of reseach to make his product and he shares the information! Just cpu speed is not the only requirement.

Mike


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 7:03 am 
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tjc wrote:
That combination really isn't going to fly. You really need more horsepower for HDTV.


Actually, to run a myth backend, I don't. I won't be recording high def streams... i bought the card because it supported recording from unencrypted digital channels.. though i'm not sure i'll be able to get that to work.
I've switched to trying to use ubuntu instead of knoppmyth, since knoppmyth does not support the AC'97 with the HD-5500 tuner card. I'm attempting ubuntu server, but i'm having some problems with that, since the packages for ubuntu seem to be missing from the servers.....


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Actually this coppermine is a 930 mhz. This machine is going to be a backend only, if i ever get it working.

mjl wrote:
Hi,
The Coppermine were something like 350 ~ 400 mhz? With a pvr350 you should be able have acceptable record / playback performance and if just as a backend server then any x50 should work to capture. There will be slight delays on menu selections because it goes at "walking pace" instead of a "running pace", but it gets there :)

The R5C7 or the R5A series should work fine with standard tv.

HD takes a lot more "horse" power although most of it is needed for playback. I had an almost useable hd system with a ~1.5 ghz, once. Check at http://mythic.tv for some guidence as Human has done a lot of reseach to make his product and he shares the information! Just cpu speed is not the only requirement.

Mike


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 7:19 am 
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Hi LtSiver,

a 930 mhz will work fine, just not for hd. I would suggest trying the R5C7 auto install as a beginner.

Enjoy
Mike


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Well, unfortunately there have been threads that statet hat r5c7 has the same problems with the ac'97 sound and many tuner cards, including mine. I'm looking at using myth with other operating systems, starting with ubuntu, but the documentation on them is pretty innaccurate. :(


mjl wrote:
Hi LtSiver,

a 930 mhz will work fine, just not for hd. I would suggest trying the R5C7 auto install as a beginner.

Enjoy
Mike


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Why not just try it as mjl suggests? The basic install and configuration process takes less than an hour. Most of us are using AC'97 audio including me, so that's not a big barrier. If it doesn't work then you can start looking for harder solutions.


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hmm... Which Kernel is in that version? The main reason I haven't tried the suggestion is that the documentation that came with the capture card states that kernels before 2.6.18 don't have the driver built into the kernel.
I've kept it in mind, but for the past few days I haven't had any time to put into loading the software on the box yet. (next monday i will though)

tjc wrote:
Why not just try it as mjl suggests? The basic install and configuration process takes less than an hour. Most of us are using AC'97 audio including me, so that's not a big barrier. If it doesn't work then you can start looking for harder solutions.


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If by the capture card you mean the HD5500, I believe that Cecil already includes the necessary drivers. Kind of the point of a dedicated distribution to include that kind of stuff after all.


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Sweet. I'll attempt that next when i get a couple of hours to spare, and see if it works. How much of a challenge is it to update r5c7 to myth 0.19?

tjc wrote:
If by the capture card you mean the HD5500, I believe that Cecil already includes the necessary drivers. Kind of the point of a dedicated distribution to include that kind of stuff after all.


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Both R5C7 and R5D1 use a version of 0.19 plus fixes (R5D1 uses release-0-19-fixes @ change set 10505) from the 0.19.1 SVN branch.


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Thanks for all your help. :) I see you're quite the active user in here. In case no one else says this, Thank you for helping everyone in here!


tjc wrote:
Both R5C7 and R5D1 use a version of 0.19 plus fixes (R5D1 uses release-0-19-fixes @ change set 10505) from the 0.19.1 SVN branch.


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