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Author:  nanuuk [ Thu Jan 11, 2007 12:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Unsucessful installation(s)

Linux noobe, last Solaris experience over 10+yrs ago.....just to set things straight...

System Config:
Asus A7V266-E w/AMD Athlon 1600+ XP
1 GB Kingston PC2100 DDR
hda - Prim. mast. 20GB W.D.
hdb - Prim. slave TDK DVDRW0404N
hdc - Sec. mast. 80GB Maxtor
Video mon. - ATI Radeon 7500
Vid. capture - ATI Wonder Pro
Generic 1394 & USB
D-Link 10/100 NIC

Attempted 2 auto-installs:
During CD boot had 1 error:
Starting vdev Hot-Plug Hardware Detection - Failed
After installation completed, removed CD and rebooted....
After POST system just hung....no HD activity

Deleted all partitions and attempted to do a Manual Install
When asked to partition hda, received the following error msg:
Opened disk read-only - you have no permission to write: hit return
and got Fatal Error: Cannot get disk size

BIOS looks good and devices show proper during POST/boot

Any advice would be welcome..

TIA

Author:  nanuuk [ Thu Jan 11, 2007 12:38 pm ]
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Sorry...totally lamed on the most important piece of info:
Burned ISO image of R5E50

Author:  psicard [ Thu Jan 11, 2007 1:04 pm ]
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Did you check the MD5sum?

Did you install using the testcd option?

Did you remove any extraneous USB/firewire stuff (i.e. anything besides keyboard and mouse)?

Author:  nanuuk [ Thu Jan 11, 2007 1:20 pm ]
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psicard - thanks for the reply...

Yeah, did the CDTEST and chkd the checksum....all good...
thought about the USB and disabled that in BIOS along with the serial/parallel ports....I'll take out the firewire card now and see what that does

Author:  nanuuk [ Thu Jan 11, 2007 3:43 pm ]
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Ok...
Removed firewire card, disabled USB via bios, disabled most i/o ports except mouse/keyboard

Strange that udev still finds firewire(not native on motherboard) and USB(although diabled)

Still no luck with auto-install and same problem with manual install
Might try burning a previous version to see where that gets me

Author:  bruce_s01 [ Thu Jan 11, 2007 7:54 pm ]
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How far did the boot up get? Did you see LILO quickly appear, did it just stop there? Or did it continue past this then just stop?

Bruce S.

Author:  nanuuk [ Thu Jan 11, 2007 8:08 pm ]
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Hi Bruce,
The boot only got as far as the POST screen and list of IRQ's....nothing after that....just a quick HD activity but then nothing.....

Author:  mjl [ Thu Jan 11, 2007 8:21 pm ]
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Hi,

Sounds a little like the jumper on the drive isn't set for master, cable isn't on first ide port, boot flag not toggled on.. Any or one gives issue simular.

Mike

Author:  tjc [ Thu Jan 11, 2007 8:25 pm ]
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What Mike said. See here for more details. http://www.knoppmythwiki.org/index.php?page=WillNotBootAfterInstall

Author:  nanuuk [ Thu Jan 11, 2007 8:37 pm ]
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Actually I removed both HD's and both CD/DVD's and reconfigured to match the "pamphlet"
hda (W.D. 20GB)was set to Master on Primary channel, first connector on cable
no Slave on Primary channel - removed CDrom drive
hdb (Max. 80GB) was set to Master on Secondary channel, first connector
hdc (TDK DVD R/W) was set to Slave on secondary channel

BIOS reports same.

This was just a Win2K Advanced Server that I decommisioned.....so I know the hardware is good

Author:  nanuuk [ Thu Jan 11, 2007 9:08 pm ]
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gggggrrrrr......Cable Select.....
It's now up....damn.....I know I checked that too....sheesh.....
Thanks all!!

Author:  nanuuk [ Fri Jan 12, 2007 2:42 pm ]
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Final follow-up post - Lessons Learned
1st. thank tjc for the wiki link...that lead me down a path where I learned a good deal of info....

!st. Lesson Learned -
Just because a particular hardware configuration worked for one O/S doesn't mean it will work for another O/S!!!!
The hw config listed in my first post worked perfectly fine for 4 yrs, 2 yrs as Win XP Pro and 2 yrs. as Win2K Avanced Server. The 2 harddrives we jumpered Master (WD 20GB) and Slave (Max 80GB) and were both on the primary channel. Using this config I was not able to successfully install Knoppmyth....
To get a good install I had to jumper the WD to Cable Select AND I had to physically remove the maxtor (more on that in a sec.)
After the install the system booted with Lilo and on I went to the config...

No matter what jumpering I used on the Maxtor (prim. slave, sec. master or sec. slave) I could not get a successful installation!
Strangely enough, after getting it to install on the WD, I removed the drive and jumpered it to Master and then reinstalled the Maxtor and jumpered it to Slave...both on the primary channel....and the system booted up fine!!

2nd. Lesson Learned -
Don't believe your BIOS settings!
Having set in BIOS Plug-N-Play O/S = No... I noticed during bootup that the BIOS report after POST showed Plug-N-Play Initialized!!! I did a BIOS upgrade last night and it still showed the same thing. This is why I had to physically remove the Max. drive....even if I removed the drive via BIOS, udev would still find it....and my USB's too!!!

I still don't know why udev found firewire after the card was removed from the system....the MB doesn't have native firewire support...

Sorry for the long post...but hopefully someone else might find this useful.

Cheers

Author:  tjc [ Fri Jan 12, 2007 7:18 pm ]
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Don't feel too bad, you wouldn't believe the hardware problems I had with my first KM box. It took a BIOS upgrade which changed some default settings before my box was stable the first time. Then when adding the 2nd drive I managed to get a tiny crumb of aluminum in one of my memory slots which led to more intermitent flakiness. I literally had to tear the whole machine apart to find that one.

Author:  nanuuk [ Fri Jan 12, 2007 7:35 pm ]
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Hi tjc....ah it's all part of the fun :-) now I just have to dig up some hd's that would be compatible...I have a parts place not too far from me and for < $50 I can pick up another WD or Maxtor drive...I think having the same manufacturer would at least help....I really like the idea behind the software and I'm looking forward to getting something built that works....and maybe learning some Linux on the way :-o

Author:  mjl [ Fri Jan 12, 2007 8:41 pm ]
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Hi,


Keep working / playing with KnoppMyth and you will have both your wishes satisfied!

Have a great day :)
Mike

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