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PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2004 4:54 pm 
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I'm using knoppmyth, and after what appeared to be a successful install, the front end hangs while loading. During the screen that says, "Pre-scaling theme images," it hangs at 99%, then eventually quits with no error message. Unfortunately, I'm a little new, and don't know where to start!

Any suggestions?


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2004 6:01 pm 
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Hardware details.
More information.
Does the system lock or just MythTV?
What is in the backend log?
If the system doesn't lock, start mythfrontend from an xterm.

You're not giving us much to go on...

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If I remember correctly, the scaling does "hang" close to the end, but it is just very non-linear. The reason it didn't give you an error message is because it finished rescaling the images, i.e. no error was encountered. I remember rescaling my images numerous times while configuring the optimum size for my UI and it would take a loooong time at 98 or 99%.

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 Post subject: Sorry, here's more info!
PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2004 7:18 pm 
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Sorry I wasn't very helpful. I've got a Piv 800mhz with 384MB RAM. It's a Wincast TV Card, and a 17" Monitor. Am I missing more info?

I downloaded the knoppmyth 3 days ago, so it should be current. And I'd love to check the backend log....where is it?

Thanks!


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2004 10:22 pm 
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Type of motherboard, chipset on the motherboard, ... other hardware...


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Wow, Sorry, I'm so new with this! OK, let's see how this does....

Intel Motherboard
PIII 866 (sorry, I thought it was PIV)
384 MB Ram, which is 1 128MB stick, and 1 256 MB stick, both PC 133
Western Digital 7200rpm, 8GB drive (about to add a second video drive)
HItachi DVD ROM
Wincast TV card (828 chipset)


am I getting closer?

FWIW, I played around with it, and keep getting the error from the backend that it won't bind to the port, but if I shut it down and restart it, it seems to work.

Also, during startup, I see the error fly across the screen, "Apache couldn't detect a fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.0.0". Could that have something to do with it?


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The Apache error is nothing to worry about. The backend log is in /var/log/mythtv/

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And that machine is a bit under powered without a tuner card that does hardware encoding. It's certainly very short on disk space... See this link for the CPU requirements:

http://knoppmythwiki.homelinux.org/faq/index.php?action=artikel&cat=6&id=14&artlang=en


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yeah, I know it's all underpowered, etc. For now, I'm using it to learn, then make a case for getting rid of our DishPVR's (gotta convince the wife)!

Also, I'm not really planning on using this for live tv...I'd like to be able to record shows, then watch later. Will it work ok for this?


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You might be able to get something working. I don't know enough about the software decoder CPU load to say what exactly, maybe low res capture, but certainly not enough to be considered a convincing proof of concept.

Using the box to watch live TV is a major selling point. No more missing part of the action because of a phone call, just hit pause and resume when you're ready to. No more waiting for a commercial to go to the bathroom and then missing something because you took too long. No more watching commercials when you don't want to, just pause, do something else for a few minutes and come back a little later to skip it. No more, "what the heck just happened?", just skip backwards and see it again.


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ijonb wrote:
Also, I'm not really planning on using this for live tv...I'd like to be able to record shows, then watch later. Will it work ok for this?
It should.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 04, 2004 12:09 am 
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In the backend log, I seem to be getting a few errors:

Settings: error creating /.qt
Settings: Sync: filename is null/empty
Settings: error creating /.qt
Settings: Sync: filename is null/empty

(yes, it appears twice)

Any suggestions?


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That error is normal. Perhaps you can answer the rest of the questions I asked in my first reply...

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I just killed the backend, then restarted it, and it works!!! I'm not sure what's up with the error, but it seems as long as I kill everything then manually restart it, it works.

Watching live tv isn't too bad, even on that low end hardware, however it does look like I have some audio syncing issues, but I can worry about that later! I think I've got it close enough to convince my wife that we need to toss the PVR to the curb.


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cesman wrote:
That error is normal. Perhaps you can answer the rest of the questions I asked in my first reply...


sorry, did you mean hardware details?

Am I missing something from this?
Intel Motherboard
PIII 866 (sorry, I thought it was PIV)
384 MB Ram, which is 1 128MB stick, and 1 256 MB stick, both PC 133
Western Digital 7200rpm, 8GB drive (about to add a second video drive)
HItachi DVD ROM
Wincast TV card (828 chipset)


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