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Author:  Sycophant [ Thu Jul 14, 2005 6:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Problems with new R5A16 install
Hi,

I've tried to install KnoppMyth on three previous occasions with varying success.

This time I having a few difficulties which I am confused about.

1) BTTV card setup - I have a PixelView PlayTV card (card=72 tuner=5) which does work in Linux, but I can't get the settings to work in KnoppMyth - I have tried adding "options card=72 tuner=2" to /etc/mythtv/modules/bttv and bttv0, then running update-modules, but the info just isn't getting included in the /etc/modules.conf, so it's not setting up correctly. From a root prompt I can "rmmod bttv" and then "modprobe bttv card=72 tuner=2" which is confirming my card is working.

2) Being in NZ - In Myth-setup I can add my card, then I come to adding a Video Source - but there is none for NZ. Now I should theoretically be able to manually download an XMLTV source and run mythfilldatabase from the command line, but I assume I still need to have a Video Source defined -- what should I use?

3) Mythbackend issues - Mythweb and the frontend are unable to connect to the backend.. If I use "/etc/init.d/myth-backend stop" and then manually restart it, I get this output:
Code:
sh-3.00$ mythbackend
2005-07-16 00:37:30.984 New DB connection, total: 1
Running as a slave backend.
2005-07-16 00:37:31.014 New DB connection, total: 2
2005-07-16 00:37:31.040 Channel(/dev/video0): CheckChannel failed. Please verify channel "3" in the "setup" Channel Editor.
2005-07-16 00:37:31.052 mythbackend version: 0.18.1.20050510-1 www.mythtv.org
2005-07-16 00:37:31.053 Enabled verbose msgs : important general
2005-07-16 00:37:31.055 New DB connection, total: 3
2005-07-16 00:37:32.066 Connecting to master server: 127.0.0.1:6543
2005-07-16 00:37:32.075 Connected successfully


But I am still unable to connect to it properly it would seem.

I suspect issues 2 and 3 stem from having to sidestep to get EPG data in NZ - and I have looked at NZMythConfig on the KnoppMythWiki, but it's still not really that helpful... So if anyone has any further insight, I could use it. And I'd really like to know why my configurations in /etc/mythtv/modules/ aren't getting in?

I'll keep pottering away, but I figured I should post while I struggled with this.

The hardware is a Duron 1300, 256MB, 80GB, GeForce FX5600 and Pixelview PlayTV Pro (PV-BT878-P+ Rev 9F) -- (a little on the scrawny side, I know, but I think it wiill pull through)
Author:  Sycophant [ Thu Jul 14, 2005 8:43 pm ]
Post subject:  Progress...?
Right, after further fiddling with the EPG data and so on, I have made progress.

I now have an XMLTV source that works.
I have the channels added.
The EPG and MythWeb are working.

However, I cannot watch TV -- this is the error I get from Mythbackend when I try:
Code:
2005-07-15 13:02:58.441 Channel(/dev/video0): CheckChannel failed. Please verify channel "" in the "setup" Channel Editor.
Channel: '' was not found in the database.
Most likely, the default channel set for this input (1 Television ) in setup is wrong
Couldn't find any channels in the database, please make sure
your inputs are associated properly with your cards.
2005-07-15 13:02:58.445 Channel(/dev/video0): CheckChannel failed. Please verify channel "69" in the "setup" Channel Editor.
2005-07-15 13:02:58.448 Channel(/dev/video0): CheckChannel failed. Please verify channel "68" in the "setup" Channel Editor.
2005-07-15 13:02:58.451 Channel(/dev/video0): CheckChannel failed. Please verify channel "67" in the "setup" Channel Editor.

and that carries on to channel 1.

Now as far as I can tell, I do have properly configured channel and input information.

I created a video source, which I set to Australia, and just configured it to collect no channel data at all. Instead I use a manual process to update the database.
Author:  nigelpearson [ Sun Jul 17, 2005 7:01 am ]
Post subject: 
Thats a lot of errors listed there.

I would check that the card is linked to the video source (which is done in button 4 of mythtv-setup), and that the starting channel is appropriate.

In fact, I would re-run mythtv-setup, clear everything (yes to both start questions), and set it up from scratch!
Author:  Sycophant [ Sun Jul 17, 2005 4:39 pm ]
Post subject: 
nigelpearson wrote:
Thats a lot of errors listed there.

I would check that the card is linked to the video source (which is done in button 4 of mythtv-setup), and that the starting channel is appropriate.

In fact, I would re-run mythtv-setup, clear everything (yes to both start questions), and set it up from scratch!


I've been through that process (with deleting at various times only the channels, only the card data and both). Part of my problem, I feel, is that I can't really add a legitimate 'video source' as there is no New Zealand option there - whatever I add as a video source has to be bogus, and ideally have no channels (previously I have been selection Australia and simply adding no channels) - I then have to use manually grabbed NZ XMLTV data, and run mythfilldatabase --manual on the file to add the channels present in the listings.

I've searched and read all the threads about the checkchannel thing - and still haven't found a satisfactory answer - some people have suggest it's and ivtv issues, but as I am running a BTTV card, I can't see how that would be the case for me.

I will continue fiddling with it.
Author:  millst [ Sun Jul 17, 2005 6:08 pm ]
Post subject:  problems in nz
hi dylan,

can't help you with your video card problems unfortunately, i just threw my card in and it went first time with no configuration required.

are you using a sky decoder or are you 'tuning in'.
unfortunately i have no experience of tuning in as i'm coming in off composite outputs from the sky decoder so again it just worked first time.

DON'T select a country source from mythtv-setup if you are in New Zealand.
turn off the settings to have mythtv running mythfilldatabase on its own (run it manually from scripts).

basically you don't want myth to do any of the filldatabase stuff itself or it will be likely to break everything.

grab the latest file from hairygeek then run..

mythfilldatabase --file 1 -1 latest.xml --manual

answer all the questions.

that should load all your channels in,

after that you will probably have to run mythtv-setup and asign each channel manually to the card (option 4 i think).
make sure you don't clear the settings after you have done this or no channels will appear.

then just setup a shell script with this in it...

wget http://hairy.geek.nz/epg/latest.xml.gz
gzip -d latest.xml.gz
mythfilldatabase --file 1 -1 latest.xml --update

and use cron to run it once a day (after 6am)

hope this helps.

Cheers
Toby
Author:  Sycophant [ Sun Jul 17, 2005 10:18 pm ]
Post subject:  Progress
Right...

In the end, I have found that if I delete everything, create new card and input data, and add a "Video Source" with null data (I basically add an Australian one, but in the config choose not to get data for any channel) and then manually add all the channels, then I can tune them okay.

Then all I need to do is add the XMLTV IDs for each channel manually, and use mythfilldatabase to update the EPG data with my manually retreived XMLTV data.

It seems that using mythfilldatabase --manula to detect and setup the channels from the XMLTV data was creating database entries that were not working - even if I created a Video Source manually in myth-setup first.

So that is most things working now...

However...

1) My card/tuner settings, as defined in /etc/mythtv/modules/bttv0 still don't appear to be propigating to modules.conf (even after update-modules) -- I can't see why this should be. So I am still having to manually modprobe with the right settings.

2) Does anyone know how it might be possible to alter the myth-setup options to add New Zealand as a datasource -- I can get a working tv_grab_nz script - so it might be possible to actually tweak it up to work properly though the myth-setup program.
Author:  nigelpearson [ Mon Jul 18, 2005 9:17 pm ]
Post subject: 
Adding tv_grab_nz requires editing the MythTV source and rebuilding (sadly, it is not in a config file). For now, just install it as tv_grab_au and pretend that, in mythtv-setup, Australia is New Zealand!

I will talk to the other developers about add it into the source (along with tv_grab_au_ice).
Author:  Greg Frost [ Mon Jul 18, 2005 10:04 pm ]
Post subject: 
nigelpearson wrote:
and pretend that, ..., Australia is New Zealand!
That's what all the New Zealanders living in Australia do anyway. :lol:
Author:  Sycophant [ Tue Jul 19, 2005 5:42 pm ]
Post subject: 
nigelpearson wrote:
Adding tv_grab_nz requires editing the MythTV source and rebuilding (sadly, it is not in a config file). For now, just install it as tv_grab_au and pretend that, in mythtv-setup, Australia is New Zealand!

I will talk to the other developers about add it into the source (along with tv_grab_au_ice).


The grab file I am referring to, incidentally, is from Mr. Geek (http://mr.geek.nz/epg/) -- I am not sure entirely how reliable it may be in the long term - I guess it would be advisable to talk to it's creator to ensure it's suitabilty before using it.
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