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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 4:15 am 
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I am currently in the middle of testing HD on second mythbox. Well tonight I went and scanned Comcast's network for channels. I got some interesting data for the digital channels.

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E3_1 WB


Thats what I got for the WBBMDT out of Chicago. It looks like that Comcast is starting to put some channel data in with the channels.

I am wondering if anyone else has seen this?


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 7:01 am 
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I haven't done a channel scan recently, but I've read that they have been making some changes lately. They've started encrypting all the HD channels, except the OTA rebroadcasts. For a while I was able to tune ESPN, TNT, and Disc HD through QAM, but now they're encrypted. Maybe they finally figured out how to include the station ids in the streams.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 7:29 am 
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That sucks that they encrypted those channels I watch discovery a lot. Oh well I haven't had the chance to go throught all the channels to see what I have in my area yet.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 9:05 am 
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I use Comcast in the California bay area. I get the station ID info for 2 of the digital channels in my area, out of a total of ~50 digital channels.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 6:53 pm 
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cameraready wrote:
I haven't done a channel scan recently, but I've read that they have been making some changes lately. They've started encrypting all the HD channels, except the OTA rebroadcasts. For a while I was able to tune ESPN, TNT, and Disc HD through QAM, but now they're encrypted. Maybe they finally figured out how to include the station ids in the streams.


If this is true, then it foils my dastardly plan to install an HDHomeRun. So much for progress...:evil:

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 6:14 pm 
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Isn't the answer going to be a tuner that supports the use of a cablecard? That way you can obtain the cablecard from your local service provider and then successfully tune all the premium channels you've subscribed to.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 6:36 pm 
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marc.aronson wrote:
Isn't the answer going to be a tuner that supports the use of a cablecard?
Marc


Never gonna happen for linux unfortunately.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 3:29 am 
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ATI is the one that is releasing that tuner. We all know how bad ATI is at providing linux driver support. Maybe we will get lucky and someone like air2pc will create one. Right now I am not holding my breath.

What I really don't like is the fact that Comcast is encrypting channels that are included in standard cable package. I for one would like to have all 75 channels that I get + HD channels unencyrpted.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 3:56 am 
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azrael wrote:
ATI is the one that is releasing that tuner. We all know how bad ATI is at providing linux driver support. Maybe we will get lucky and someone like air2pc will create one.


It's not a function of bad Linux support or not. It's that the cable companies will only allow their encrypted recordings to be put onto a system that is locked down, so their customers can't get those recordings off the system. That's why the ATI tuner with Cable Card support will only work on Vista, and only on pre-built pre-certified ("OCUR-enabled") systems.

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070109-8576.html


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 6:05 am 
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I guess they won't be selling too many of those to PVR hobbists.


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Given where the industry is going, I think it would be in our best interests if mythtv actually supported a way to honor the various protection flags. I realize that this is not a popular view, but my gut-check is that the cable companies will continue to add the legitimate IP-protection mechanisms they feel are necessary to protect their revenue streams.

Of course, given the open-source nature of mythtv, perhaps that is not doable in a way that would pass certificaiton, since anyone could modify the sources to remove the protection.

It will be interesting to see how this evolves...

Marc


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I think the biggest hurdle is they currently require certification of the actual hardware by CableLabs. And it costs money, like at least $10,000, I think more like $50,000. So unless we all agree to run the exact same hardware and find a way for linux to work with it there is no way possible.

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