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PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 3:04 am 
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Ok, I've been trying at this for too long tonight.
I'm gonna post and maybe someone will leave me a nugget of wisdom for the morning.

My Mythbox is based on a Chaintech 7NIF2 motherboard(GeForce 4 based onboard video), using a PVR 250 to capture video. I have an athalon 2000 running R5. I just got a Samsung HL-R5078W DLP HDTV, which has an VGA input. According to the manual, the VGA input can accept up to 1920 x 1080 signal, which is the native resolution of my TV. I went out and found modelines posted online for another model in the same line. I am confident that these will work on my TV because the user manual has both of the models listed.
Code:
Section "Monitor"
        Identifier      "Monitor0"
        Option  "DPMS"  "true"
#       HorizSync    28.0 - 78.0 # Warning: This may fry very old Monitors
#       HorizSync    28.0 - 96.0 # Warning: This may fry old Monitors
        HorizSync    30.0 - 50.0
#       VertRefresh  50.0 - 75.0 # Very conservative. May flicker.
#       VertRefresh  50.0 - 62.0 # Extreme conservative. Will flicker. TFT default.
        VertRefresh  60.0

## Samsung HL-R5678W DLP (in 1920x1080p [over VGA input]), all resolutions without -XX are 60Hz
        ModeLine "1920x1200" 153.918 1920 1984 2016 2080 1200 1203 1209 1235 +hsync -vsync
        ModeLine "1920x1080" 138.407 1920 1984 2016 2096 1080 1082 1087 1111 +hsync -vsync
        ModeLine "1600x1200" 162.270 1600 1672 1864 2160 1200 1201 1204 1250 +hsync +vsync
        ModeLine "1600x1024" 136.617 1600 1712 1880 2144 1024 1025 1028 1060 -hsync +vsync
        ModeLine "1280x1024" 107.981 1280 1344 1456 1688 1024 1025 1028 1066 +hsync +vsync
        ModeLine "1280x1024-70" 128.862 1280 1384 1520 1728 1024 1025 1028 1066 -hsync +vsync
        ModeLine "1280x1024-72" 133.038 1280 1384 1520 1728 1024 1025 1028 1067 -hsync +vsync
        ModeLine "1280x1024-75" 135.126 1280 1312 1456 1688 1024 1025 1028 1066 +hsync +vsync
        ModeLine "1280x960" 107.981 1280 1392 1504 1800 960 965 968 1000 +hsync +vsync
        ModeLine "1280x768" 79.464 1280 1360 1488 1664 768 771 778 798 -hsync +vsync
        ModeLine "1280x768-70" 95.055 1280 1368 1504 1696 768 769 772 800 -hsync +vsync
        ModeLine "1280x768-72" 97.839 1280 1368 1504 1696 768 769 772 801 -hsync +vsync
        ModeLine "1280x768-75" 102.271 1280 1376 1504 1696 768 771 778 805 -hsync +vsync
        ModeLine "1280x720" 74.453 1280 1448 1584 1696 720 721 724 746 -hsync +vsync
        ModeLine "1152x864" 107.981 1152 1232 1360 1616 864 865 868 900 +hsync +vsync
        ModeLine "1024x768" 74.871 1024 1064 1200 1344 768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync
        ModeLine "800x600-56" 36.018 800 848 920 1040 600 601 603 625 +hsync +vsync
        ModeLine "800x600" 40.025 800 856 984 1056 600 601 605 628 +hsync +vsync

EndSection


I have put that into my XF86Config-4 file, and included those resolutions in the screen section, as seen below.
Code:
Section "Screen"
        Identifier "Screen0"
        Device     "Card0"
        Monitor    "Monitor0"
        DefaultColorDepth 24
        SubSection "Display"
                Depth     1
                Modes "800x600" "640x480"
        EndSubSection
        SubSection "Display"
                Depth     4
                Modes "800x600" "640x480"
        EndSubSection
        SubSection "Display"
                Depth     8
                Modes "800x600" "640x480"
        EndSubSection
        SubSection "Display"
                Depth     15
                Modes "800x600" "640x480"
        EndSubSection
        SubSection "Display"
                Depth     16
                Modes "1920x1080" "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
        EndSubSection
        SubSection "Display"
                Depth     24
                Modes "1920x1080" "1280x1024" "1280x720" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
        EndSubSection
        SubSection "Display"
                Depth     32
                Modes "1920x1080" "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
        EndSubSection
EndSection


I reboot and ... nothing happens.
This is from my /var/log/XFree86.0.log
Code:
(II) NVIDIA(0): Not using mode "1920x1080" (no mode of this name)
(II) NVIDIA(0): Not using mode "1280x1024" (no mode of this name)
(II) NVIDIA(0): Not using mode "1280x720" (no mode of this name)
(II) NVIDIA(0): Not using mode "1024x768" (no mode of this name)
(II) NVIDIA(0): Not using mode "1280x768" (width too large for virtual size)
(**) NVIDIA(0): Validated modes for display device CRT-0:
(**) NVIDIA(0):      Mode "800x600": 40.0 MHz, 37.9 kHz, 60.4 Hz
(**) NVIDIA(0):      Default mode "640x480": 25.2 MHz, 31.5 kHz, 60.0 Hz
(**) NVIDIA(0):      Default mode "512x384": 32.5 MHz, 48.4 kHz, 60.0 Hz (D)
(**) NVIDIA(0):      Default mode "400x300": 20.0 MHz, 37.9 kHz, 60.3 Hz (D)
(**) NVIDIA(0):      Default mode "320x240": 12.6 MHz, 31.5 kHz, 60.1 Hz (D)
(II) NVIDIA(0): Virtual screen size determined to be 800 x 600


Also, once I get this set up will i be able to use the feature in the appearance menu to run my GUIs in Hi-res (1920x1080 hopefully) and my recordings in their native resolution (640 or 720 x 480)? The end goal of this is to be able to display my digital photos and artwork on my display at the highest resolution possible.

Can anyone tell me what gives?
I thought I had it all right.

Thanks,
Brian


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 12:23 pm 
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(II) NVIDIA(0): Not using mode "1920x1080" (no mode of this name)


there is one of the problems. either you don't have your modeline in the right place or there is some difference in the part between the "" think spaces or something like that, but for some reason they are not matching up.

Second thing I see is that you are using a 1080p modeline, and unless you have a very high end set (I'll admit I didn't look it up) most don't do 1080p just 1080i, which also if you use 1080i you don't have to mess with changing resolutions to get good NTSC playback.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 12:38 pm 
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I've been working on my Samsung 5067 setup for a bit now and am reasonably happy with the results. Here are my notes that I think you will find helpful. First, a summary of XVMC on vs. XVMC off.

XVMC off, using libmpeg2: Playback is very stable. CPU utilization averages 80% - 90% during HDTV playback. Insignificant CPU utilization on SDTV playback.

XVMC on, not using libmpeg2: CPU utilization averages 60% during HDTV playback. Stability varies based on content: Very stable playing SDTV; reasonably stable playing 1080i HDTV; very unstable playing 720p HDTV. The issue is the classic “OSD” problem with XVMC enabled.


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My configuration:

Knoppmyth version R5A30.2
System: Dell P4-2.4GHZ, 512MB ram
Video card: Powerspec FX5200
Tuner#1: Motorola DCT-6200 connected via firewire
Tuner#2: Hauppauge PVR-250
Video signal source: Comcast cable
Nvidia driver version: 6629
XVMC is turned off
Display: Samsung HLR-5067 50” DLP TV
Connection via VGA, accepts resolutions up to 1920x1080i
Key XF86Config-4 elements:
Code:
Section "Monitor"
        Identifier      "Monitor0"
        Option  "DPMS"  "false"
        Option  "IgnoreEDID"    "True"
        Option "XvmcUsesTextures" "True"
#
# First displaysize is for 1080i; second is for 720p
#
#       DisplaySize     624     351
         DisplaySize     416     234

   -----------
Also in “Section monitor”

        HorizSync 32 - 50
        VertRefresh 50 - 60
        ModeLine        "1920x1080" 74.184 1920 1960 2008 2200 1080 1084 1094 1124 interlace
        ModeLine        "1280x720" 74.176 1280 1320 1376 1652 720 722 728 750
        ModeLine    "1024x768" 65.000 1024 1048 1184 1344 768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync


   -----------
In “Section Screen”

        SubSection "Display"
                Depth     24
     Modes "1920x1080" "1280x720" "1024x768"
        EndSubSection



Key setup elements under “Utilities/Setup -> Setup->appearance”

1. Screen settings (2nd screen): Width=1232; height=704; x-offset=0; y-offset=8
2. Video mode settings (3rd screen): “Separate video modes for GUI and TV playback” is selected. The GUI display is configured as “GUI=1280x720; video output=1920x1080; rate=any; aspect=16x9”. I have filled in three rows under “Overrides for specific video sizes”. The first row is “X=1920; Y=1080; Output=1920x1080; Rate=any; aspect=default”. The second row is “X=1280; Y=720; Output=1280x720; rate=any; aspect=default”. The third row is “X=352; Y=480; Output=1024x768; rate=any; aspect=16x9”.

Key setup elements under “Utilities/Setup -> Setup->TV->Playback”

1. General Playback (1st screen): Deinterlace=off; use libmpeg2 for decoding=on; enable realtime priority threads=off; use video as timebase=off; extra audio buffering=on; aspect override=off.
2. Hardware decoding settings (5th screen): Use PVR-350=off; enable openGL vertical sync=off; use hardware XvMC mpeg decoding=off; use HW XVMC VLD decoding (via only)=off.

At the bottom of /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
Code:
/sbin/hdparm –c3 -d1 -u1 -M254 /dev/hda
/sbin/hdparm –c3 -d1 -u1 -M254 /dev/hdb


Finally, if you are going to use XVMC you should also set the OSD fadeout to zero. This is done by editing /usr/share/mythtv/themes/blueosd/osd.xml and changing
Code:
  <fadeaway>30</fadeaway>


To

Code:
  <fadeaway>0</fadeaway>



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Other factoids you may find helpful:

1. Ben Johnson’s post at http://mysettopbox.tv/phpBB2/viewtopic. ... vidia+6629 is an excellent source of useful information.
2. nvidia driver version 7174, 8174 & 8178: All 3 versions failed to work with any of the 1080i modelines I tried, including the modeline that works with 6629. All 3 versions used too much CPU to allow smooth 720p playback even with XVMC enabled on my machine. Others appear to have had more success with these driver versions – this is simply my experience.
3. Displaying 720p recordings under 1080i modeline with XVMC enabled results in hyper-jumpy, unwatchable video.
4. Displaying 1080i recordings under 720p modeline with XVMC enabled, while watchable, results in enough interlace/de-interlace artifacts to make it an “annoying” configuration to watch.
5. I was running with the disks in “quiet mode” (“-M128”) for a while, but I had quite a few problems with glitching during playback. I made several configuration changes, including turning off acoustic “quiet” mode and the problems appear to have reduced significantly. Of course, since I made multiple changes, I can’t be certain that “quiet mode” was the true root cause. At some point I will go back and run the experiment to assess if I can use “quiet mode” successfully while simultaneously recording two streams and playing back one.

Marc


Last edited by marc.aronson on Sat Feb 04, 2006 12:56 pm, edited 1 time in total.


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A bit more follow-up info that is probably important:

1. My Samsung is 1080i; I believe that yours is 1080p. This will have an impact.

2. I suspect that your Atalon 2000 is underpowered unless you can get stable XVMC results. If you find a way to stabalize XVMC when playing hidef material, please let me know how you did it, as I have not had luck on this front.

3. A good thread on your Saumsung 5068 set can be found at http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=559872&highlight=samsung

Marc


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First, thanks for all your help and quick responses guys. I really appreciate how helpful this community has been. That said, I still can't figure out what's wrong. I know these modelines will work with my TV because it has been verified by people luckier/smarter than I. The TV is 1080p, but I'm not worried about my processor being underpowered because I still am planning on switching to 800x600 for video play back. I'm gonna post my X86Config-4 file and my X86Free log below, so maybe someone can spot the culpirt, cause I know that I can't.



Code:
Section "ServerLayout"
   Identifier     "XFree86 Configured"
   Screen      0  "Screen0" 0 0
   InputDevice    "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
# PS/2 Mouse using /dev/input/mice in Kernel 2.6
# Serial Mouse not detected
        InputDevice    "USB Mouse" "CorePointer"
EndSection

Section "ServerFlags"
   Option "AllowMouseOpenFail"  "true"
   
EndSection

Section "Files"
   RgbPath      "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"
   ModulePath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules"
   FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc:unscaled"
   FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc"
   FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi:unscaled"
   FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi"
   FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi:unscaled"
   FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi"
   FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo"
   FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/PEX"
# Additional fonts: Locale, Gimp, TTF...
   FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic"
#   FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/latin2/75dpi"
#   FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/latin2/100dpi"
# True type and type1 fonts are also handled via xftlib, see /etc/X11/XftConfig!
   FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1"
   FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/ttf/western"
   FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/ttf/decoratives"
   FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/truetype"
   FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/truetype/openoffice"
   FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-bitstream-vera"
   FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/latex-ttf-fonts"
   FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/defoma/CID"
   FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/defoma/TrueType"
EndSection

Section "Module"
        Load  "ddc"  # ddc probing of monitor
#   Load  "GLcore"
   Load  "dbe"
#   Load  "dri"
   Load  "extmod"
   Load  "glx"
        Load  "bitmap" # bitmap-fonts
   Load  "speedo"
   Load  "type1"
   Load  "freetype"
   Load  "record"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
   Identifier  "Keyboard0"
   Driver      "keyboard"
        Option      "CoreKeyboard"
   Option "XkbRules" "xfree86"
   Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
   Option "XkbLayout" "us"

EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
   Identifier  "Serial Mouse"
   Driver      "mouse"
   Option      "Protocol" "Microsoft"
   Option      "Device" "/dev/ttyS0"
   Option      "Emulate3Buttons" "true"
   Option      "Emulate3Timeout" "70"
   Option       "SendCoreEvents"  "true"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
   Identifier  "PS/2 Mouse"
   Driver      "mouse"
   Option      "Protocol" "auto"
Option          "ZAxisMapping"          "4 5"
   Option      "Device" "/dev/psaux"
   Option      "Emulate3Buttons" "true"
   Option      "Emulate3Timeout" "70"
   Option       "SendCoreEvents"  "true"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
        Identifier      "USB Mouse"
        Driver          "mouse"
        Option          "Device"                "/dev/input/mice"
   Option      "SendCoreEvents"   "true"
        Option          "Protocol"              "IMPS/2"
        Option          "ZAxisMapping"          "4 5"
        Option          "Buttons"               "5"
EndSection

# Auto-generated by KNOPPIX mkxf86config

Section "Monitor"
   Identifier   "Monitor0"
   Option   "DPMS"   "true"
#   HorizSync    28.0 - 78.0 # Warning: This may fry very old Monitors
#   HorizSync    28.0 - 96.0 # Warning: This may fry old Monitors
   HorizSync    30.0 - 50.0
#   VertRefresh  50.0 - 75.0 # Very conservative. May flicker.
#   VertRefresh  50.0 - 62.0 # Extreme conservative. Will flicker. TFT default.
   VertRefresh  60.0

## Samsung HL-R5678W DLP (in 1920x1080p [over VGA input]), all resolutions without -XX are 60Hz
   ModeLine "1920x1200" 153.918 1920 1984 2016 2080 1200 1203 1209 1235 +hsync -vsync
   ModeLine "1920x1080" 138.407 1920 1984 2016 2096 1080 1082 1087 1111 +hsync -vsync
   ModeLine "1600x1200" 162.270 1600 1672 1864 2160 1200 1201 1204 1250 +hsync +vsync
   ModeLine "1600x1024" 136.617 1600 1712 1880 2144 1024 1025 1028 1060 -hsync +vsync
   ModeLine "1280x1024" 107.981 1280 1344 1456 1688 1024 1025 1028 1066 +hsync +vsync
   ModeLine "1280x1024-70" 128.862 1280 1384 1520 1728 1024 1025 1028 1066 -hsync +vsync
   ModeLine "1280x1024-72" 133.038 1280 1384 1520 1728 1024 1025 1028 1067 -hsync +vsync
   ModeLine "1280x1024-75" 135.126 1280 1312 1456 1688 1024 1025 1028 1066 +hsync +vsync
   ModeLine "1280x960" 107.981 1280 1392 1504 1800 960 965 968 1000 +hsync +vsync
   ModeLine "1280x768" 79.464 1280 1360 1488 1664 768 771 778 798 -hsync +vsync
   ModeLine "1280x768-70" 95.055 1280 1368 1504 1696 768 769 772 800 -hsync +vsync
   ModeLine "1280x768-72" 97.839 1280 1368 1504 1696 768 769 772 801 -hsync +vsync
   ModeLine "1280x768-75" 102.271 1280 1376 1504 1696 768 771 778 805 -hsync +vsync
   ModeLine "1280x720" 74.453 1280 1448 1584 1696 720 721 724 746 -hsync +vsync
   ModeLine "1152x864" 107.981 1152 1232 1360 1616 864 865 868 900 +hsync +vsync
   ModeLine "1024x768" 74.871 1024 1064 1200 1344 768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync
   ModeLine "800x600-56" 36.018 800 848 920 1040 600 601 603 625 +hsync +vsync
   ModeLine "800x600" 40.025 800 856 984 1056 600 601 605 628 +hsync +vsync

EndSection

Section "Device"
   ### Available Driver options are:-
# sw_cursor is needed for some ati and radeon cards
   #Option     "sw_cursor"
        #Option     "hw_cursor"
        #Option     "NoAccel"
        #Option     "ShowCache"
        #Option     "ShadowFB"
        #Option     "UseFBDev"
        #Option     "Rotate"
   Identifier  "Card0"
# The following line is auto-generated by KNOPPIX mkxf86config
   Driver      "nvidia"
   VendorName  "All"
   BoardName   "All"
#   BusID       "PCI:1:0:0"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
   Identifier "Screen0"
   Device     "Card0"
   Monitor    "Monitor0"
   DefaultColorDepth 24
   SubSection "Display"
      Depth     1
      Modes "800x600" "640x480"
   EndSubSection
   SubSection "Display"
      Depth     4
      Modes "800x600" "640x480"
   EndSubSection
   SubSection "Display"
      Depth     8
      Modes "800x600" "640x480"
   EndSubSection
   SubSection "Display"
      Depth     15
      Modes "800x600" "640x480"
   EndSubSection
   SubSection "Display"
      Depth     16
      Modes "1920x1080" "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
   EndSubSection
   SubSection "Display"
      Depth     24
      Modes "1920x1080" "1280x1024" "1280x720" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
   EndSubSection
   SubSection "Display"
      Depth     32
      Modes "1920x1080" "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
   EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "DRI"
   Mode 0666
EndSection


and here's what i I think is important from my log file

Code:
(II) Reloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libddc.a
(WW) NVIDIA(0): Failure reading EDID parameters for display device CRT-0
(II) NVIDIA(0): Monitor0: Using hsync range of 30.00-50.00 kHz
(II) NVIDIA(0): Monitor0: Using vrefresh value of 60.00 Hz
(II) NVIDIA(0): Clock range:  12.00 to 300.00 MHz
(II) NVIDIA(0): Not using mode "1920x1200" (hsync out of range)
(II) NVIDIA(0): Not using mode "1920x1080" (hsync out of range)
(II) NVIDIA(0): Not using mode "1600x1200" (hsync out of range)
(II) NVIDIA(0): Not using mode "1600x1024" (hsync out of range)
(II) NVIDIA(0): Not using mode "1280x1024" (hsync out of range)
(II) NVIDIA(0): Not using mode "1280x1024-70" (hsync out of range)
(II) NVIDIA(0): Not using mode "1280x1024-72" (hsync out of range)
(II) NVIDIA(0): Not using mode "1280x1024-75" (hsync out of range)
(II) NVIDIA(0): Not using mode "1280x960" (hsync out of range)
(II) NVIDIA(0): Not using mode "1280x768-70" (hsync out of range)
(II) NVIDIA(0): Not using mode "1280x768-72" (hsync out of range)
(II) NVIDIA(0): Not using mode "1280x768-75" (hsync out of range)
(II) NVIDIA(0): Not using mode "1280x720" (vrefresh out of range)
(II) NVIDIA(0): Not using mode "1152x864" (hsync out of range)
(II) NVIDIA(0): Not using mode "1024x768" (hsync out of range)
(II) NVIDIA(0): Not using mode "800x600-56" (vrefresh out of range)
(II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "640x350" (vrefresh out of range)
(II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "320x175" (vrefresh out of range)
(II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "640x400" (vrefresh out of range)
(II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "320x200" (vrefresh out of range)
(II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "720x400" (vrefresh out of range)
(II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "360x200" (vrefresh out of range)
(II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "640x480" (vrefresh out of range)
(II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "320x240" (vrefresh out of range)
(II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "640x480" (vrefresh out of range)
(II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "320x240" (vrefresh out of range)
(II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "640x480" (vrefresh out of range)
(II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "320x240" (vrefresh out of range)
(II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "400x300" (vrefresh out of range)
(II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "400x300" (vrefresh out of range)
(II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "400x300" (vrefresh out of range)
(II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "400x300" (hsync out of range)
(II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "512x384" (vrefresh out of range)
(II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "512x384" (hsync out of range)
(II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "512x384" (hsync out of range)
(II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "512x384" (hsync out of range)
(II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "576x432" (hsync out of range)
(II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "640x480" (hsync out of range)
(II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "640x480" (hsync out of range)
(II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "640x512" (hsync out of range)
(II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "640x512" (hsync out of range)
(II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "640x512" (hsync out of range)
(II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "1792x1344" (hsync out of range)
(II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "896x672" (hsync out of range)
(II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "1792x1344" (hsync out of range)
(II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "896x672" (hsync out of range)
(II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "1856x1392" (hsync out of range)
(II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "928x696" (hsync out of range)
(II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "1856x1392" (hsync out of range)
(II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "928x696" (hsync out of range)
(II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "1920x1440" (hsync out of range)
(II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "960x720" (hsync out of range)
(II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "1920x1440" (hsync out of range)
(II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "960x720" (hsync out of range)
(II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "832x624" (vrefresh out of range)
(II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "416x312" (vrefresh out of range)
(II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "1152x768" (vrefresh out of range)
(II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "576x384" (vrefresh out of range)
(II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "1400x1050" (hsync out of range)
(II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "700x525" (hsync out of range)
(II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "1400x1050" (hsync out of range)
(II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "700x525" (hsync out of range)
(II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "800x512" (hsync out of range)
(II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "1920x1440" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan)
(II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "960x720" (hsync out of range)
(II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "2048x1536" (hsync out of range)
(II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "2048x1536" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan)
(II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "2048x1536" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan)
(II) NVIDIA(0): Not using mode "1920x1080" (no mode of this name)
(II) NVIDIA(0): Not using mode "1280x1024" (no mode of this name)
(II) NVIDIA(0): Not using mode "1280x720" (no mode of this name)
(II) NVIDIA(0): Not using mode "1024x768" (no mode of this name)
(II) NVIDIA(0): Not using mode "1280x768" (width too large for virtual size)
(**) NVIDIA(0): Validated modes for display device CRT-0:
(**) NVIDIA(0):      Mode "800x600": 40.0 MHz, 37.9 kHz, 60.4 Hz
(**) NVIDIA(0):      Default mode "640x480": 25.2 MHz, 31.5 kHz, 60.0 Hz
(**) NVIDIA(0):      Default mode "512x384": 32.5 MHz, 48.4 kHz, 60.0 Hz (D)
(**) NVIDIA(0):      Default mode "400x300": 20.0 MHz, 37.9 kHz, 60.3 Hz (D)
(**) NVIDIA(0):      Default mode "320x240": 12.6 MHz, 31.5 kHz, 60.1 Hz (D)
(II) NVIDIA(0): Virtual screen size determined to be 800 x 600
(==) NVIDIA(0): DPI set to (75, 75)


Do I need to change my h and v syncs?
oye, this is hurting my brain.


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(II) NVIDIA(0): Not using mode "1920x1200" (hsync out of range)

yes that modeline will not work with your refresh rates. If you know someone who that modeline has worked for you'll need to find out what refresh rates they used.

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It looks like most if not all of your modelines are being rejected as "out of spec". The modeline calculator at http://www.tkk.fi/Misc/Electronics/faq/vga2rgb/calc.html will let you input your modeline and read back the refresh rates. You can than comapre those to the rates listed as acceptable in the samsung manual to see if you have any valid modelines.

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Ahh ha, now we're getting somewhere.
I looked at the back of my manual and figured out that the horizontal and vertical frequencies it had listed were the VertRefresh and HorizSync rates, and adjusted those accordingly in my X86 config file.

Now i'm getting a new error

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(WW) NVIDIA(0): Not using mode "1920x1080" (exceeds valid memory bandwidth usage)


Is there anything I can do about this, or am I pretty much stuck at 1280 x 1024 (which already looks great).

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A quick google on "exceeds valid memory bandwidth usage" gets you to http://download.nvidia.com/solaris/1.0-8178/README/chapter-04.html, which discusses the casue of this message.

What source material are you playing? From your original post it looks like you are using sdef material captured with a PVR-250? If so, the quality of your recording will be the limiting factor. If you plan to add an HDTV received of some point, as far as I know all HD transmissions are either 1280x720p or 1920x1080i, so those are the two resolutions you need to get working. My original post has modelines & other settings for 1920x1080i, 1280x720p and 1024x768. I also provided the mythtv configuration settings so that mythtv will automatically select the display resolution based on the resolution of the source material.

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Marc -
Thanks, I had seen that page, but i'm not sure if I can do anything about it.
I just want ultra sharp menus, I was planning on using a much lower resolution to play my videos. If I reduced the maximum refresh rate, then i couldn't display at 1920 x 1080 because it would be out of range. And that article says it's not recommended to run without the bandwidth test (even though I wouldn't know how to do that in the first place).
So it seems like I am stuck because of my integrated video, am I correct.


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well does you integrated video allow you to allocate more ram in the bios? you may actually be out of video ram at that high of resolution.

also you may try switching to 16bpp to see if that allows the high resolution on the same ram.

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Thanks, I had seen that page, but i'm not sure if I can do anything about it.
I just want ultra sharp menus, I was planning on using a much lower resolution to play my videos. If I reduced the maximum refresh rate, then i couldn't display at 1920 x 1080 because it would be out of range. And that article says it's not recommended to run without the bandwidth test (even though I wouldn't know how to do that in the first place).


You must of missed this part:
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To work around this, you can reduce the maximum refresh rate by lowering the upper value of the VertRefresh range in the Monitor section of your X config file.


So you could try this to get around the whole exceeds valid memory bandwidth. So i would try reducing the max number and see if it works better. Also, X is right, you may need to either increase the amount of ram for your video in the bios, or get a higher video memory card.


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Ok, I've got my display at 1920 x 1080 finally.
It took 3 steps (all three suggested above)
1. Increase the shared video ram in my bios (64 -> 128)
2. Decrease the Max VertRefresh Rate (75 -> 62)
3. Enable the "NoBandWidthTest" option

BEAUTIFUL. Thank you so much to everyone who has helped me so far.

But nothing is ever this easy.
I have it set up to display the GUI at full resolution, and TV at 640 x 480.
When I try to play a recording, the TV changes resolutions properly, but it looks like it's just zooming in on the recording. In fact, I can only see a grainy, pixelated upper left corner of whatever i chose to play. I searched the forum, and couldn't find anyone talking about this. Has anyone ever seen this???

To solve the problem in the short term, I removed the option to display video and gui in different resolutions. However, now when I try to play a recording a black bar (maybe 30 px wide) appears on the mid-right of my screen going from top to bottom. Then, when I exit the recording I see what I can only describe as tearing. The gui is wrapped around the screen and it looks like someone has applied the photoshop Wind filter to my TV. I can remedy this situation by ctrl+alt+f1 to console, then ctrl+alt+f7 back to my X session.

What gives.

Ok, this is keeping me up too late yet again. Stupid have a job.

Brian


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Ok, thought I'd post some pics to help explain what i'm talking about.

First, my KnoppyMyth on my new 50in Samsung 1080p DLP.
The GUI is being run at 1920 x 1080.
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This is an Episode of South Park while the display is still @ 1920 x 1080.
Note the thin black bar running down the screen.
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After I exit the video playback, i'm greeted with this.
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I thought this may be due to having the resolution still @1920 x 1080, so I went to the Appearance menu and told it to play back video at 640 x 480, which my TV supports. However, the result is just a zoomed in section of the video. It seems as if X is changing the resolution (I have verified this in the TV info), but MythTV is still trying to display 1920 x 1080 pixels. Here's what it looks like.
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You can only see the corner of Stan's hat!!!

Anyone seen this before?


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Well, I didn't have EXACTLY what you have, but I was using an nVidia driver after 6629 but before the latest release. Outputting to my HDTV using a VGA connection yielded me this display:

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It looked this way for all programs and menus. It was only fixed in the last release of the nVidia driver. You may have a similar bug which affects DVI output. I have heard stories of problems with DVI output over on gossamer (the MythTv email list archive).

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