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Author:  Striker1103 [ Sat Jun 03, 2006 6:36 pm ]
Post subject:  minor problems
I am new to myth and to linux, and have searched the forums but I can not find anything that seems to fit my problem.

After a relatively easy install I have a two main issues.


First off The boxes specs are:
-Shuttle SN41G
+ onboard video[GeForce2 MX 265-bit 3D VGA]
+ onboard sound [Realtek ALC 650]
+ nForce2/MCP-T chipset
-Hauppague PVR 350
-Seagate 120 GB hdd
-Athalon XP 2500+
-512 mb Ram

The bigger issue is that after booting up if I go to watch tv, everything seems to work fine. But after a bit, anywhere from 5-20 min later, myth will crash to the desktop. If I try and restart myth from the command line it will say "cannot connect to X server."

And the second less major problem. I can't get my wireless to connect on startup. During the intial bootup it won't find my network. If after startup I run a few commands it will start up fine.

Code:
ifconfig rausb0 up
iwlist rausb0 scan
dhclient rausb0


This causes the ntp server not to start intially as well, which is also an easy fix. So if there would be a way to run these commands before the initial ipconfiguration on startup it seems that it would solve the problem.

I tried adding a run file to /etc/interfaces/if-up.d/ that contained these commands but it did not seem to work.

Any help with this is greatly appreciated, as I said I am new to myth and linux so these may be stupid questions, but they would be a big help to me.

Mike
Author:  mjl [ Sat Jun 03, 2006 7:38 pm ]
Post subject: 
Hi,
Until someone gives a cleaner, more proper way to fix your wireless issue, you could try adding the three commands to the end of /etc/init.d/bootmish.sh Then during the last stages of boot up they would be executed once and should do what you do manually. It is worth the try.

echo "ifconfig rausb0 up" >> /etc/init.d/bootmish.sh
echo "iwlist rausb0 scan " >> /etc/init.d/bootmish.sh
echo "dhclient rausb0" >> /etc/init.d/bootmish.sh

running those three lines as root will add the commands to end of the file. Besure to have two >>

What version of KM have you installed?

Also if you crash to the desktop (world famous picture of our heros), then xserver is still running and only the frontend aborted for some reason.
Suggest that at the desktop, press alt x to open a term window. as mythtv user ($ is mythtv user prompt)
$ mythfrontend &
This should restart the front end and will keep the terminal window open where messages will be displayed. Just to see what is occurring, you may do alt tab to switch (and back) between the frontend to the terminal to see. Maybe you will obtain some clues from that display as currently there isn't much to go on.

Mike
Author:  Striker1103 [ Sun Jun 04, 2006 5:44 pm ]
Post subject: 
Hi,

I am running version R5C7, thanks for the help so far.

Mike, I tried finding boothmish.sh, but it doesnt seem to exist. So first I tried making it and adding it to the end of that file, but it didnt seem to work. Then i noticed there was a bootmisc.sh in that directory, so i added it to the end of that and it seemed to do the trick, thanks alot!

Next, the other problem seemed to progress the first few times that I reopened the front end, the tv froze with no response to remote, mouse, or keyboard.

Just a thought, but i used the example XF86Config-4 for tv out, could that be causing hte problem.

So, when i got the frontend to crash again, this is the error that I got that i can see on the screen, it doesn't mean much to me, but maybe someone can help:

Code:
(fd 15) when opening '/myth/tv/1038_20060603234231.mpg'. 10 retries remaining.
[mpeg @ 0xb73dd278]Parser not found for Codec Id: 94210 !
0: start_time: 0.036 duration: 0.162
1: start_time: 117.762 duration: 0.162
2: start_time: 0.026 duration: 0.134
stream: start_time: 0.289 duration: 1309.981 bitrate=8 kb/s
2006-06003 23:42:35:200 AFD: Opened codec 0x8273430, id(MPEG2VIDEO) type(Video)
2006-06-03 23:42:35.223 AFD: Opened codec 0x827ad70 id(MP2) type(Audio)
2006-06-03 23:42:35.283 Opening audio device '/dev/dsp'.
2006-06-03 23:42:35.223 Opening OSS audio device '/dev/dsp'.
2006-06-03 23:42:35.416 OSDImgCache: Can't find '/usr/share/mythtv/themes/Titivillus-OSD/edit'
2006-06-03 23:42:35.446 OSDImgCache: Can't find '/usr/share/mythtv/themes/Titivillus-OSD/edit'
2006-06-03 23:42:35.518 OSDImgCache: Can't find '/usr/share/mythtv/themes/Titivillus-OSD/edit'
2006-06-03 23:42:35.570 OSDImgCache: Can't find '/usr/share/mythtv/themes/Titivillus-OSD/edit'
2006-06-03 23:42:35.579 TV: Changing from None to WatchingLiveTV
2006-06-03 23:42:35.585 Using realtime priority.
2006-06-03 23:42:35.747 Video timing method: USleep with busy wait


This is where it stops after I start watching TV, after it freezes this is the only aditional code:

Code:
[mpeg2video @ 0xb72e3620]00 motion_type at 19 9
[mpeg2video @ 0xb72e3620]Warning MVs not available
Author:  Striker1103 [ Sun Jun 04, 2006 6:27 pm ]
Post subject: 
also sorry, but is there anyway to get an internet browser on the machine, it would make posting alot easier. I tried doing an apt-get install mozilla, and an apt-get install mozilla-firefox, and it said no packet found. Also while on that note how do you copy and paste? Once again thanks for any help.

Mike
Author:  mjl [ Sun Jun 04, 2006 8:00 pm ]
Post subject: 
Hi Striker1103,

Ok, so far so good. Small steps are far better than no steps.

From what I see, you have a second machine with M$ on it. That is good as you can use it as a tool. Google a program called PuTTY. It is a stand alone app that will allow you to connect to your KM machine as if you were sitting in front of it. You will find it very handy for now. Also you could go to ubuntu.com and pull one of the new iso's to use as tool on your M$ machine. The new ubuntu is also a live cd which means it will run and not mess with your system, unless you tell it to do so.

That said, you need to make this file, it has a couple of extras in it however will not cause you harm, won't hurt your KM either.

copy and paste this in to a notepad or wordpad, there are 5 lines all starting with deb:

deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free
deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable/non-US main contrib non-free
deb http://security.debian.org stable/updates main contrib non-free
deb http://eric.lavar.de/comp/linux/debian/ unstable/
deb-src http://eric.lavar.de/comp/linux/debian/ unstable/
save as sources.list
IF you have a usb memory stick copy it there also. I know cesman has some auto usb scripts running, however I do things the hardway, not meaning better, just harder.
On your KM box, login and switch to root, then you will need to edit a file and add a directory:
Easy first, (# is the root prompt symbol)
# mkdir /stick
# nano /etc/fstab
(after the line about the floppy, insert the following)
/dev/sda1 /stick vfat defaults,user,noauto,showexec,umask=022 0 0

do ctl x y return to save it

At this point, you should be able to insert the mem stick and as root,
# mount /stick
# ls /stick
If your save copy of sources.list is there copy it:
# cp /stick/sources.list /etc/apt/
It may ask about over write press y and return.
If all goes successful,
# apt-get update
At this point it should be safe for you to install mozilla (I don't use firefox so can't tell you about it) There will be a couple of questions, one answer is "debian" and the other is "auto" The quiz is near the end of the install :)
# lapt-get install mozilla
email ? I like thunderbird..
# apt-get install mozilla-thunderbird
You can install many other apps and not break things to badly. Don't use Synaptic except to find the exact name of the apt to install, use apt-get, there is a reason.

If you open an xterm, by entering mozilla& you should see a browser appear, do alt tab and enter mozilla-thunderbird& and you should have an e-mail client open up also. alt tab lets you switch between apps.

Now that you have a browser available, you may copy and paste easily with a wheel mouse. Left click, hold & wipe.. go to paste location and click the wheel to paste :) Exhausting huh? :)

This error
2006-06-03 23:42:35.416 OSDImgCache: Can't find '/usr/share/mythtv/themes/Titivillus-OSD/edit'
you should be able to clear by going into Utilies/Setup > Setup > Appearance > (I like MythCenter) Pick your favorite choice.
Go to Utilies/Setup > Setup > Tv Settings > Playback > and about 8 pages in, there is a menu for the OSD, I use isthmus, (small i)

This one is a new one for me,
[mpeg2video @ 0xb72e3620]00 motion_type at 19 9
[mpeg2video @ 0xb72e3620]Warning MVs not available
fix what you can first. Looks as if you may have turned "motion" on, if so check the menus and turn it off for now.

At least you have something to try, maybe a couple more small steps :)
Mike
Author:  cesman [ Tue Jun 06, 2006 1:04 am ]
Post subject: 
MythBrowser is already installed.
Author:  mjl [ Tue Jun 06, 2006 5:17 am ]
Post subject: 
Good morning,

Yes, and the Mythbrowser also. Sorry cesman, forgot to mention it and it is already installed. I always add localhost as one of my favorite web sites :)

Mike
Author:  Striker1103 [ Tue Jun 06, 2006 7:38 pm ]
Post subject: 
Mike, when you say I see you have a second machine with M$ on it do you mean Myth? I have a second computer running windows that I am using.

So, I was able to update through apt-get thanks for that help.

I dont know if you missed it before, but I am using the sample tv-out XF86Config-4 file, could that me causing the problem?

As for the errors, I changed both themes, and the same errors popped up with the new names, although the themes did change, and do not seem to cause a real problem.

Although the other problem is continuing and progressing. One time when i tried to open the front end from the terminal window it even brought me to the initial set up screen where you choose the language. Just now it said could not connect to the master backend, which I thought i set this computer up to be?

I found out that no messages pop up on the terminal when the system locks up completely. Other than that the same problem with a few new features seems to persist

The only motion option that i saw was under the tv settings/playback menu: Deinterface playback->Algorithm: Linear blend (which i believe is default)

Thanks for the help

Mike
Author:  Striker1103 [ Tue Jun 06, 2006 7:42 pm ]
Post subject: 
I dont know if this means anything, but I was just going through the menus to try and fix some cutoff that i noticed, parts of screen went beyond the tv. and all of a sudden it quit to a wierd flower screen with mythtv login for 30 seconds and then came back to the initial menu
Author:  mjl [ Tue Jun 06, 2006 8:02 pm ]
Post subject: 
Hi Striker1103,

M$ = Micro$oft, most anything windows usually cost money. Not that it is bad thing, it is business.

KM = KnoppMyth, I'm lazy

Yes, I did miss the "example" part as I read it that you were using it as an example., not using the .example. Silly me :)

It is obvious that you have a second machine that is M$, you downloaded & created an iso, you can do e-mail & browse while working on your new KM machine....

Since this is basicly a different topic maybe Cecil would recomend a different thread? The original issue was wireless, which led into getting a browser, which is leading into it's broke. no tv.

Question to ponder on, when you did the original install, did it not ask if you wanted to use tv out since you had a 350 tv card? Are you trying for tv on the computer monitor or tv out of 350 card?

Mike
Author:  Striker1103 [ Tue Jun 06, 2006 8:28 pm ]
Post subject: 
I didnt use the 350 tv out, I am trying to use the built in tv out from the onboard geforce5200. I have been using it since the beginning and it has always output properly, but the lockups were always there.

Would it be better to use the PVR350's tv out/do you think that this is the problem?
Author:  mjl [ Tue Jun 06, 2006 8:57 pm ]
Post subject: 
Hi Striker1103,

Possible, I have read somewhere also the agp window setting in cmos had an effect. Seems to work out best if ~50 % of the memory size of the agp. Maybe it ties up the bus to long if it is larger? Only a suggestion based on observations from the forum.

To try the 350 tv out, it might be this script /usr/local/bin/setup_350.sh as root. That should give you a working display to start if it is the correct one. Did you choose boot splash? If so, check the fb in the XF86Config-4 before rebooting, may need to be set to fb1

Don't be hasty and run "patches" and new drivers without careful research as they may not apply and will take you down the path. Other than tweaks, the only patches I even consider come from cesman, tjc, Xsecrets, Human, Liv2Cod and a couple of other guru's here on the form. The stock iso's seem to work on just about everything I put it on. Degrees of qualtiy for preformance, 400mhz verses 3ghz, is a different story but they all worked :)

Mike
Author:  cesman [ Tue Jun 06, 2006 11:03 pm ]
Post subject: 
I should not have to recommend a different thread. I think the forum is laid out in a logical manner. Depending on the topic, the forum screams where to place one's questions, comments, etc. I guess some folks are just deaf.
Author:  mjl [ Wed Jun 07, 2006 7:25 am ]
Post subject: 
Hi & good morning cesman,

Sorry, I guess I have misphrased that a little. I was suggesting that based on the change of content and using your topic seperators, that he start a different thread in a more appropriate area. Not so much that you personnally tell us where to go, But that is a skill also :)

Have a great day!
Mike
Author:  Striker1103 [ Wed Jun 07, 2006 3:52 pm ]
Post subject: 
Mike,

So i tried setting up the PVR 350 drivers, and then it said could not load the X server after the initial boot up due to errors in the XF86Config-4 files, thinking that I had not done too much since installing I figured I would try from a fresh install, doing only what I know worked, hoping that I changed something I shouldn't have. But now it is getting the same error even on a new install. I am going to make a post on the installation pages, thanks for hte help though.

Mike
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