My video card has a small fan on it. The fan makes the most annoying noise. So tonight I replaced it with another very low end model sans fan.

I don't use the video card at all, I use the composite out on my PVR-350.

So after I reboot the frontend won't start automagically and gdm is spewing errors. When I start the frontend from an ssh session tho, up it comes.

What's going on? I surmise that whatever video card you want to use has to handle the bare minimum that the TV can handle?

Your comments are appreciated.

Thanks,

Abby

Do you have a monitor plugged in to the video card? Does it show an error message on the monitor? What brand and model video cards are you talking about (tell us about both old and new). If you can ssh in did you check the logs in /var/logs for errors?

The original card which whines is a 64 meg nVidia model with only RGB out (DB-15 connector). The replacement is a 4 meg (very old) card, no idea which model.

I'm really familiar with unix but not so great with X. So I think this is a very basic issue.

Thanks for your help,

Abby

XF86Config log shows:

XFree86 Version 4.5.0
Release Date: 16 March 2005
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.17-chw-2 i686 [ELF]
Current Operating System: Linux mythtv 2.6.17-chw-8 #1 SMP PREEMPT Sun Jul 30 12:38:47 PDT 2006 i686
Build Date: 22 June 2006
Changelog Date: 17 March 2005
Before reporting problems, check http://www.XFree86.Org/
to make sure that you have the latest version.
Module Loader present
Command line: /usr/X11R6/bin/X :0 -audit 0 -auth /var/lib/gdm/:0.Xauth -nolisten tcp vt7
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (EE) error, (WW) warning,
(II) informational, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: "/var/log/XFree86.0.log", Time: Tue Nov 21 00:48:30 2006
(==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/XF86Config-4".
(II) Module ABI versions:
XFree86 ANSI C Emulation: 0.3
XFree86 Video Driver: 0.8
XFree86 XInput driver : 0.5
XFree86 Server Extension : 0.3
XFree86 Font Renderer : 0.5
(II) Loader running on linux
(WW) No Layout section. Using the first Screen section.
(==) Keyboard: CustomKeycode disabled.
(WW) The core pointer device wasn't specified explicitly in the layout.
Using the default mouse configuration.
(WW) The core keyboard device wasn't specified explicitly in the layout.
Using the default keyboard configuration.
(==) ServerLayout "(implicit)"
(==) |-->Screen "TV Screen" (-1) (-1, -1)
(**) | |-->Device "Hauppauge PVR 350 iTVC15 Framebuffer"
(**) | |-->Monitor "NTSC Monitor" (0)
(==) |-->Input Device "<default pointer>"
(==) |-->Input Device "<default keyboard>"
(==) FontPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/"
(==) RgbPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"
(==) ModulePath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules"
(II) Checking for unused ServerFlags options:
(II) LoadModule: "pcidata"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libpcidata.a
(II) Module pcidata: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
compiled for 4.5.0, module version = 1.0.0
ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.8
(II) LoadModule: "bitmap"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libbitmap.a
(II) Module bitmap: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
compiled for 4.5.0, module version = 1.0.0
Module class: XFree86 Font Renderer
ABI class: XFree86 Font Renderer, version 0.5
(II) Loading font Bitmap
(++) using VT number 7

(II) PCI: Probing config type using method 1
(II) PCI: Config type is 1
(II) PCI: stages = 0x03, oldVal1 = 0x00000000, mode1Res1 = 0x80000000
(II) PCI: PCI scan (all values are in hex)
(II) PCI: 00:00:0: chip 8086,1a30 card 0000,0000 rev 04 class 06,00,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:01:0: chip 8086,1a31 card 0000,0000 rev 04 class 06,04,00 hdr 01
(II) PCI: 00:1e:0: chip 8086,244e card 0000,0000 rev 05 class 06,04,00 hdr 01
(II) PCI: 00:1f:0: chip 8086,2440 card 0000,0000 rev 05 class 06,01,00 hdr 80
(II) PCI: 00:1f:1: chip 8086,244b card 8086,5054 rev 05 class 01,01,80 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:1f:2: chip 8086,2442 card 8086,5054 rev 05 class 0c,03,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:1f:3: chip 8086,2443 card 8086,5054 rev 05 class 0c,05,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:1f:4: chip 8086,2444 card 8086,5054 rev 05 class 0c,03,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 02:08:0: chip 8086,2449 card 8086,3013 rev 03 class 02,00,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 02:09:0: chip 1013,00b8 card 0000,0000 rev 00 class 03,00,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 02:0a:0: chip 1102,0002 card 1102,8064 rev 07 class 04,01,00 hdr 80
(II) PCI: 02:0a:1: chip 1102,7002 card 1102,0020 rev 07 class 09,80,00 hdr 80
(II) PCI: 02:0b:0: chip 14e4,4212 card 14e4,0002 rev 00 class 07,03,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 02:0c:0: chip 104c,8020 card 14db,f000 rev 00 class 0c,00,10 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 02:0d:0: chip 4444,0803 card 0070,4000 rev 01 class 04,00,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: End of PCI scan
(II) Host-to-PCI bridge:
(II) Bus 0: bridge is at (0:0:0), (0,0,2), BCTRL: 0x0008 (VGA_EN is set)
(II) Bus 0 I/O range:
[0] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0000ffff (0x10000) IX[B]
(II) Bus 0 non-prefetchable memory range:
[0] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0xffffffff (0x0) MX[B]
(II) Bus 0 prefetchable memory range:
[0] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0xffffffff (0x0) MX[B]
(II) PCI-to-PCI bridge:
(II) Bus 1: bridge is at (0:1:0), (0,1,1), BCTRL: 0x0006 (VGA_EN is cleared)
(II) Bus 1 non-prefetchable memory range:
[0] -1 0 0xff800000 - 0xff8fffff (0x100000) MX[B]
(II) Bus 1 prefetchable memory range:
[0] -1 0 0xec900000 - 0xec9fffff (0x100000) MX[B]
(II) PCI-to-PCI bridge:
(II) Bus 2: bridge is at (0:30:0), (0,2,2), BCTRL: 0x000a (VGA_EN is set)
(II) Bus 2 I/O range:
[0] -1 0 0x0000d000 - 0x0000dfff (0x1000) IX[B]
(II) Bus 2 non-prefetchable memory range:
[0] -1 0 0xff900000 - 0xff9fffff (0x100000) MX[B]
(II) Bus 2 prefetchable memory range:
[0] -1 0 0xeca00000 - 0xf6afffff (0xa100000) MX[B]
(II) PCI-to-ISA bridge:
(II) Bus -1: bridge is at (0:31:0), (0,-1,-1), BCTRL: 0x0008 (VGA_EN is set)
(--) PCI:*(2:9:0) Cirrus Logic GD 5446 rev 0, Mem @ 0xf5000000/24, BIOS @ 0xff9f8000/15
(--) PCI: (2:13:0) unknown vendor (0x4444) unknown chipset (0x0803) rev 1, Mem @ 0xf0000000/26
(WW) Open APM failed (/dev/apm_bios) (No such device)
(II) Addressable bus resource ranges are
[0] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0xffffffff (0x0) MX[B]
[1] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0000ffff (0x10000) IX[B]
(II) OS-reported resource ranges:
[0] -1 0 0xffe00000 - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MX[B](B)
[1] -1 0 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B)
[2] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B]
[3] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B]
[4] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B]
[5] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B]
[6] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B]
(II) PCI Memory resource overlap reduced 0xf8000000 from 0xfbffffff to 0xf7ffffff
(II) Active PCI resource ranges:
[0] -1 0 0xff9f0000 - 0xff9f3fff (0x4000) MX[B]E
[1] -1 0 0xff9f5800 - 0xff9f5fff (0x800) MX[B]E
[2] -1 0 0xff9f6000 - 0xff9f6fff (0x1000) MX[B]E
[3] -1 0 0xff9f7000 - 0xff9f7fff (0x1000) MX[B]E
[4] -1 0 0xf8000000 - 0xf7ffffff (0x0) MX[B]EO
[5] -1 0 0xf0000000 - 0xf3ffffff (0x4000000) MX[B](B)
[6] -1 0 0xff9f8000 - 0xff9fffff (0x8000) MX[B](B)
[7] -1 0 0xf5000000 - 0xf5ffffff (0x1000000) MX[B](B)
[8] -1 0 0x0000dfa0 - 0x0000dfaf (0x10) IX[B]E
[9] -1 0 0x0000dff0 - 0x0000dff7 (0x8) IX[B]E
[10] -1 0 0x0000df80 - 0x0000df9f (0x20) IX[B]E
[11] -1 0 0x0000df00 - 0x0000df3f (0x40) IX[B]E
[12] -1 0 0x0000ef80 - 0x0000ef9f (0x20) IX[B]E
[13] -1 0 0x0000efa0 - 0x0000efaf (0x10) IX[B]E
[14] -1 0 0x0000ef40 - 0x0000ef5f (0x20) IX[B]E
[15] -1 0 0x0000ffa0 - 0x0000ffaf (0x10) IX[B]E
(II) Active PCI resource ranges after removing overlaps:
[0] -1 0 0xff9f0000 - 0xff9f3fff (0x4000) MX[B]E
[1] -1 0 0xff9f5800 - 0xff9f5fff (0x800) MX[B]E
[2] -1 0 0xff9f6000 - 0xff9f6fff (0x1000) MX[B]E
[3] -1 0 0xff9f7000 - 0xff9f7fff (0x1000) MX[B]E
[4] -1 0 0xf8000000 - 0xf7ffffff (0x0) MX[B]EO
[5] -1 0 0xf0000000 - 0xf3ffffff (0x4000000) MX[B](B)
[6] -1 0 0xff9f8000 - 0xff9fffff (0x8000) MX[B](B)
[7] -1 0 0xf5000000 - 0xf5ffffff (0x1000000) MX[B](B)
[8] -1 0 0x0000dfa0 - 0x0000dfaf (0x10) IX[B]E
[9] -1 0 0x0000dff0 - 0x0000dff7 (0x8) IX[B]E
[10] -1 0 0x0000df80 - 0x0000df9f (0x20) IX[B]E
[11] -1 0 0x0000df00 - 0x0000df3f (0x40) IX[B]E
[12] -1 0 0x0000ef80 - 0x0000ef9f (0x20) IX[B]E
[13] -1 0 0x0000efa0 - 0x0000efaf (0x10) IX[B]E
[14] -1 0 0x0000ef40 - 0x0000ef5f (0x20) IX[B]E
[15] -1 0 0x0000ffa0 - 0x0000ffaf (0x10) IX[B]E
(II) OS-reported resource ranges after removing overlaps with PCI:
[0] -1 0 0xffe00000 - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MX[B](B)
[1] -1 0 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B)
[2] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B]
[3] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B]
[4] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B]
[5] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B]
[6] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B]
(II) All system resource ranges:
[0] -1 0 0xffe00000 - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MX[B](B)
[1] -1 0 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B)
[2] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B]
[3] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B]
[4] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B]
[5] -1 0 0xff9f0000 - 0xff9f3fff (0x4000) MX[B]E
[6] -1 0 0xff9f5800 - 0xff9f5fff (0x800) MX[B]E
[7] -1 0 0xff9f6000 - 0xff9f6fff (0x1000) MX[B]E
[8] -1 0 0xff9f7000 - 0xff9f7fff (0x1000) MX[B]E
[9] -1 0 0xf8000000 - 0xf7ffffff (0x0) MX[B]EO
[10] -1 0 0xf0000000 - 0xf3ffffff (0x4000000) MX[B](B)
[11] -1 0 0xff9f8000 - 0xff9fffff (0x8000) MX[B](B)
[12] -1 0 0xf5000000 - 0xf5ffffff (0x1000000) MX[B](B)
[13] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B]
[14] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B]
[15] -1 0 0x0000dfa0 - 0x0000dfaf (0x10) IX[B]E
[16] -1 0 0x0000dff0 - 0x0000dff7 (0x8) IX[B]E
[17] -1 0 0x0000df80 - 0x0000df9f (0x20) IX[B]E
[18] -1 0 0x0000df00 - 0x0000df3f (0x40) IX[B]E
[19] -1 0 0x0000ef80 - 0x0000ef9f (0x20) IX[B]E
[20] -1 0 0x0000efa0 - 0x0000efaf (0x10) IX[B]E
[21] -1 0 0x0000ef40 - 0x0000ef5f (0x20) IX[B]E
[22] -1 0 0x0000ffa0 - 0x0000ffaf (0x10) IX[B]E
(II) LoadModule: "ivtvdev"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/ivtvdev_drv.o
(II) Module ivtv: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
compiled for 4.3.0, module version = 0.10.6
ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.6
(II) LoadModule: "mouse"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/input/mouse_drv.o
(II) Module mouse: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
compiled for 4.5.0, module version = 1.0.0
Module class: XFree86 XInput Driver
ABI class: XFree86 XInput driver, version 0.5
(II) IVTVDEV_TST: driver for framebuffer: PVR-350
(II) Primary Device is: PCI 02:09:0
(--) Chipset PVR-350 found
(EE) open /dev/fb1: No such device
(EE) Screen 0 deleted because of no matching config section.
(EE) Device(s) detected, but none match those in the config file.

Fatal server error:
no screens found

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This can be found in the log file "/var/log/XFree86.0.log".
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Did you change the drivers and the configuration for the new card?

You didn't say whether you did or not. Linux doesn't automatically allow for it, as far as I know.

Hi,
Most of your answers are in the list you posted.
card should be Cirrus Logic GD 5446
with address of Primary Device is: PCI 02:09:0
lspci will give the same information.

You will need to edit the xorg.conf and change the pci bus to the new number and also change the driver to the new card, I think cirrus is the driver for it.

once you have made the changes, as root do a startx and it should come up with gray screen. If so, alt - ctl - backspace will kill it.

You may be able to simply restart the display manager or a reboot should bring back life.

Mike

Well both steps seem pretty simple but I'm still confused. I'm pumping X out over the PVR-350's component output. Why would I list "cirrus" as the driver and change the busid to that card? Currently both are set to the PVR-350.

Thanks,

Abby

Hi,
If I knew the dark inner secrets of why, I would be probably trying the help solve the world energy issues and global warmining. At this moment I don't have my 350 driving the tv so exactly where the two points are listed I can't say.

Basicly I have found that if you can't fire off the xserver to a regular computer monitor then the frame buffer won't work either. Probably if we both were to google a little the answer is "out there" somewhere as the frame buffer seems to be simply rerouting the the video to a different hardware location. In this case the pvr-350.

There is also a universal video driver that works 99.9% called vesa however that does not seem to work with the frame buffer (fb0 or fb1).

Most fans I find that are older make noise because like a baby, they need to have a little tlc. Usually a small drop of sewing machine oil will make them hum quietly for a long time.

Mike

350 out is composite, not omponet.

Yeah yeah yeah, composite I get it.

The changes which Ryan recommended, are they in XF86Config-4.1st? If so then that really doesn't make sense. If this is all obvious then just confirm anyway.

Thanks,

Abs

errr, I meant DOES make sense.... my bad

Probably because your current configuration is still looking for the video card you had before.

Just because you aren't using the hardware doesn't mean it doesn't reference it on boot up. Mythtv might not be using the video card for display, but the initial linux install still found it and expects it.

Besides, are you sure linux isn't using that video card? If you were to reinstall the old one with the old settings, and hook up a monitor to it, you might find that it's displaying to the monitor too.

Hi,

I forget what version you are running... try as root
# nano /etc/X11/XF86Config-4

Mike