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Author:  colinnwn [ Tue May 15, 2007 2:30 pm ]
Post subject:  Disabling auto-expire doesn't stop auto-expire

Hi,

Twice I have dubbed VCR recordings onto Myth using these instructions, then I have disabled auto-expire. Once I used mythweb, the other time I used the program options dialog in MythTV. Both times the recording auto-expired anyway.

Does anyone know why this might be occurring? Or is there an appropriate log to check?

Thanks.

Author:  Girkers [ Tue May 15, 2007 10:16 pm ]
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The mythbackend log will talk to you about auto expire, you can access it via MythWeb.

Author:  colinnwn [ Wed May 16, 2007 8:15 pm ]
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So I found the expiration in my log. But I am 100% certain that I disabled the autoexpire flag after recording was finished. I even went in and verified it said reenable autoexpire. I already had another recording autoexpire when I disabled it in mythweb so I wanted to be sure I wasn't crazy.

Does this give any clue as to why it happened?

Thanks.
Code:
2007-05-13 19:15:06.268 Expiring Unknown from Sat May 12 19:09:33 2007, 69 MBytes, forced expire (LiveTV recording)

Author:  bruce_s01 [ Thu May 17, 2007 9:42 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Disabling auto-expire doesn't stop auto-expire

colinnwn wrote:
Hi,

Twice I have dubbed VCR recordings onto Myth using these instructions, then I have disabled auto-expire. Once I used mythweb, the other time I used the program options dialog in MythTV. Both times the recording auto-expired anyway.
Thanks.


A way to get around that problem is to use the Manual timed record.
You cue the VCR, then set up the time and length of the recording (plus a bit extra), when the recording starts, press play on the VCR then the recording should be OK.

Bruce S.

Author:  mogator88 [ Thu May 17, 2007 11:34 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Disabling auto-expire doesn't stop auto-expire

colinnwn wrote:
Twice I have dubbed VCR recordings onto Myth using these instructions, then I have disabled auto-expire. Once I used mythweb, the other time I used the program options dialog in MythTV. Both times the recording auto-expired anyway.

Does anyone know why this might be occurring? Or is there an appropriate log to check?


Any chance it's getting deleted because of a full disk situation? If EVERYTHING is set NOT to expire, eventually the disk will fill up. I would think myth would have to start deleting things so it could continue recording. And, if your transfers have a lower priority setting, that would explain why they're being deleted so quickly. Could that be the case for you?

Author:  khrusher [ Thu May 17, 2007 1:02 pm ]
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you can also move the manual recording into the video directory and access via MythVideo

Author:  colinnwn [ Thu May 17, 2007 7:24 pm ]
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Quote:
Any chance it's getting deleted because of a full disk situation? If EVERYTHING is set NOT to expire
The disk is full. But of my scheduled recordings, only about 10% are set to not auto-expire. Does Myth delete live-tv recordings set to not auto-expire, before it deletes scheduled recordings with auto-expire enabled? It seems to make more sense the other way around. What if you happen to live-record something you REALLY want to keep?

Quote:
A way to get around that problem is to use the Manual timed record.
I didn't do this because I wanted to keep the lead-in and lead-out as short as possible since I haven't found a good editing tool yet. But I may need to switch to this method.

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move the manual recording into the video directory
I haven't used this at all yet, but I may try to figure this out first. It would make more sense to have it in my videos since it is me skydiving.

Thanks everyone.

Author:  mogator88 [ Thu May 17, 2007 8:34 pm ]
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Setup -> TV settings --> General

Second Page, first option

"Auto Expire Method"

Per the help text at the bottom, "LiveTV recordings will always expire before normal recordings."

Sorry, you're SOL and there doesn't seem to be a way to change it. My suggestion is learn how to set up post-processing to automatically move these recordings as suggested previously. I'd tell you how if I knew, but i don't. And get a larger disk.

Author:  pelrun [ Thu May 17, 2007 11:16 pm ]
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Those recordings are in the LiveTV recording group; you can change that afterwards. (select the recording and bring up the Info menu, iirc)

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