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Author:  Ghengis042 [ Thu Nov 01, 2007 5:21 pm ]
Post subject:  Cutlist editing in Windows
I've googled a fair bit, and I don't see a good solution to my problem. My myth box is inconvenient to access physically -- it's upstairs in a storage room, and my kid I have to keep an eye on while my wife is cooking has to stay downstairs.

I'd like to edit my cutlists so I can start transcoding without walking upstairs. Problem is, all my other boxes run WinXP (for the games :roll: ). VNC-ing to my x11vnc server shows the Mythfrontend interface, but not the video when I try to edit it -- it's just a black screen.

So, my goal is to edit custlists on Windows... somehow. Maybe I can tweak the Linux box to display back the video overlay over VNC (albeit at a reduced framerate -- not a problem for editing). Maybe there's a different remote-connection tool I'm not aware of that does display the video. Maybe there's a Windows program to edit the cutlists directly. Maybe there's another way I haven't thought of. Any solution you have, I'd love to hear.
Author:  bigbro [ Thu Nov 01, 2007 6:49 pm ]
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How do you playback all that content on your TV now?

If you setup a separate Myth Frontend elsewhere then you could edit the commercials, transcode etc from that location.

You could also Load a live frontend from one of your other machines and do it there as well.

You would need to configure it but there are multiple posts around here about that.
Author:  Ghengis [ Fri Nov 02, 2007 6:57 pm ]
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I set up a samba share and play them over the network using various Windows media players (mostly media player classic).

It would be a pretty big pain to have to reboot to do cutlist editing -- I'm holding out for a simple application. I think I read somewhere that somebody had done cutlist editing over VNC (maybe from a Mac?) and I'm hoping for that sort of thing

I've actually thought of writing my own, but I just don't have the time right now. It should be pretty simple, right? I mean, query the commflag values, edit them, write back the cutlist values, easy-peasy. I think.

Anyway, until that time comes I'd like some kind of NATIVE Windows (or remoting) solution, if such a thing exists.
Author:  jmckeown2 [ Mon Nov 05, 2007 6:04 am ]
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I use RealVNC when in Windows, and whatever VNC viewer comes with Ubuntu, (although I usually use a proper Myth front end in Ubuntu.) I actually get the video over the VNC connection. It is as you say, laughable frame rates, but workable in edit mode.

I was pretty firmly in the "Linux isn't ready for the desktop" camp until I tried an Ubuntu live disk several months back. The new 7.10 release is even better and sets the bar for how a version upgrade should be done.

On the other side; I've read about people getting versions of KM running in VM Ware; as I recall there are some issues with tuners, and playback frame rates, but again, it may be perfectly acceptable for cut point editing.
Author:  Ghengis [ Mon Nov 05, 2007 10:06 pm ]
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Now there's a thought -- KM frontend livecd in VMWare! I'll have to make that a project for the weekend.

Until then... can I ask what settings you're using for your VNC? What Windows client is it? What server is running on the KM box? Any special settings? Xorg driver tweaking? That's really what I was getting at. For reference, I'm running TightVNC connecting to x11vnc, and I don't think I've done anything special with the settings on either end.
Author:  turpie [ Mon Nov 05, 2007 10:52 pm ]
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Ghengis,
Are you using Xvmc on the server? (IIRC) Because it uses the video card to decode the video it can't be captured by VNC.
Author:  funkydan2 [ Tue Nov 06, 2007 1:10 am ]
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Ghengis wrote:
Now there's a thought -- KM frontend livecd in VMWare! I'll have to make that a project for the weekend.


Instructions are on the wiki

I used to be able to play (poorly) video through VNC using UltraVNC as the client in windows. I don't know what happened to break it, it may have either been me (foolishly) running 'apt-get upgrade' or maybe swapping out my 6200 series nVidia card for a 5200 card. (Figured my headless box didn't need the better card.)

It doesn't do it yet, but there are plans for MythTvPlayer to edit cutlists sometime in the future.
Author:  Ghengis [ Tue Nov 06, 2007 8:31 pm ]
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I'm wondering: would it be possible to make a dedicated cutlist editor using only command line tools? That is, is there a commonly-used tool that generates a static image from a movie at a specified time offset? I was thinking it would be really easy to use such a tool to generate a grid of stills to show where cutpoints are, then allow updates to the list, and re-generate the grid. The only part I don't already know how to do is the programmatic frame-grabbing...
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