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PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 4:21 am 
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i get stuck on the bolded line, because it tells me there is no such file or directory


You should look and see what is in your /usr/src directory so you can find out the right file name.

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cd /usr/src
ls


Then see what is in there. You're probably following directions that were written before R5 was released. When I list what's in my /usr/src folder, the name of the file I'd need to untar is "kernel-source-2.6.11.7-chw-3.tar.bz2", but it may be different for you.


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Hi shaggy6ster,

No problem about asking for a little help here and there. As for the 'search' comments seen a few times are not ment in a bad way. I often do the search looking for things by the people who wrote them. I try to pay real close attention when the cesman responds, Xsecrets and tjc have very valuable guidence also as do the many other fine people here. You can look up all their material simply by clicking on the name in the last post and then click on 'find all post by _______'.

Keep in mind that some of the answers amy seem cryptic and terse, however they, like many of us have a "day' job so we can eat and buy hardware to put KnoppMyth on. They also answer a lot of questions every day, and just want everyone to try to look for the solution as it often times has been covered earlier.


At this point, I would suggest, a fresh start for you. Throw in the R5A16 cd (absolutely great release) and redo as an update. Take notes of each thing you do and steps to get there as you procede. If you decide to use someones information, try to understand what is occuring because you may not want some feature.

Most of the stuff I have posted is fairly basic and all are done in a script form. I do that so I can remember exactly what I did and how so it is repeatable.

Also start with more details as to the hardware you are using, where the card is located, example I have it running on a Intel 600mhz 440BX with 256 meg mem, 80 gig drive, with a pvr-350, dvd, floppy
This gives me tv out of the pvr card using the on board decoder.

I have found that it is best to place the pvr card at least on slot away from the agp slot, (I don't know why it makes a difference) Since I use the pvr, I use a cheap ati pci video card. Since you just starting, keep it simple.

I have also found (keeping it basic) that when you go through the upgrade, then tweak the first time stuff in mythtv-setup, that you will usually have most things workable. If you start off with no ethernet, no sound, no tv on the monitor, it is not good and will require a lot tire kicking to make it run. Try playing a cd, ripping a cd, it works and you hear it great.

Do the weather, news reader, do a lot of reading, If not... well, hopefully that gives you some ideas on how I progress. Not all hardware is built the same. I have an Asrock mobo K7S41, no audio, pvr card won't work (gets hot too) Good sucess with Dell GX260 and GX270, did ok with a DEll GX1 (400 mhz), works very good on my Walmart e-machine, was almost an 'out of the box' experience. I haven't got to the high end stuff yet as the budget holds that back. :(

If something isn't understood, ask for clarity on the topic. I personnally have this tendency to type a lot slower than I think and leave out a word or so:) The preview button helps for that problem.

Thanks and and welcome to linux.
Mike


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shaggy6ster wrote:
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1) cd /usr/src
2) tar xvfj linux-2.4.25-chw.tar.bz2
3) cd /usr/local/lib/ivtv/
4) mv driver/ driver.old


i get stuck on the bolded line, because it tells me there is no such file or directory. i changed the numbers to match the ones on my distro (2.6.11.9-chw-2) but that didnt work either. im assuming im using R5V5, wather than R5V4, and thats part of the problem, but im not sure.

You can't do this stuff blindly any more than you would follow driving directions blindly. If I told you to get off on "exit 29 east" and the exit was labelled "29a to Rt 2 east" you'd make the adjustment without much thought. This stuff isn't all that different. Do an ls -al once you get to /usr/src and you should see an obvious kernel source tarball. For example...
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root@black2:~# cd /usr/src
root@black2:/usr/src# ls -al
total 63324
drwxrwsr-x   5 root src      4096 Jul 12 00:27 .
drwxr-xr-x  13 root root     4096 Nov 25  2004 ..
-rw-r--r--   1 root src    210649 Apr 29 01:18 MPlayer-1.0pre6a_knoppmyth.diff
-rw-r--r--   1 root src   8725221 Apr 17 18:17 NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-6629-pkg1.run
-rw-r--r--   1 root src   9450570 Mar 22 10:59 NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-7174-pkg1.run
-rw-r--r--   1 root src    200639 Dec 29  2004 aviman_0.9pre5.tar.bz2
-rw-r--r--   1 root src    600068 Apr 18 22:47 ivtv-0.2.0-rc3j.tgz
-rw-r--r--   1 root src    616906 Apr 28 10:14 ivtv-0.3.3u.tgz
drwxr-xr-x  19 root root     4096 May 21 10:39 kernel-source-2.6.11.9-chw-2
-rw-r--r--   1 root root 37405762 May 23 20:35 kernel-source-2.6.11.9-chw-2.tar.bz2
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root src        28 Jun 21 22:26 linux -> kernel-source-2.6.11.9-chw-2
-rw-r--r--   1 root root   144899 Mar 28 16:11 lirc-modules.tar.gz
dr-xr-xr-x   2 root root     4096 May 27 19:11 modules
drwxr-sr-x   6 root src      4096 May 27 18:48 mythtv
-rw-r--r--   1 root src   2094306 Mar 19 13:45 nuv2disc-latest.tgz
-rw-r--r--   1 root src      9805 Apr 17 18:17 nv6629.diff
-rw-r--r--   1 root src   1113187 Dec 31  2004 pcHDTV-1.6.tar.gz
-rw-r--r--   1 root src    535267 Mar  9 02:56 pcHDTV-2.0.tar.gz
-rw-r--r--   1 root src   2628685 Apr 16 00:23 remotes_lircrc.tar.bz2
-rw-r--r--   1 root src    121752 May 21 11:03 wis-go7007-linux-0.9.4.tgz
-rw-r--r--   1 root src    816226 Mar 22 14:27 zm-1.21.0.tar.gz

It may be called linux and some version number or like here it might be called "kernel-source-2.6.11.9-chw-2.tar.bz2", just like when you're driving you need to look around and follow the road signs (unless someone tells you different).


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thanks, they helps alot. like i said, im not ungrateful for any of the help you had given me, but i was really needing someone to feel extra generuous and talk stupid to me.

the only question i have after all that is, how did you just post all that code? im assuming you didnt copy it by hand.


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you use putty from a windows machine to log in via ssh then you can copy and paste from the putty window.

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Have a question search the forum and have a look at the KnoppMythWiki.

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Xsecrets wrote:
you use putty from a windows machine to log in via ssh then you can copy and paste from the putty window.



......o_0?

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1) cd /usr/src
2) tar xvfj linux-2.4.25-chw.tar.bz2
3) cd /usr/local/lib/ivtv/
4) mv driver/ driver.old
5) Download the ivtv 106u version to something like /usr/local/src/


using ls- al, i found my kernel-source... file. but the next line, step 4 doesnt work. i did the ls- al for that directory as well. and got
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total 12
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 July 28 22:53 .
drwxr-xr-x 8 root staff 4096 Apr 28 09:53 ..
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Dec 09 2004 driver.old


then i entered mv driver/ driver.old and got
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mv: cannot stat 'driver/': no such file or directory.


but i know driver.old exists, i just found it. im not sure what the mv command does, but im assuming thats part of the problem.

as for
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5) Download the ivtv 106u version to something like /usr/local/src/

how do i go about doing this? assume i have a downloadable url to get the file. just tell me how to put it there. do i use my web browser? wget? a mysterious third option?

thanks for the help so far, im just not out of the woods yet.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 3:18 pm 
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but the next line, step 4 doesnt work.


From your previous messages, you've probably already done it. You mentioned that you had done "lines 1-4" and that only line 2 didn't work. If you did 3 and 4, you've already moved ("mv") the driver directory ("driver/") to the same directory and renamed it ("driver.old"). It's telling you that the subdirectory "driver" doesn't exist, not that "driver.old" doesn't exist.

Whenever you don't know what a command does, you should always "man" that command so you can see if it helps. It doesn't always, but sometimes it does.

If you have a URL that actually includes the ivtv file in it, that will work with wget. Type "wget http://the.url/path/to/the/file"

If you use this page:

http://ivtv.writeme.ch/tiki-index.php?p ... nloadIvyTv

the links to download will refer you to a second page. At the top of that page there are instructions that say something like "if the download doesn't begin, use the following URL." Use that URL with wget, or just visit the download page with Firefox and download it to your user directory. Then change to the root user ("su") and move ("mv") the file to /usr/local/src/ as specified.

I have to say that you should probably check out a beginning Linux intro web page or book. This is basic Linux stuff and unless KnoppMyth works for you out of the box, there will likely be lots more of this ahead of you. Like mjl said above, don't be afraid to just wipe the slate clean and start over. I installed MythTV any number of different times before things started to click.


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...i should have just bought a tivo..


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No one ever said it would be as easy as buying a TiVo.


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kevin rose lied to me!

its ok, im up tot he chalenge. i was able to install a new ivtv driver, but it didnt fix the problem. now its just down to trying new ones. any suggestions for the pvr 250 980? (i know its all over the forums, but i want an uptodate answer, not a 3 month old one)


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