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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 3:09 pm 
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Hello,

First I would like to say THIS FORUM ROCKS! I wouldn't be so far as I am to be able to ask this question without it! My remote works! MythTV actually starts up and has channel data etc etc etc! Thanks!

Unfortunately I am having some VERY strange problems that I am quite positive no one on this forums has ever had before. Also unfortunately, even if they did it's nearly impossible to search for this issue so... well... I hope someone can help.

I had _everything_ working. I was watching tv, using the remote, sound was coming out of my speakers, all was well. So I decided it was time to move the system to the bedroom where it will begin being loved by me and my fiance.

When I did so I all of the sudden had no tv signal! All I got was static (all posts on the forum related to static didn't help). It was just working 2 minutes ago! And I had changed nothing but the TV and the location it was plugged into the wall!

I played a bit with the cables and stuff to make sure there was a signal on the coax and all the cables were good etc, no good.

So I move it back to the computer in the other room, plug it into the spare tv I was using before and now I get NO tv out at all! No static, no mythtv, nothing at all! I changed nothing!!!

I checked some logs and what I found was:

Code:
(II) LoadModule: "ivtvdev"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/ivtvdev_drv.o
(II) Module fbdev: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
        compiled for 4.3.0, module version = 0.1.0
        ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.6
(II) LoadModule: "mouse"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/input/mouse_drv.o
(II) Module mouse: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
        compiled for 4.3.0.1, module version = 1.0.0
        Module class: XFree86 XInput Driver
        ABI class: XFree86 XInput driver, version 0.4
(II) v4l driver for Video4Linux
(II) IVTVDEV: driver for framebuffer: fbdev
(II) Primary Device is: PCI 01:06:0

   *** If unresolved symbols were reported above, they might not
   *** be the reason for the server aborting.

Fatal server error:
Caught signal 11.  Server aborting


In my XF86Config-4 file I have BusID set to "01:08.0" which is what I get with lspci. So I don't know what it's talking about with 01:06:0...

dmesg shows nothing out of the ordinary.

I have tried resetting gdm, rebooting the machine with minor/major changes all with absolutely no luck. Not even 5 minutes after it was working with the tv out but just static on the other tv! I simply couldn't believe it but I checked the tv to make sure it worked again, sure enough it does, I plugged in an xbox into the same composites to make sure it would accept video in (like it did 3 hours ago!), and it does.

This makes NO sense and I'm about to shoot myself. Anyone have an idea? Or two?


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 5:02 pm 
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Open the box up, reseat the cards and make sure nothing else has come loose. Not something you generally see on such a short move, but common enough on machines that have been shipped any distance. It was always the first thing I did with hardware I was installing at some remote location.

If your assembly was sloppy (failure to engage clips and screw things down well) or the case is flimsy and flexed when you moved it, even a short move could do this...


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 5:38 pm 
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Thanks but that isn't the issue. Besides the fact that I work at a local computer shop and do this all day, I did check all the connections :)

I suppose it can't hurt to check again...


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 5:49 pm 
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Well I had no way of knowing if you even knew which screw goes where... :oops:

Unless you're someplace where static is an issue (with the humidity here in the Boston area at the moment thats not anyplace in the Northeastern U.S.) that was my best "moving it made it not go" guess. The only other common cause would be if you had a stray screw or metal particle (yes, I've been bitten by the fact that aluminum is a soft metal) floating around inside the box...


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 6:05 pm 
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Well... I wish I could attribute some environmental issue as the cause.

The airconditioning in my house is rediculously cranked everyday (my parents are psycho) and it's not any more humid in the bedroom than it is outside the bedroom (which is where it originally worked). Then, the fact that it worked outside, then half-ish inside, then not at all outside makes that seem unlikely.

I'm also certain there is nothing strange about the system whatsoever. Everything is assembled to perfection, of that I made sure, as I was trying to minimize vibration and maximize airflow and all that good stuff a 24/7 computer needs.

The strangest thing of all is the message in the XF86 log file being the wrong ID no matter what I set it to in the config... as a matter of fact, even if I set it to what it says (01:06:0) it STILL says "Primary Device is: PCI 01:06:0", even though it's not!


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 6:16 pm 
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Well, taking coals to Newcastle, If you've got access to a spares bin, try swapping the video card...

What does lspci show? You don't maybe have MoBo video that needs to be disabled?


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 9:37 am 
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I have a spares bin, and if I didn't I would have one at the store. But not with a Hauppauge PVR-350 in it! I'm not using the 'video card' which is just a Rage IIc pos I used temporarily while setting up bios/installing.

lspci shows nothing out of the ordinary, it finds the hauppauge and everything. There is no onboard video, I built the system from scratch as a PVR, so the board is straight nForce2, nothing special.

Plus, like I've been saying... I sincerely doubt it's a problem with settings or phyically because it seems to get worse across cold-boots! I know the BIOS isn't just screwing with itself everytime I turn it on, I even plugged a monitor back in to check that too! :cry:


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 8:55 pm 
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Well, a bad CD could cause this and a lot more... You could always try reinstalling... Painful advice but probably worth a shot... I don't even like to think about the other possibilities...


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