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Author:  kmkittre [ Sat Oct 15, 2005 1:56 am ]
Post subject:  Cannot get TV-out to work w/ FX5200

I moved my (working) hardware into a new case (Silverstone LC11, btw), and I cannot get the FX5200 working properly.
hardware:

Biostar M7VIZ
AMD 2600+
GeForce FX5200
PVR 350

Here's what happens. I install as an update, and I go through all of the setup using a monitor (tv out looks like junk). Once everything is set up (I can view everything on the monitor) I try to set the system up to output to the TV. I installed the Nvidia 7174 drivers (even tried the older ones) and after that is done I cannot get an output on my tv or monitor. If I set the driver back to "nv" from "nvidia" and restart I can get it to display on the monitor again but then the TV looks bad. If I start up w/ out the monitor connected the TV goes black. I've been trying everything (even re-installed 3 - 4 times). My lilo.conf is set to vga=normal, my vert refresh is 60, and I've run out of Ideas. Any help is appreciated, thanks.

Is anyone else using this Mobo? Is it possibly a VIA chipset problem?

Author:  gummybear [ Sat Oct 15, 2005 9:13 am ]
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Maybe you should post your XF86Config-4

Author:  tjc [ Sat Oct 15, 2005 12:12 pm ]
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A search should turn up the /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 I use with my FX5200. Possibly on the wiki. http://www.knoppmythwiki.org/index.php?page=XF86ConfigForFX5200HowTo

There are also older ones posted over in Tier 2 Hardware Recommendations which worked with an Nforce2 IGPs "MX4" which are nearly identical. The FX5200 one is essentially a cleaned up version of these.

Author:  kmkittre [ Sat Oct 15, 2005 12:55 pm ]
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I've actually already tried your XF86config-4, tjc.
here are the ones i've tried:

http://www.transmatrix.net/myth/XF86Config-4.tjc
http://www.transmatrix.net/myth/XF86Config-4.out
http://www.transmatrix.net/myth/XF86Config-4.black
http://www.transmatrix.net/myth/XF86Con ... out.sample
http://www.transmatrix.net/myth/XF86Config-4.oldsystem

Is this really where I need to be looking for a problem? I mean on the the XF86Config's i'm using (oldsystem) comes directly from my old, working system. What else could be affecting this? Is there any way for me to verify that the nvidia drivers applied themselves correctly?

Thanks for your help, guys.

Author:  tjc [ Sat Oct 15, 2005 1:31 pm ]
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Since most (95%) of your video configuration is in the /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 file, that is generally the first place to make adjustments. If you're using nvidia-settings the other 5% is in /home/mythtv/.nvidia-settings-rc. BTW - Before I go spelunking through those files which of "mine" did you try? The new one, or the older twinview one?

Looking at the X log file messages in /var/log/XFree86.0.log should tell you more about what is going on. I'm betting that the answer is in there. Don't forget to check /var/log/dmesg and /var/log/messages too.

Did you change anything else in the move to the new case? Have you double checked for any connection whoopsies or potential shorts? Have you introduced a thermal or RF problem?

Author:  kmkittre [ Sat Oct 15, 2005 2:06 pm ]
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In my change to the new case I changed everything except the video card, the capture card, and the hard drives. Thermal should be better now, not worse, and the case is in the same place so I don't think there should be any interference. As far as miss-wiring, I've done it before but everything else seems to work fine so I would be leaning away from that (I can see my bios boot up and the lilo on the tv, the problems do not appear until gdm starts)

Here are my logs, I'm sure you guys will know better than me how to read these:

http://www.transmatrix.net/myth/XFree86.0.log
http://www.transmatrix.net/myth/dmesg
http://www.transmatrix.net/myth/messages

The XF86Config of yours that I used was the same one you provided a link for in your earlier post.

Thanks for the help, tjc, I really appreciate it. This has been real frustrating, especially since I had it working before.

Author:  tjc [ Sat Oct 15, 2005 2:56 pm ]
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Quote:
I moved my (working) hardware into a new case (Silverstone LC11, btw), and I cannot get the FX5200 working properly.

OK, general terminology guideline, when you replace the motherboard you're not moving the same system to a new case, you're building a new system that reuses some of the same components. ;-) From a diagnostic perspective this is a slightly different proposition. ;-) :lol: ;-)

I'll do some spelunking in your posted config files and logs...

Author:  kmkittre [ Sat Oct 15, 2005 3:03 pm ]
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hehe, sorry man. I posted that last night after an exhausted effort and I obviously didn't make myself clear enough. Again, I appreciate your help.

Would I be in a better place if I just tried to install Knoppmyth from scratch on only one drive and add my video files (on hdb1) later? If I did that could I at least restore the database if not anything else so that I didn't lose my recorded shows?

Author:  tjc [ Sat Oct 15, 2005 3:12 pm ]
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Things which I see that concern me:
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(**) NVIDIA(0): Depth 16, (--) framebuffer bpp 16

(Should be 24/32 for good color reproduction)
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(**) NVIDIA(0): Option "TVOutFormat" "COMPOSITE"

Don't you mean SVIDEO?
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(**) NVIDIA(0): Option "SWcursor"

You should definitely comment this out.
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(**) Option "dpms" "true"
(**) NVIDIA(0): DPMS enabled

I'm pretty sure you don't want this either.
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(WW) NVIDIA(0): WAIT (2, 7, 0x8000, 0x00000000, 0x00000de0, 0)

Finally all these waits worry me. I don't see anything like that in my logs.

Author:  kmkittre [ Sat Oct 15, 2005 6:15 pm ]
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Okay, I'll try changing some of those and let you know. I do want composite, not svideo as I have an svideo to composite adapter on.

Author:  kmkittre [ Sat Oct 15, 2005 6:24 pm ]
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FYI also when I restart the gdm it takes a while to stop it...

Author:  kmkittre [ Sat Oct 15, 2005 6:30 pm ]
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Okay, I tried those changes and I'm still getting a black screen. Here is my latest XF86Config and logs:

http://www.transmatrix.net/myth/XF86Config-4.latest
http://www.transmatrix.net/myth/XFree86.0.log
http://www.transmatrix.net/myth/dmesg
http://www.transmatrix.net/myth/messages

Author:  tjc [ Sat Oct 15, 2005 7:00 pm ]
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As I see them...
    - Comment out the ddc module, it doesn't work with TVs and is part of the reason it's slow.
    - Comment out the DRI section it can cause problems.

Everything else looks OK at first glance. I've also got "NoPM" "true" under the server flags.

Author:  kmkittre [ Sat Oct 15, 2005 9:46 pm ]
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Well, It's still not working. I appreciate your attempts at helping tjc.
This just seems odd, I feel like when I was trying to get my tvout to work on my laptop that had a radeon card...

Anyway, I guess I'm going to try and do a fresh install with only one hard drive and see where that gets me... I'll try this same XF86Config-4 file and hope it works.

If that doesn't work where am I? Would buying a new mobo fix these problems/make it easier? If so can someone recommend a good uATX mobo that is compatible with an Athlon 2600+?

If anyone else wants to give this a crack, here are my latest files:

http://www.transmatrix.net/myth/XF86Config-4.latest
http://www.transmatrix.net/myth/XFree86.0.log
http://www.transmatrix.net/myth/dmesg
http://www.transmatrix.net/myth/messages

Author:  tjc [ Sat Oct 15, 2005 11:11 pm ]
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Your TV is NTSC right? And your'e seeing the console text during boot right?

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