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snappca
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Posted: Sun May 15, 2005 7:11 am |
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I'll have to work on my emoticon skills I suppose, it definitely is a bit embarrassing, since if I just knew some of the coooore linux stuff I might have caught that one myself. Anywho, I'm sure it'll come, I've spent the past couple of days trying to work through the MythTV install on a desktop and a Xandros 3 install on my laptop.....pleased to say that I don't have a single Windows box in the house now. Anywho....
tjc wrote: Get it working the easiest way first, back that up, and then explore. Someobody has a script for setting up a PVR-350 as your display driver posted if you look. By backing up, I'm assuming you were talking about the entire OS.....is there some fancy script to run that does that? tjc wrote: Usually all I do is run the install-nvidia-XXXX-debian.sh script and drop in my XF86Config-4 file.
When I type install-nv<tab><tab> it pops up two different scripts:
install-nvidia-6629-debian.sh
install-nvidia-7174-debian.sh
How do I know which one to run? Also this certainly sounds like a recommendation to use the nVidia card as my S-Video output, which is fine with me. As for the XF86Config-4 file, I'm assuming that's just finalizing the specifics on resolution and whatnot right?
As for the forum, this has been the fastest turnaround I've ever experienced, especially with something as complex as MythTV. So thanks again.
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tjc
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Posted: Sun May 15, 2005 11:19 am |
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snappca wrote: tjc wrote: Get it working the easiest way first, back that up, and then explore. Someobody has a script for setting up a PVR-350 as your display driver posted if you look. By backing up, I'm assuming you were talking about the entire OS.....is there some fancy script to run that does that? Main menu -> knoppmyth -> backup or from the command line: Code: /usr/local/bin/mythbackup Be warned that if you do a restore you'll lose the DB entyries for any programs you've recorded since the last backup! snappca wrote: When I type install-nv<tab><tab> it pops up two different scripts:
install-nvidia-6629-debian.sh install-nvidia-7174-debian.sh
How do I know which one to run? The newer one if it works for you, but given your video card you're probably better off trying the older one. The 7xxx series seems to not work for older stuff. snappca wrote: Also this certainly sounds like a recommendation to use the nVidia card as my S-Video output, which is fine with me. It'll probably be easier to set up. However search for a recent thread by "bondo" who is a newbie who just got his PVR-350 output working. snappca wrote: As for the XF86Config-4 file, I'm assuming that's just finalizing the specifics on resolution and whatnot right?
With luck... Definitely search for examples by people with a similar video card.
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jens
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Posted: Wed May 25, 2005 9:46 pm |
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I am sorry to barge in on this conversation but I too am having difficulty with my backend startup. The box was working fine for the better part of a month and today we had a power outage. The computer went down in a controlled manner but when I started things back up I got the backend error message. I checked the processes on my Knoppmyth box and mysqld, mythfrontend and mythbackend all seem to be running. This only leaves me with the possibility of an IP error. Going thru setup/general, I see only one point to enter anything remotely resembling an IP number and that is in the "host name" field. It is set to the default it has always been, "localhost". I am kind of stuck at this point and would welcome any suggestions you might have.
Jens
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cesman
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Posted: Wed May 25, 2005 11:25 pm |
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jens wrote: I am sorry to barge in on this conversation but I too am having difficulty with my backend startup. Ok. jens wrote: I checked the processes on my Knoppmyth box and mysqld, mythfrontend and mythbackend all seem to be running. So, which is it?! What exactly doesn't work?
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jens
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Posted: Thu May 26, 2005 7:41 am |
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cesman wrote: So, which is it?! What exactly doesn't work?
When Knoppmyth starts up it starts correctly but if I want to watch TV, look at previous recordings or do most everything else it complains that no backend is found. It suggests to check if the backend is running (which it seems to be) and suggests to verify that the correct IP is being used.
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cesman
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Posted: Thu May 26, 2005 8:32 am |
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The backend must be dying for a reason. Have you checked the log (in /var/log/mythtv/)? When you run mythtv-setup, under the first option General. That is where the IPs are set. If you only have one backend, leave (ensure) it is 127.0.0.1.
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brendan
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Posted: Thu May 26, 2005 8:40 am |
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Is the box configured for a static IP address or is it assigned via DHCP?
If DHCP, the IP address may have changed and you may need to reconfigure myth.
-brendan
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jens
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Posted: Thu May 26, 2005 2:43 pm |
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cesman wrote: The backend must be dying for a reason. Have you checked the log (in /var/log/mythtv/)? When you run mythtv-setup, under the first option General. That is where the IPs are set. If you only have one backend, leave (ensure) it is 127.0.0.1.
Looking at /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log shows an apparently running (and recording and transcoding) backend. There is a qt error but it appears in all the old logs as well. It appears that the only issue is the frontend connecting to the backend.
Now, talking about IP's .... in the menu under utilities/setup, setup, general there is no (apparent) place to enter the ip number of the backend. The closest thing I see is a field for "host name" which is set to localhost. is this the field you refer to ?
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jens
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Posted: Thu May 26, 2005 2:46 pm |
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brendan wrote: Is the box configured for a static IP address or is it assigned via DHCP?
If DHCP, the IP address may have changed and you may need to reconfigure myth.
-brendan
The box is on a static IP but I believe it was changed at one point to resolve a conflict. No changes were made between shutting down the working myth setup and restarting it though. Where do I change the IP of the backend ? Both backend and frontend are on the same box and the "host name" field in the setup (see my other post) is saying 'localhost'.
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jens
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Posted: Thu May 26, 2005 2:56 pm |
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Some additional info: setting the "host name" field to 127.0.0.1 or it's actual ip of 192.168.0.5 results in a failure to reach the first myth screen. As soon as I enter 'localhost' everything seems to work until you select a menu item that needs backend access.
Jens
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jens
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Posted: Thu May 26, 2005 8:01 pm |
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Thanks to all who have made suggestions trying to help me out. I have things working again. For what it's worth, the answer was totally non-intuitive and is really something that should be fixed in myth (or knoppmyth ... not sure where it originates). What I had to do was to exit myth, bring up a shell window and run myth-install. There is a configuration screen that comes up and in two places it asks for the IP of the myth backend which was incorrect in my system. After I corrected this setting I restarted and everything was fine again.
For the life of me I can't figure out why the configuration is hidden to the average user. There is a setup option in the myth menu - why not stick all this configuration stuff in there. Even if it is under and 'advanced configuration' tab it would easily be noticed. The other thing I did not see in my search was the config file in /etc that would hold all this setup info .... something that is pretty well standard with any app (and myth uses it for 'some' of it's setup).
Anyway, I am finished ranting and since my myth box is back in service I am a happy camper again.
Jens
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brendan
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Posted: Fri May 27, 2005 1:31 am |
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jens wrote: Thanks to all who have made suggestions trying to help me out. I have things working again. For what it's worth, the answer was totally non-intuitive and is really something that should be fixed in myth (or knoppmyth ... not sure where it originates).
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For the life of me I can't figure out why the configuration is hidden to the average user. There is a setup option in the myth menu - why not stick all this configuration stuff in there.
Well, it's because it is a server/client architecture: your problem was with the server ("backend") which requires running mythtv-setup, not the client (which has its own configuration). I suppose I should have been more explicit in my original response.
-brendan
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jens
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Posted: Fri May 27, 2005 9:25 am |
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brendan wrote: Well, it's because it is a server/client architecture: your problem was with the server ("backend") which requires running mythtv-setup, not the client (which has its own configuration). I suppose I should have been more explicit in my original response.
-brendan
Actually this particular setup item seems to be a frontend item as it configures where to find the backend .....
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brendan
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Posted: Fri May 27, 2005 11:23 am |
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jens wrote: Actually this particular setup item seems to be a frontend item as it configures where to find the backend .....
Jens
Hmm, I'd assumed the setting was about the backend needing to be told what IP address it should bind to and therefore respond on (since a machine can have multiple network cards and mutiple IPs). I guess I should learn more about the settings myself.
-brendan
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steeve
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Posted: Fri May 27, 2005 11:31 am |
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I just went through this same episode, unable to connect to master backend. 'Bout made have nervous breakdown. I was trying to build a temporary KnoppMyth Backend out of old hardware until I finish building the monster that will become the permanent backend (ASUS PC-DL, twin Xeon 2.4GHz, fast SCSI boot drive, etc.). My solution was found by moving the eth0 module higher in the module loading order in /etc/modules ( http://mysettopbox.tv/phpBB2/viewtopic. ... light=eth1).
Two bad things were happening:
1) eth0 was being assigned to my firewire card, thus neutering my backend.
2) if I then tried to configure my DCT6200 as a tuner, mythbackend would refuse to start, giving an error "firewire not compiled-in, recompile mythtv".
I haven't the skills to "recompile mythtv"...honestly, Cecil and Dale have spoilt us rotten. KnoppMyth is just too easy to install and configure, even if there are times when the install isn't perfect.
Look, guys, just keep up the great work, ok?!
-Bob K.
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