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datobin1
PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 10:24 am 
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Has anyone tried them yet?


I'm going to try them tonight on one of my frontends and see how it goes.


http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_disp ... -9755.html
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snaproll
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 7:36 am 
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Yes. No noticable difference fron 1.9746...
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neutron68
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 11:33 am 
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Yes. No noticable difference fron 1.9746...

Is it better or worse? How is it better or worse?

Eric

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The picture quality and functionality are fine (on HD with a Nvidia 6200).
I was trying to implement an Xvmc setup to 'play frontend' on a low powered processor (2.0 ghz testbed) and 9746 worked fine for all video display purposes, (with all the different processing and deinterlace tried..) [I settled on using libmpeg2 and kernal for 'standard purposes]
..But I couldn't get it to show a processor load drop in xvmc (or see the black OSD..) [May be due to hardware..]

So figuring wth.. I installed the 9755 driver...
I figured the new driver might work -or- repeat of the install procedure might pick up a 'dropped stitch'...
The results are exactly the same as far as video displaying- excellent picture. & xvmc still doesn't go into black OSD or show any processor offload.. But that's why I experiment..

Summed up there's probably no reason to expend the effort and possibility of a 'dropped stitch' for the new driver if the 9746 is working for you...
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neutron68
PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 10:24 am 
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Thanks for the details snaproll.

How are you stopping xwindows so you can update the nvidia drivers?

All the forum posts that say something like "all you need to do is type "init 3" as root" are simply wrong. I tried them and they DO NOT stop xwindows.

The only method of stopping xwindows is to disable it by renaming the /usr/bin/startx file and rebooting. THEN xwindows won't run.
This method is very klunky and there MUST be an easier way to stop it.

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Clunky, yes, but it works & that's how I did it (renaming, & renaming back..) :)
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tjc
PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 11:09 am 
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neutron68 wrote:
All the forum posts that say something like "all you need to do is type "init 3" as root" are simply wrong. I tried them and they DO NOT stop xwindows.

The only method of stopping xwindows is to disable it by renaming the /usr/bin/startx file and rebooting. THEN xwindows won't run.
This method is very klunky and there MUST be an easier way to stop it.

Have you tried the method documented in the R5E50 Upgrade Hints?
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To stop X entirely you can drop to single user mode using "telinit 1".

After doing that you can stop it with "pkill xinit" and it will stay stopped.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 2:27 pm 
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Oops wrong thread.


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neutron68
PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 2:53 pm 
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tjc wrote:
Have you tried the method documented in the R5E50 Upgrade Hints?

You mean this?
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2.2) GDM is gone and won't be coming back. Rather than using "/etc/init.d/gdm restart" to restart the frontend from the commnad line you can now use "pkill xinit". To stop X entirely you can drop to single user mode using "telinit 1" at the console and then kill xinit.

Yes, I did try that. It does NOT work.
After you log in as root and type "telinit 1", a bunch of services are stopped and then after you type "kill xinit", you will get an error message back:
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-bash: kill: xinit: arguments must be process or job IDs

I believe I just found an error in the Upgrade Hints.

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Greg Frost
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I believe that should be
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pkill xinit
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tjc
PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 5:48 pm 
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neutron68 wrote:
I believe I just found an error in the Upgrade Hints.

While an error in the upgrade hints wouldn't be anything new (they're very much a work in progress) in this case Greg is correct and you're being too literal.
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and then kill xinit.

Is just a text description, and not a command (the actual command was already given above). This is part of the reason I mark commands in green...
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telinit 1
pkill xinit

BTW - Yes I'm aware that using red and green risks running into the most common type of color blindness, but I tried to pick colors that were the most readable and which will still show up as a different intensity for folks with that problem.
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neutron68
PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 6:59 pm 
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tjc wrote:
While an error in the upgrade hints wouldn't be anything new (they're very much a work in progress) in this case Greg is correct and you're being too literal.
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and then kill xinit.

Now that you know there is confusing text in the R5E50 how-to, I ask that you please change it so it is clear. It is easy to confuse Linux students like me.

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neutron68
PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 2:17 pm 
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I got 1.0-9755 loaded. I had to use the "rename the /usr/bin/startx file" method to get stop and disable x. This is the case because you can't load/compile the nvidia driver module in telinit1 mode.

In the end, I don't notice any improvements from previous version. The good news is that I don't notice any new problems. :)

Eric

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snaproll
PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 3:08 pm 
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neutron68 wrote:
In the end, I don't notice any improvements from previous version. The good news is that I don't notice any new problems. :)

Eric


[Ahem] ....I think someone said that two weeks ago.... :lol:
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neutron68
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snaproll wrote:
[Ahem] ....I think someone said that two weeks ago.... :lol:

Yep, I know you did. I'm just providing another data point, and standing shoulder to shoulder with you, man. :)

Eric

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