In light of the new host and the approaching two year anniversary of the wiki I am planning on some updates. Read on if you would like to help out.

Use this thread for any discussions on what you would like to see in the improved wiki. I am particularly interested to see if people would like to have a login. It would fight wikispam (doesn't seem to be a huge problem with the checkbox) and it would allow everyone to see who made changes to pages, as well as give each user a page for their information.

Also I am not really an artist, so If anyone wanted to create logo's or a site mockups that would be great too. Also discussions of link button search etc placement for best usability would be appropriate and appreciated.

Thanks again for everyones support. This is not an upgrade that is planned to happen overnight. I plan to have much discussion and probably a few polls, and the fact that I really don't have tons of time to actually get things implemented, but hopefully through the process we can create a better resource.

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Xsecrets

Almost two years.... Wow. Where does the time goes? I like the idea of logins.

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cesman

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yeah I wasn't even really sure when it started, because it was on my machine at home for a while, but when I was moving it I looked at the page creation date for the first page, and it was Jun 2004. I was really surprised.

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Xsecrets

Well first, this team has done great work! Thank you your time and input.
Some of this comes from being a newbie to the KnoppMyth project.

1) I think Logins would be a great addition. Then you would know who changed a page or added information.

2) If we could add a descriptor that "This works on version or Versions" or "these are the steps for Version...

I know that second one is a lot to ask, but I have found in searching through there are times I follow through on a set of instructions and find that my version is different. Especially since I am new and using 5a30.1 Some of the info is dated.

Thanks again for all the great work so far. I hope you folks continue the great effort.

Regards!

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If there were logins, could they be taken from the forum db? I think that level of integration would be good in terms of attributing credit for entries etc

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I also support the login idea. Along the same vein as the version idea above - maybe archive (or somehow indicate) items from past releases. I have edited several items in the wiki and am very careful to note what works with which release (or try to anyway...).

Also a simple(r) index - one page based on topic and/or release.

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nbdwt73

another +1 vote for logins If its possible to somehow use the forum logins aswell that would be awesome!

Yeah, I sure like the idea of having a common login database for both the forum & the wiki.
Thanks for all your good work, Xsecrets.

I agree with shared user database being the preffered, but if not possible then seperate database would be fine.

Another suggestion is an associated mysettopbox topic assoicated with each WIKI howto guide. Some of the HOWTO guides have become confusing with newbies posting "I did step 2 but don't work" notes all over the guide. An associated topic could help community members get issues resolved and the HOWTO author(s) then rewrite guide if applicible.

Last suggestion is ability to post higher quality pics/screenshots. Last time I tried to upload a pic on a guide it reduced the quality of the pic.

This would be rather difficult. We can make a suggestion that people put links in, but I don't see how we could do any real association.

I don't think I have anything that reduces picture quality, however there is a 50k or so upload limit. I could change that to 100k or so on the new host, I won't go much over that for obvious abuse reasons, but 100k jpeg, png or gif should be plenty. If it really is allowing the upload and then reducing the quality let me know and I'll look into it to see if there is some sort of resize option I've missed.

I'll look into the shared login thing. There are some addons for the wiki I will be moving to that allow shared logins with a couple of other forums, so I could probably take that and alter it to work with phpbb, then I'll just have to work out the db access with cesman. (I imagine we won't want to mess with this till the new server gets in place.)

The only thing about that is I don't think I would want to write to the forum db, so I would have a select only user, which would mean that everyone would have to register on the forum before they could post to the wiki. What does everyone think of this? I just don't want to loose contributions because it was too much of a hastle.

Also does anyone have any suggestions/ideas about usability or anything else unrelated to logins?

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Xsecrets

I have issue with using the logins from the forum on the wiki. While the idea is a good one, folks signed up with me to use the forum. I'm entrusted with thier personal information not Xsecrets (not that I dont' trust X). It would simply be wrong for me to give this infomation out to anyone without everyone's approval.

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cesman

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I agree with cesman. It is a very good idea, but he can't share the user db. What could be done without too much difficulty is for a link be put in the phpbb 'profile' page to allow forum users to sign up at kn'wiki site. This would mean the username is carried in the link, esuring usernames are reserverd for forum users.

Excuse me if I'm overlooking the obvious and I have no idea on the details on this, but from a conceptual point of view, would it not be possible to merely query the forum db (from the wiki) to authenticate the user? No data is being shared as the input is coming from the user. The forum db just authenticates it. From a privacy point of view its the same as logging in to the forum. This would assume an API into the forum db to allow external sites to authenticate against it ...

I guess there is an added hassle factor here, but I would guess that 99% of people who are likely to post to the wiki have already signed up for the forum, especially since guest access has been disabled. And if someone is having problems with wiki pages then the forum is probably a better place than editing the wiki.

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It is the principal of the matter.

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cesman

When the source is open, the possibilities are endless!

Funny, I thought it was the interest.