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PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 12:25 am 
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Unless I missed something, I'd suspect your real problem is just a confiuguration issue in the Monitor and Screen configuration sections of your xorg.conf file. A different version is likley to have the same issues. Learning enough about X to fiddle with those sections isn't quite as easy as falling off a log, but it's not all that hard either. A mode line describes timings for the card to paint the screen, but for a normal TV 999/1000 you can just use one of several canned versions instead of having to tweak at it. A lot of TVs don't like some of the ones used in the big catch-all list, but setting more restrictive values for the HorizSync and VertRefresh frequerncies and trimming the Modeline list will usually cure that.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 12:38 am 
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thanks for the pointer, I will definitely read up more on modelines.

As I am awaiting the arrival of my HD capture card I just decided to try my old MX 440 card with SVIDEO to my old Sony tube TV. The is a multistandard TV, I bought it when I moved to Canada so that I could use my UK or US/Canada equipment. As such it *should* stand more chance of working with what I throw at it, having said that it does still need to be valid NTSC, PAL or SECAM. This setup is only temporay, IF the capture card can capture the unencrypted QAM from my cable provider I am looking at investing in a much newer and faster video card.

I will play about with xorg.conf before I abandon R5E50. I have seen a lot of posts about this topic, both for the old gdm and xorg configurations, hoefully I can find something in those posts which will help me,

Kevin


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 1:45 am 
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i dont mean to get all windows on this thread. but im a member of the right click world to install a new hardware device. Im wondering if there is any good step by step of what i need to do for whitepines directions on page 1 i tried two times and never did get the drivers installed.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 10:53 am 
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Actually I quite like having the flexibility of a configuration file, but a gui based utility from the KnoppMyth desktop would be incredibly useful especially for novices like myself. Actually a friend told me about the following tool which he used (with MythTV) over a year of ago. I have no idea if it would work within the current gdm KnoppMyth environment. I hesitate to recommend this.

http://sourceforge.net/projects/nv-tv-out

Unfortunatley it is only for Nvidia and from the release notes it shows that it was last updated for the 1.0-4349 Nvidia driver so it is quite old. There are also lots of posts in the nv-tv-out discussion forum about it not working with the later cards, so it doesn't look like an option. :(

Kevin


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 1:10 pm 
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spudgunman,

I don't have a functional R5E box running anymore, as I got fed up with xorg and the lack of properly set up kernel sources. Therefore, I cannot eleborate on the steps I mentioned previously. :( Sorry! :)

On the bright side, downgrading to R5B7 has lightened my CPU load considerably. The nVidia drivers installed without a hitch, suspend works great, and XvMC worked right out of the box! :D I am now compiling MythTV 0.20-fixes directly from SVN. I personally think that the best choice (unless you need features added after R5B7) is to install R5B7 and upgrade MythTV to 0.20-fixes by compiling from SVN source, as directed on the Wiki. It is much simpler than recompiling the kernel and all the other stuff that would have to be done to get R5E working.

At least this is the case for me and my ancient hardware (P4 1.6Ghz)! :D

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 8:51 pm 
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I was able to get the newer drivers (v 9631) installed with alot less hassle with the kernel source by using the provided install-nvidia-debian.sh (it is in /usr/local/bin/). There are just two fixes I needed to make. First of all you should download the kernel source according to cecil's instructions (http://mysettopbox.tv/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=13281).
Now for the two fixes.
First, the install script expects the source to be at /usr/src/kernel-source-2.6.18-chw-13 so I added a symlink
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ln -s /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.18-chw-13 /usr/src/kernel-source-2.6.18-chw-13

Second, the script was thinking that the unpacking of the driver had failed when it didn't so in /usr/local/bin/install-nvidia-debian.sh find the code fragment that says -lt "9629" and change it to -ne "9629".

With those two changes I was able to do
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install-nvidia-debian.sh 1.0-9631 -force
and the script worked and I had new drivers without having to recompile the entire kernel.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 9:52 pm 
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cool! thanks for the info.

First though I need to check my xorg.conf, this is something I probably needed to do before I went bashing my head against a wall trying to install the newest driver.
Then if that fails I will try the newer 96xx driver, and if that fails I will switch to R5B7.

Lots of options and lots of things to try. Thanks everyone for their help,

Kevin


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 10:31 pm 
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Sorry... spoke too soon. I think the script created new modules but I don't think it fully installed the new driver. I will keep you posted. :oops:


Last edited by jbm2131 on Thu Jan 11, 2007 12:17 am, edited 1 time in total.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 11:54 pm 
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As I mentioned, I am trying to figure out if there is a problem with my xorg.conf. So far I have not been able to find anything wrong. I would like to post a small extract from it to this thread in the hope someone will spot the problem, however I can't find a way of easily getting it across to my windows machine. I would like to do this so I can more easily post to this forum.

Simple question: what is the best/easiest way to transfer a small file to my PC?

I did have the idea to set up the webmail address for my service provider in the 'Web' area for MythTV. From there I am able to go to my webmail page, BUT the keyboard is not recognized properly and what I type on the keyboard does not appear on the screen, very weird.

Should I try to install some sort of mail program on my MythTV box? What about installing Firefox, is that an option on my MythTV box?

I did look for regular ‘mail’ program, as I am used to using it the Linux boxes at work but couldn’t find it on my MythTV box,

Thanks,

Kevin


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 11:04 am 
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Winscp ssh file transfer program works great


Craig


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 11:37 am 
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cool thanks for the updated tips whitepines / jbm2131 i will try them out this evening.

as to bbear

auto start samba with –
Code:
update-rc.d samba defaults

edit /etc/samba smb.conf for file shares

and if you dont know about webmin
http://knoppmythwiki.org/index.php?page=WebminHowTo


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 8:01 pm 
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bbear wrote:
Simple question: what is the best/easiest way to transfer a small file to my PC?

Via ssh/scp or a thumbdrive would be my recommendations. I keep recommending this and people keep seeming to glaze over, but if you haven't set up remote access to your KM box from whatever you're using for a desktop PC, you really need to do it. For MS-Windows users installing putty and winscp or the like will make your life so much, much easier you'll heave a sigh of relief and wonder why you waited so long.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 8:57 pm 
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thanks to everyone for your help.

I have used putty and winscp before on other systems, so I will probably try one of these first. I just wasn't familiar with debian or KM to know if the necessary programs would be running on my KM box.

BTW, what port do I use, is it the same as I recall seeing documented somewhere for webmin, i.e. 10000 ?

Kevin


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 9:33 pm 
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Just tried the default (port 22) with winscp ... works a treat!

thanks,


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 11:11 pm 
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Well I figured out why I wasn't getting any output to my tv-out, I was missing the 'TWINVIEW' section from my config file.

I am now getting output to my monitor and my TV. Getting some strange things, like it appears that I have two separate X sessions, one to each display but at least I am getting somewhere now :D

Kevin


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