DVD Please, please, please.
I paid $29.99 for mine. http://www.newegg.com/product/product.a ... 6827136108

It worked right out of the box for me.
I haven't had it long, but I've burned a few CD's (not DVDs) so far with no problems.

Would it be possible to have multiple CD-sized ISOs as well as/instead of a DVD ISO? I know other distributions offer this, with the core OS on the first disk and the "extras" (kernel source, applications, what have you) in the additional images.

When I was on less stable Internet connections I opted for multiple ISOs vs. the "One Big Image" - easier to manage download-wise. Just a thought...

DVD burners can be found for $30 these days. It's certainly worth it to add feature to KM.

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Gong to a DVD .iso would seem the logical next step for KnoppMyth. Just a quick browse of the forums adds credence to that argument.

tjc's comment of "Setting up an install CD is already an excercise in getting 40 lbs. of stuff in a 20 lb. sack" sums it up nicely.

So, Cecil, what's it going to take to convince you? Cash? Hookers? (that always works for me!)

Thanks for your hard work!

-sTv

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Tuners (Analog): PVR-250
Tuners (Digital): DCT-6200 Motorola Cable Box, HDHomeRun (OTA + cable)

If making the ISO a DVD eases the creation of the KM release, then by ALL means DO IT. Cecil has enough to do without worrying about trying to squeeze under a 700M limit.

Following closely to the concept of KnoppMyth, it makes it much easier to set up a KM box if everything is included -- expecially for Myth novices. Since I also use nVidia drivers, I appreciate the kernel source being included with the distro.

Move on to the current century -- ditch CDROM and go to DVD distros.

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i'd be fine with a dvd. I'd also be happy if apt-get kernel-source worked easily. I don't have a dvd-rom in all my front-ends but i could get one cheaply enough. Way in the future though it may make sense for a netinstall and with a usb-key or network boot.

Works for me... Worth it for the source!

Snake

There are currently _no_ plans release for a DVD version.

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When the source is open, the possibilities are endless!

A bigger sack?

-sTv

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CPU: 1.8 GHz
RAM: 2Gb
Drives: 500Gb IDE; IDE DVD-RW
Mobo: eMachines
Tuners (Analog): PVR-250
Tuners (Digital): DCT-6200 Motorola Cable Box, HDHomeRun (OTA + cable)

I don't understand... Why should KnoppMyth be released on a DVD? If I can fit everything that a PVR needs on a CD, why use a DVD? Why bloat the distro with useless software that has no place on a DVR?

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When the source is open, the possibilities are endless!

TJC posted that you had to eliminate the source code from the R5E50 CD because you ran out of room! Was he incorrect?

The goal of Knoppmyth to be a ready-to-go distro that "just works" on most PC hardware is admirable.

The reality of Knoppmyth is that every release needs fixes and updates by the users.

Thus, the users need the source code to be installed in their systems so they don't have to recompile the kernel in order to update drivers and packages.

So, if you have run out of room on a one CD-ROM installer, then you need to move to a 2 CD-ROM installer or one DVD-ROM installer. Right?

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Given the size of the ISO, there is plenty of room for the kernel source. I choose not include the source. The say that with every release the user must fix something is wrong. Sure, issues or two may exist but we try an eliminate those issue between releases. Up until started working 12 hours a day two weeks ago, I think we've addressed every issue in tjc's upgrade thread. KnoppMyth may not be perfect, but I try. One of the things I'll always try to do is keep the size of the ISO as small as possible.

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cesman

When the source is open, the possibilities are endless!

Actually I believe my original comment was more general. The source code was _one_ of the things Cecil left out, as _part_ of his house cleaning when he started from scratch with the R5Exx series. If you compare the contents of R5D1 to R5E50 you'll find R5E50 is far leaner and more focused, while including more really relevant stuff.

I think Cecil will forgive a minor breach of "the first rule of testing (is that you don't talk about testing)" for me to say you can building kernel modules (specifically the latest ivtv drivers) with an out of the box install of the current testing version. No adding the kernel source, no apt-get-ing kernel headers, no fiddling with symlinks, it just plain works.

You should really use bittorrent, then. It addresses this problem for you.

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Speaking personally, I have had to fix or update at least one thing in every Knoppmyth release. That is a fact, not an accusation.
The fixes are most often nvidia video driver updates. These drivers require the kernel source code to update. In releases prior to R5E50, the source code was included as part of the install and driver updating was much easier - not a "click here to update", but much easier. With the removal of the source, R5E50 gave users another hurdle to climb over in our quest to have a perfectly operating PVR. I had no idea how important it was until it was gone.

Please, choose to add the kernel source back in for future releases.

The delivery mechanism of the source isn't that important. If you are dead-set against updating to DVDs, then perhaps you could make a 2 CD installer or give the user a choice during the install process: "Would you like the installer to download and include the kernel source and headers on your system? Y/N"
Let it be known, that the requirement to keep the releases small enough to fit on a CD is your requirement, alone. The user community is clearly ready for a move to DVDs, if that improves our lives.

I'm sorry to hear your job is chewing you up and spitting you out, as of late. I know from experience that is not fun. I sincerely hope that the work load eases for you soon.

I thank you for your work on KnoppMyth. I will continue to donate periodically. Please, keep in mind, that decisions you make, effect the users.

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