I wasn't able to get to this yesterday. Too many other things needed doing.

Right, before I carry on and as I forgot to mention in response to Graysky's earlier suggestion: telinit 0 shut my mythbox down, as expected. However, this worked when I tried it first time from a ssh shell from my laptop.

Locally from a keyboard plugged into the mythbox, I get the same problem as before - tells me it's shutting down and sits there fans spinning. Same message as earlier.

Now that is weird. I thought (and I looked on google and everything) that run level "telinit 0" was shutdown and nothing else.

Strangely the reboot command does work. From what I'm reading though 'reboot' is just a symbolic link to 'halt' which is also giving me problems.

As for halt, shutdown and other ways of shutting it down...

First run 'halt' ---- Shutdown nice and cleanly.
Second run 'halt' ---- Shutdown does not complete and hangs.
Third run 'halt' ---- Shutdown does not complete and hangs.

So halt does not work.

At this point I am wondering if something has got corrupted somewhere, or my initial install disk was a bad burn. In preparation I'm re-down loading the .iso

Hey Cliff did you get anywhere?

I'm going to look further into how to apply the apci -force thing (or other options a la alien) any other suggestions welcome.

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Btw... Is there any way of seeing if anything is left running that might be stopping shutdown or halt? I'm looking at top and FahCore_82.exe is taking 100% of a cpu (there are two cores here). This process is folding at home but I might be that that is interfering?
The error shutdown message only refers to 1 cpu going down, surely I should see two?
I am just guessing atm.

edit. Nah killing it did nothing.

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Did an auto upgrade. And the same problems. Though I'm wondering if there was some items carried over that were undesirable. Unfortunately I don't have time today, or this week to copy everything over to my second hdd and do another fresh install. However, I was reading something over on the ubuntu forums about a similar problem and hey were complaining about services not being setup correctly. However, I think they were mostly talking about running ubuntu on laptops, so I'm not convinced it is quite the same thing.

Right, must get on. I'll check back this evening.

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Did you see and follow Cecil's note in the R5.5 Hints thread about enabling the acpi daemon to be started at boot? Given that the system shutdown successfully the first time, this is the most likely cause of your problem.

Hey tjc,
I applied it, but it appears not to work.
Thanks anyway.

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You do realize that it doesn't take affect until the next time you boot right? To get immediate (but temporary without the other) relief try:

Hi tjc, I can't do any more on this atm as I'm now out of town. Before I left I ran the command you suggested: This had the desired effect: the acpid deamon started. Interestingly, I had already insereted the fix cecil had suggested and had rebooted several times. It appears that the deamon isn't starting at boot, because if a deamon is running it tells you usually (doesn't it?). Anyway, it looks promising.
I will look into this further next weekend when I'm back at home.

Many thanks
Chris

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No, sorry, I haven't spent time on it recently.

I too have seen that reboot works fine, but shutdown fails. Sorry don't
remember any further details.

I kind of expect that adding something like "acpi=force" to my lilo.conf
will fix it though.

Here is the ?old? line out of my R5F27 /etc/lilo.conf:

Here is what I changed it to in R5F27:

Looks like I removed the "apm=power-off" and added the "acpi=force"
I wouldn't do any more than that if I were you.

To be a little safer, you may want to set up a test boot stanza for this.
I don't expect that it will make your machine unbootable, but it might
be good to waste the time and be safe rather than sorry.

Don't forget to run: as root after making the changes.

Let us know if it helps.

Cliff

Adding "acpi=force" to the "append=" options in /etc/lilo.conf
and running "lilo" (all as root) has definitely fixed this issue
(reboot works, but shutdown never powers off) for me.
R5.5 does not have an "apm=" option in the "append=" section
so there is nothing to remove, just add "acpi=force".

I verified that this is what fixed it too. When I take it out, the
problem comes back.

acpi=force also fixed my LIRC "remote only gets one in 30
presses" issue.

Cliff

Hey Cliff,
I should be back home on Sunday, so will have a go with your suggestions. Will post my results.
Regards
Chris

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If you find a work-around that works for you, feel free to update the wiki troubleshooting section.

http://www.knoppmythwiki.org/index.php?page=MythWelcome

It seems ACPI in general doesn't work out-of-the-box for many MBs. A growing collection of possible "tweaks" would be useful.

Cheers,

Allen

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Hi,
Now to this problem. Hopefully I've understood Cliff's instructions, so before I change anything, I'm going to ask for conformation!
My current append line in /etc/lilo.conf reads:


I intend to alter the above line to read:


Is this correct?

Thanks

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Well, didn't solve the problem.
I have a feeling that by starting the deamon with I get complete shutdowns. However, I haven't had the time yet to run a few shutdown cycles to test.

Will post back later. Or tomorrow. Time is very tight at the moment.

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Well, despite my hopes, the /etc/init.d/apcid start does not help solve this problem.

The only other thing I can think of is other options for the apci= in the append section.

Will look for some options (I know alien referred some earlier) and see what that brings.

Any more ideas, please suggest away.

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Any luck with this? My friend's old P3-500 box does the same thing: if you issue a shutdown -h now command, it just stops the HD and displays "system halted" on the screen.

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