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PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2005 1:41 pm 
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As AliG would put it...

Restecpa!

Well I guess I have to look for the obscure a little better. I work with tech manuals so Iam kind of used to...
This
Now this
now that
DO NOT DEVIATE IN ANYWAY

I can fully appertiate the desire to not be sued!

I guess I am on to looking for how to get xineHD going.

Has to be up before House comes one tonight!


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 Post subject: 2 months no joy...
PostPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 6:40 pm 
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Had to back off this as I was making little progress. Tried dooing a gentoo install and that was worse.

Well I guess I have to go back to knoppmyth... start all over again. Needed my music server so I set that back up for the time being.

So lets see... last time through...

After the echo modprobe things...

Here is what did work.
DVD playback
Music Rip and Playback
MythWeather

DVD rip never worked
HDTV tunning from the 3000 didn't work
Way off from getting the Svideo on the card to work for input??? Don't even know if it can.
Never got S-Video to work for output

Is there a great Do this now this not this somwhere... without the gaps?

Any help would be great.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 11:41 am 
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Although there are great doc's all over this site and others about making stuff work, I'm not sure that there is a 1 to 1 guide for you.

Unfortunately, it is a bit (maybe a lot) frustrating for a beginner. I personally wouldn't call it easy. It takes time and effort.

However, look at it this way. In getting this to work, you end up learning quite a bit about Linux, networking, how TV works, and a lot of other stuff.

Try to take small steps with this project and get one part to work and then move on to the other (which sounds like what you are doing). Do a lot of searching here and read the articles. Read up at the Wiki also.

When you are done, you may realize that you can help others avoid the pitfalls you ran into with your hardware. Come back and do a write up. This is how a community supported project works.

Finally, when you get it working, it feels great, and you have something that not everyone else can get unless they are willing to go through the same process. The payoff is worth it.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 6:15 am 
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Snapper...

I agree with you about learning about everything. The problem I am having is I try to follow the directions and they are incomplete or sometimes outright wrong. This kills my leasning curve because I can not see where the error happened. If steps are missing and it doesn't work... well then how do I know???

For instance.
I tired FC4 and right at the point where you are working on the partioning there is a problem with the jfs format. There does not seem to be an option to use it there. Ended up using ext3 and labaling video as per directions. Installed yum file and did update. Result... only myth weather works.

Used knoppmyth. Network card not detected. Came here and asked for help was tought about modprobe sk98lin.
Had to come back to find out about echo.
Came back and found out cryptically (I understand why now) how to get DVD playback.
Can't seem to find how to get DVD rip to work.
Plus I have never seen 2 seconds of video from my HD card. I actually got a succesfull scan but that gives me a black screen when I select watch TV
Came back here for more help. Was told to give gentoo a shot.

Did a long and painfull gentoo install. Last part of config requires that you change values to /dev/hda2 rather than swap. Figured that out after several days of searching and retrying that line by line install gentoo needs. There is also no mntion of how to partion the discs for the gentoo install. So I used the values from the wilsonnet directions. Once I got gentoo to boot I did... "the big emerge" and I get errors about mysql and so forth. Went in and emerged mysql, nvidia blah blah blah. Still didn't work. NO WHERE DOES IT SAY IF I NEED TO MAKE A MYTHTV USER. That would be a helpfull piece of information. Gave up and installed KDE on it to get something going and I can't log in as root, or SU to make changes. If I log out go to terminal then I can log in and restart x and get KDE in root.

Trust me when I say I have been pooring in the hours.

If I just get a working system going I would be happy to wirte out a what to do line by line. Just since I can't get the thing going I can't offer help on how to do it.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 6:53 am 
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well the problem is that you can't really do a line by line writeout as it will be different for every different hardware setup, for instance your sklin whatever network thing, that's only on a few new motherboards, and should be fixed in the next release, but is not something that anyone could have anticipated in advance.

not really sure why you are having a problem with dvd rip I've never see it fail once a person gets the playback going, unless you are talking about just how to use it cause the 0 button never entered my mind the first time I looked at it.

more hdtv improvements are on the way as well, and even at that it's still a bit flakey as it's just new tech.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 2:30 pm 
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TheGIZ wrote:
Gave up and installed KDE on it to get something going and I can't log in as root, or SU to make changes. If I log out go to terminal then I can log in and restart x and get KDE in root.


Just a quick note regarding root access. It's generally not considered safe to log in as root, especially on a system that isn't firewalled (stock Gentoo install does not include a firewall). In fact, Gentoo has a config file which by default specifically prevents you from logging into KDE as root. If you can't su inside a terminal, then something went wrong during your installation. It can be fixed though :) Just add your user to the wheel group.


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