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PostPosted: Sat Apr 17, 2004 6:37 pm 
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I tried to enable inbound telnet....but no daemon. the inetd.conf points to a non-existent in.telnetd

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 Post subject: Why not ssh?
PostPosted: Sat Apr 17, 2004 6:42 pm 
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Any reason you can't use SSH ?

If you need help setting it up, I'd be more than glad to give you a hand. I even know some stupid ssh tricks :)

Feel free to add me to your IM if you want.

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If you are trying to get in from a windows machine putty is free and works great.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 17, 2004 7:22 pm 
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There is no telnetd, there will be no telnetd.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 17, 2004 7:26 pm 
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you realy don't want to be running telnet. SSH is a far better way to go, telnet is not encrypted, so everything is sent clear text. SSh is encrypted, way more secure, just use that, and get putty from above.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 9:52 am 
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if you really, really want telnetd install it at your own risk:
apt-get install telnetd


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PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2004 11:26 pm 
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It's been noted that telnet will never be part of the distribution for Knoppix. I agree, and here is why.

When you log into a session on telnet there are three or four ways of authenticating. However the most common way of doing so is to prompt the user for a username and a password.

In telnet this is done as clear text. Anyone with a way of capturing data on your network will be able to capture your authentication information and pretend to be you for anything that they choose to do.

Additionally users often su to root to do system administration tasks. The user will often get a false sense of security because they do not see the password for the root account being echoed back, but it is still sent in clear text. This is true for any implementation of telnet that is not riding on an ssl or ssh stream.

Configuring telnet to only run across an ssl stream is a bit beyond the scope of a distribution like Knoppix, as is setting up and using a Kerberose server for authentication.

Most of these problems are also true for rsh, though there are a host of other problems there as well.

In any case, the implementation of SSH that is available for Linux provides all of the features most people require of Telnet as well as providing scp capabilities. There are a few other nice capabilities that ssh has which are not available under Telnet, but for most people things such as public key authentication is a bit esoteric.

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PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2004 7:42 am 
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Hope I can ask a related question w/r/t connecting via SSH...

I've done it no problem via the aforementioned Putty from work. Works great. However, the mythtv password isn't the most secure password out there. :)

If I login as the mythtv user and change the password, will anything else break? I'm chicken to do it since everything else about my Knoppmyth box is working fantastically.


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PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2004 9:19 am 
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ceenvee703 wrote:
If I login as the mythtv user and change the password, will anything else break? I'm chicken to do it since everything else about my Knoppmyth box is working fantastically.

No.

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