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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 1:16 pm 
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I recently upgraded the hardware in my frontend. I haven't been able to fully diagnose the problem, but it seems that when I am watching a recorded show or live tv that it works fine the first 2-3 times and then the next time the box locks up. I get a black screen and I cannot switch to console or remote into the machine. Not only that, but if I was trying to watch tv the backend says the tuner is still being used for that even after I hard reboot the frontend. I have checked every log I can think of, and I am not seeing an error around the time this happens. This is with a new motherboard, cpu, and video card. I turned off APIC in the bios because I have seen that APIC can cause problems, but that didn't seem to do anything.

Any suggestions on where I can look to at least get some sort of error message? The really annoying things is that if this happens while I'm watching tv I have to restart the backend to get the tuner back (or is there an easier way to force a release of a tuner?)


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 3:54 pm 
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On the syslog of my backend I am getting this error everytime I launch "Watch TV" on my frontend, could this be my issue?:

Code:
Jan 20 14:47:08 mythtv automount[4679]: >> mount: /dev/cdrom is not a block device
Jan 20 14:47:08 mythtv automount[4679]: mount(generic): failed to mount /dev/cdrom (type auto) on /mnt/auto/cdrom
Jan 20 14:47:08 mythtv automount[4679]: failed to mount /mnt/auto/cdrom


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 4:38 pm 
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You can see here on my backend that I watch and then exit live tv 3 times. Then, on the fourth try it locks up:

Code:
2007-01-20 15:19:39.170 MainServer::HandleAnnounce Playback
2007-01-20 15:19:39.174 adding: mythfront1 as a client (events: 0)
2007-01-20 15:19:39.180 TVRec(2): Changing from None to WatchingLiveTV
2007-01-20 15:19:54.744 TVRec(2): Changing from WatchingLiveTV to None
2007-01-20 15:19:54.830 Finished recording Malibu's Most Wanted: channel 1051

2007-01-20 15:19:56.972 MainServer::HandleAnnounce Playback
2007-01-20 15:19:56.974 adding: mythfront1 as a client (events: 0)
2007-01-20 15:19:56.981 TVRec(2): Changing from None to WatchingLiveTV
2007-01-20 15:20:01.011 autoexpire: Expiring Program: Expiring: Malibu's Most Wanted Sat Jan 20 14:30:00 2007 7 MBytes
2007-01-20 15:20:12.163 TVRec(2): Changing from WatchingLiveTV to None
2007-01-20 15:20:12.213 Finished recording Malibu's Most Wanted: channel 1051

2007-01-20 15:20:13.881 MainServer::HandleAnnounce Playback
2007-01-20 15:20:13.883 adding: mythfront1 as a client (events: 0)
2007-01-20 15:20:13.890 TVRec(2): Changing from None to WatchingLiveTV
2007-01-20 15:20:23.496 TVRec(2): Changing from WatchingLiveTV to None
2007-01-20 15:20:23.524 Finished recording Malibu's Most Wanted: channel 1051

2007-01-20 15:20:24.977 MainServer::HandleAnnounce Playback
2007-01-20 15:20:24.979 adding: mythfront1 as a client (events: 0)
2007-01-20 15:20:24.986 TVRec(2): Changing from None to WatchingLiveTV


I have gone through all of the logs on the frontend, and nothing happens at 15:20. Most of the event timestamps go from 15:13 to 15:26(when I forced a hard reset). This is crazy, I don't know how to go about figuring this one out.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 4:46 pm 
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 12:27 pm 
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I have been having similar problems and I have started to wonder if this is an irq problem. I use an asus p4p800e motherboard and spent some time fiddling with my irq assignments in the bios. I changed to pnp bios and disabled some unused services on my motherboard firewire, floppy, parallel port etc. this seems to have helped but my problems haven't gone away entirely. According to lspci -v I currently I have:

NVIDIA card IRQ 18
PVR250 IRQ 22
PVR350 IRQ 18
PCHDTV 3000 IRQ 22

Previously, the PVR350 was also on IRQ 22. I'd like to get them all on completely separate interrupts but I don't know how.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 2:42 pm 
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Wow, I did the same thing. It looks like I have a lot of conflicts.
Does anyone know how to change this?

Code:
VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation C51G [GeForce 6100] (on motherboard video) = IRQ 10
SMBus: nVidia Corporation MCP51 SMBus = IRQ 10
Bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP51 Ethernet Controller = IRQ 10

USB Controller: nVidia Corporation MCP51 USB Controller = IRQ 11
IDE interface: nVidia Corporation MCP51 Serial ATA Controller = IRQ 11
Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation MCP51 AC97 Audio Controller = IRQ 11

USB Controller: nVidia Corporation MCP51 USB Controller = IRQ 5
VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GeForce 7300 GS (Video Card I'm Using) = IRQ 5


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 2:35 pm 
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Hey rsay, run this command:
cat /proc/interrupts

This is what I get:

Code:
           CPU0
  0:   16631787          XT-PIC  timer
  1:         10          XT-PIC  i8042
  2:          0          XT-PIC  cascade
  4:       6027          XT-PIC  lirc_serial
  5:    1029320          XT-PIC  ehci_hcd:usb2, nvidia
  7:         13          XT-PIC  parport0
  9:          0          XT-PIC  acpi
 10:   12690234          XT-PIC  eth0
 11:     155703          XT-PIC  libata, ohci_hcd:usb1, Intel ICH
 12:        113          XT-PIC  i8042
 14:      15151          XT-PIC  ide0
 15:         37          XT-PIC  ide1
NMI:          0
LOC:   16631558
ERR:          0
MIS:          0


From what I've seen, this doesn't indicate and IRQ conflict. If there was a conflict there would be multiple lines with the same IRQ.


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 Post subject: Same thing
PostPosted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 5:18 pm 
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kmkittre, what are you using for tuner cards?

I have two mythtv boxes currently - one is being built as a replacement for the other.

My old box, with one aging (about 8 years old) hauppauge wintv card, does not exhibit this problem.

My new box (I'm going small form factor) has a PVR 500 as it's main tuner card (I've also moved the pcHDTV5500 to this box). It DOES have this problem. It is intermittent however, and that's making it a real PITA to diagnose.

When I first encountered this problem I could not find any reference to it anywhere on the forums. The only piece of hardware which was completely new in my new box was the pvr500... and since it is a widely used card I expected someone to have noticed if there were any problems.

I suspected the card was defective and had it RMA'd but the new card does exactly the same thing.

Only in the past few days have posts like this started. Honestly I'm relived it's not just me, but curious as to why the problem is not affecting more people.

In my case, it all seems to be decided at shutdown or boot. Sometimes the box will come up properly and everything will run fine for as long as the box is on. When I power cycle it this problem crops up.

To top it off, I'm getting intermittent database corruptions when I hard-reset the box.

After fighting with this for the whole month (re-installing from scratch dozens of times to make sure I didn't miss anything in the install,) I have wizened up and created a backup image of what for all intents and purposes is a "safe point" - everything is working. It takes me about 5 minutes to load this image, and everything runs fine until I reboot again.

Obviously this is not a good long term solution. If you get any headway on this please share your findings as my brain hurts. If anyone wants to help but needs more info, just let me know and I will happily provide it!

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 Post subject: May have been mistaken
PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 6:56 pm 
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I did a fresh install after getting that new card yesterday... I haven't had this problem resurface yet. (Though now I'm getting the problem with backend not starting up - using thornsoft's babysit_backend.sh cronjob script as a work around for it though.)

I'll keep you posted if this lock-up problem re-occurs. I haven't had the database corrupt on me yet either - I think it was due to the hard-reset I had to do after the lock-ups.

Keeping my fingers crossed.

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* Hauppauge WinTV PCI
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 10:26 pm 
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Here is the result from my cat /proc/interrupts:

CPU0 CPU1
0: 143820014 0 IO-APIC-edge timer
1: 12 0 IO-APIC-edge i8042
6: 5 0 IO-APIC-edge floppy
7: 0 0 IO-APIC-edge parport0
8: 1 0 IO-APIC-edge rtc
9: 1 0 IO-APIC-level acpi
12: 107 0 IO-APIC-edge i8042
15: 6792304 0 IO-APIC-edge ide1
16: 26976 0 IO-APIC-level skge
17: 1287204 0 IO-APIC-level libata, uhci_hcd:usb3
18: 43175536 0 IO-APIC-level libata, ehci_hcd:usb5, ivtv1
19: 17121355 0 IO-APIC-level uhci_hcd:usb1, uhci_hcd:usb4, nvidia
20: 0 0 IO-APIC-level uhci_hcd:usb2
21: 2 0 IO-APIC-level ohci1394
22: 3750896 0 IO-APIC-level Intel ICH5
23: 3152199 0 IO-APIC-level cx88[0], cx88[0], ivtv0
NMI: 0 0
LOC: 143820841 143819653
ERR: 0
MIS: 0

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 11:05 pm 
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So, I diagnosed my problem to only occurring when I had a video card plugged in. I couldn't really find a way around this, so I replaced the motherboard...


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 8:49 pm 
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Which motherboard did you pick? I'm thinking of changing mine also.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 12:40 am 
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I ended up going with an AMD 3800+ X2 (socket AM2) and the Asus M2NPV-VM. I then also had to buy new memory. I got all three from Newegg for about $250. Runs HD like a champ.


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