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Author:  ihatetivo [ Tue Aug 14, 2007 8:54 pm ]
Post subject:  Connecting to MythTV box from Windows Vista: Solved
I am trying to access MythTV from my Vista machine. The purpose is to drag/drop some files back & forth between the two machines. I had this working a week ago, between my old XP machine and my Mythbox. I went to the following page and followed the steps.

http://www.knoppmythwiki.org/index.php?page=UsingSambaHowTo

Quote:
To connect to this machine from Windows XP, you can use My Network Places. Your MythTV box should appear with whatever name you gave it during installation. When prompted to log in, use the mythtv username, with the default password of mythtv


This info explained how to turn on Samba, etc. MythTV showed up as a network location in my "network neighborhood" and it worked fine. However, in my new Vista PC's network neighborhood, MythTV shows up as "MythTV AV Media Server". I can not double-click this location to access the Mythbox directory. So, it seems going to Vista will require a new technique.

:?: Any ideas on networking Vista & my Mythbox?
Author:  spalVl [ Tue Aug 14, 2007 9:02 pm ]
Post subject: 
What you are seeing is probably MythTV's upnp server. Vista probably just hasn't discovered it yet.

Try using the run command in Vista to open the network location directly.

ie \\192.168.0.100 (whatever IP is of KnoppMyth box)
Author:  ihatetivo [ Tue Aug 14, 2007 9:47 pm ]
Post subject:  Solved
spalVl wrote:
What you are seeing is probably MythTV's upnp server. Vista probably just hasn't discovered it yet.

Try using the run command in Vista to open the network location directly.

ie \\192.168.0.100 (whatever IP is of KnoppMyth box)


It works! Thank you so much.
Author:  ihatetivo [ Fri Oct 19, 2007 2:31 pm ]
Post subject: 
spalVl wrote:
What you are seeing is probably MythTV's upnp server. Vista probably just hasn't discovered it yet.

Try using the run command in Vista to open the network location directly.

ie \\192.168.0.100 (whatever IP is of KnoppMyth box)


Hmm. This used to work. However after the R5F27 upgrade, the above recommendation doesn't work. I'm aware of tjc's comment:

Quote:
6.1) For improved security, direct ssh access as the "mythtv" and "root" users and for users with blank passwords has been disabled in /etc/ssh/sshd_config. For ssh access as root you must login as user created during phase 1 installation, run "su - root", and provide the root password.


I realize I can no longer use
Code:
\\192.168.0.100\myth


However, I did expect this to work:
Code:
\\192.168.0.100\username


:?: What should I try next?
Author:  graysky [ Sat Oct 20, 2007 11:48 am ]
Post subject: 
If you have samba up and running on your mythbox, I don't see why you can't connect via \\ipaddy\ from your windows box... I don't/won't use vista so I can't help that much. Does it have some firewall blocking connections perhaps? Can you ping the mythbox from your vista machine?
Author:  ihatetivo [ Sun Oct 21, 2007 12:59 pm ]
Post subject: 
graysky wrote:
If you have samba up and running on your mythbox, I don't see why you can't connect via \\ipaddy\ from your windows box... I don't/won't use vista so I can't help that much. Does it have some firewall blocking connections perhaps? Can you ping the mythbox from your vista machine?


In this current scenario, I'm trying to see the Mythbox from the Vista PC. However, I also use my laptop & Putty to get a remote X-window going. So, if I can access the Mythbox from the laptop PC, I assume Samba is working correctly.
Author:  graysky [ Sun Oct 21, 2007 1:19 pm ]
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ok... if you can connect to it via ssh from another PC, your vista machine is the cause of your problem. Is there a firewall running or some moronic built-in "security" feature blocking the traffic I wonder....
Author:  ihatetivo [ Sun Oct 21, 2007 1:24 pm ]
Post subject: 
graysky wrote:
ok... if you can connect to it via ssh from another PC, your vista machine is the cause of your problem. Is there a firewall running or some moronic built-in "security" feature blocking the traffic I wonder....


Using "ifconfig", I confirmed the IP of the Mythbox. When I ping the Mythbox from the Vista PC, it succeeded with 4/4 packets returned OK. (My earlier comment about a failed ping was incorrect)

There could be some "security" feature blocking the access, however this setup worked fine before the R5F27 upgrade. I have done nothing to Vista to change any network/security setting.
Author:  graysky [ Mon Oct 22, 2007 2:15 pm ]
Post subject: 
I can't explain it.

So you CAN ping the mythtvbox from Vista... can you connect to it via ssh or can you connect to mythweb?

Are you sure you're typing the IP address of the mythtv box correctly in your vista box?

\\192.168.1.12\myth for example
Author:  slowtolearn [ Mon Oct 22, 2007 2:40 pm ]
Post subject: 
ihatetivo wrote:
In this current scenario, I'm trying to see the Mythbox from the Vista PC. However, I also use my laptop & Putty to get a remote X-window going. So, if I can access the Mythbox from the laptop PC, I assume Samba is working correctly.
Samba != SSH

Is Samba running on your KM system? ps -ef | grep mbd. AFAIK Samba is not up and running out of the box, you need to configure it to start at bootup with update-rc.d samba defaults
Author:  ihatetivo [ Sat Nov 24, 2007 8:44 am ]
Post subject: 
slowtolearn wrote:
ihatetivo wrote:
In this current scenario, I'm trying to see the Mythbox from the Vista PC. However, I also use my laptop & Putty to get a remote X-window going. So, if I can access the Mythbox from the laptop PC, I assume Samba is working correctly.
Samba != SSH

Is Samba running on your KM system? ps -ef | grep mbd. AFAIK Samba is not up and running out of the box, you need to configure it to start at bootup with update-rc.d samba defaults


Me != Smart

You were right. I needed to re-run the "update-rc.d samba defaults" code, after my R5F27 upgrade. Silly mistake.
Author:  myth19kirt [ Sun Dec 02, 2007 8:35 pm ]
Post subject:  Codec for Windows Vista
My new laptop has media center. I was able to add to my library the myth box's pretty folder. It presented a table of icons to launch the MPG files, but I can not view the videos. I do get sound, but no video. Some mpg that I ran autodetect on were viewable.

What do I need to get vista's media center to play my myth media.

Thanks in advanced.
Author:  timmyboy [ Mon Dec 17, 2007 2:36 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Codec for Windows Vista
myth19kirt wrote:
My new laptop has media center. I was able to add to my library the myth box's pretty folder. It presented a table of icons to launch the MPG files, but I can not view the videos. I do get sound, but no video. Some mpg that I ran autodetect on were viewable.

What do I need to get vista's media center to play my myth media.

Thanks in advanced.


This problem is very difficult to solve. Windows Media Player's mpeg codec has an inability to properly read files created by Hauppauge hardware MPEG tuner cards. Nobody's exactly figured out why the problem occurs (to my knowledge). One solution is to install an alternate mpeg codec, but figuring out how to make Vista use that codec over the default one has been tricky. I haven't figured it out.

Although this doesn't solve your problem, I would recommend using MythTVPlayer for viewing in Vista. It even allows watching live tv.

Good luck. Sorry I couldn't be more helpful.
Author:  graysky [ Mon Dec 17, 2007 3:58 pm ]
Post subject: 
ihatetivo wrote:
You were right. I needed to re-run the "update-rc.d samba defaults" code, after my R5F27 upgrade. Silly mistake.


Glad to hear it's working for you... be sure you check out this samba speedup thread and verify your samba is running @ it's max xfer rate.
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