After an upgrade from R5F1 to R5F27 everything seemed OK except the system was missing schedule entries for the digital cards. I have three tuners - 2 HD5000 (one connected to cable (QAM-256) and one to an OTA antenna) and a Hauppauge 250. The digital cards have no schedule data. Upon investigation I found the XMLTV ID's for those cards are missing in the database. If I manually enter them then mythfilldatabase fills in the schedules and all is well.

To find a reason for this I deleted the video sources and tried this again. I ended in the same place. If, while watching TV I edit the source info (pressing 'e') the XMLID is stuck on "loading..." even after a probe. At what point does the system resolve the ID's? BTW, I have upgraded to the lates XMLTV (0.5.48) per Cecil's instructions (and scottr). Is there a way to force the system to refresh the ID's?

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nbdwt73

It doesn't appear anyone can help you yet.

I have an HD-5000 using QAM-256 over cable too.

I just auto upgraded to r5f27 and found it confusing a bit.

I added the Schedules Direct sources and then linked them to the HD-5000.

But then it wouldn't allow me to select a starting channel. I didn't want to scan again because I remember typing in all those xmltv id's way back when and i was hoping not to have to do that again. So I didn't click "SCAN" but when I clicked Retrieve channels it would do nothing.

So I exited mythtv-setup and answered yes i know what i'm doing to the question about starting channels not existing and then I ran mythfilldatabase.

I hope it will remember the xmltvid's from before.

still waiting to see what i get

mythfill database

Insert into dd_ table name

is getting a bunch of errors about dd_ various tables not existing

Now I am rescanning the Air2PC v3 using the cable hi 256qam... underscore separator, minimal updates, I hope these are the best settings. I'm getting a bunch of 78#1,78#2, which I beleive are just junk.

I hope I didn't miss an easier way. This will add at least 30 more minutes to the upgrade, and I'm dreading having to type in xmltv ids again.

I'm trying to probe too at the moment and not having much success. I scanned for qam and locked a bunch of channels. Then I ran mfdb --channel-updates and --update-today but I didn't see any of my digital cable listings from SD appear. Tuned a few channels from the FE and edited the XMLTV ID's but a probe isn't bringing back anything, no channel ID or number.

However at this point I ran mfdb again and I get schedules for the 'probed' channels, yet still no channel numbers or IDs.

I think I'm missing a step, but I can't see it.

More info... I have run several more experiments with test machines configured as both stand alones and as backends. I have also tried two different cable systems all resulting in the same result - the XMLTV ID's for digital QAM channels is not populating into the database. I have dumped the SD data ( http://forums.schedulesdirect.org/viewt ... ?f=6&t=295 ) and verified that it does contain the ID's.

For my production system I have had to manually enter the XMLTV ID's for this lineup (then everything works fine). My digital over-the-air and analog cable lineups work fine.

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nbdwt73

If this helps anyone, I got things working (as far as I can tell).

I was not able to 'probe' from the Watch TV edit mode (E) to pull back channel data. But I was able to enter the ID information from the MythWeb channel settings page and manually enter ID, Name and Number from SD. I then ram MFDB --do-channel-updates and then MFDB --refresh-all and I'm working again.

I don't know if 'probe' needs more info then the xmltv id to work, it didn't used to. Maybe entering the channel number and ID from the edit mode would work.

It helped that I had a .xls file with all the channels and freqs from last time around...

(R5F27)

I got things mostly working I think?

I didn't type any xmltv ids.

edit: never mind.... all my digital channels on the air2pc v3 are missing data... the analogue ones on the pvr150 are ok.

I added the SD lineups that mirrored my zap2it lineups to the setup.
I then bound the capture cards to the SD lineups instead.

I then ran mythfilldatabase as mythtv ( this went screwy at the end due to missing tables or something so I ctrl-c it to stop...but it may have pulled down the new channels for SD I do not know) (I think whether or not we need to run mythfilldatabase just after adding an SD source but before scanning is the crux of the problem..),

I then went back into the mythtv-setup and did a complete scan of the hi-cable qam-256 and chose minimal changes. I suspect you must do a new scan after binding to your new SD lineup and this is required before hitting the retrieve channels from SD button just to the right. So after the scan completed I hit that button and it actually did something which took a long time (before hitting that button did nothing).

Then I chose a starting channel which also for the first time possible.

At this point I deleted the DD sources, and exited the setup and now I got no error warnings.
Finally, I ran mythfilldatabase again.

So, in summary my guess is that (I think whether or not we need to run mythfilldatabase just after adding an SD source but before scanning could be the crux of the problem..), Perhaps, it needs to retreive channel information from SD prior to scanning because during this scanning process it uses similarities in the channel name and number to assign xmltvids to your channels. That is my guess anyway.

EDIT: I spoke too soon. My channel info is there, but the channels from the scan are not matching the channels from SD so the true channels from the scan are missing xmltvid info and don't get any scheduling data.

Got it working without typing in XMLTVIDs... I think I know why.

My lineup channel numbers didn't match what the scan was finding.

Using phpmyadmin, I realized that PBS was like 202 on the schedules direct for my digital cable listing and 202 on my cable box, but 402 on a scan of that same cable's unscrambled QAM256. I then noticed the "antenna" lineup for my area code. This one had a 4_2 that corresponded to PBS. Therefore, I setup the antennae source. Bound the capture card to that lineup source. Then I did a new scan,
of QAM256 cable-hi, but chose to use the underscore separator and "delete existing channels" Then I clicked the button retrieve channels from source.

I don't remember if I added a mythfilldatabase in there, but I definitely did it in the end.

Now my unscrambled QAM256 channels from cable also have XMLTVids and data! I thought it used station inames and ids and stuff, but I guess it mainly uses the numbers. You have to make sure they are the same.