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 Post subject: Debian packages?
PostPosted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 8:39 pm 
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How long does it usually take for Debian packages to come out after a new version of Myth is released?


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 10:14 pm 
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As long as it takes someone to make them... I think Cecil and Dale are up to their eyeballs in projects with the R5 Alpha just announced, and being at SCALE this weekend. A bit of patience may be indicated.

BTW - You may not remember the teething pains that 0.16 had, but frankly rushing blindly to the latest version is ... lets just say "ill advised". Let it settle out for a few days to see if a 0.17.1 is required unless you're comfortable compiling your own patched versions from CVS.


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well matts debian packages usually come out pretty quickly, but I would suggest waiting for cesmans if you are running knoppmyth.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2005 8:06 am 
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I've only been on myth for less than a week so I don't really know of the teething pains there. :D 0.17 has a specific feature that I need, though... I'm only getting a third of the channels that I'm paying for until I can take advantage of the firewire port on my Motorola DCT6200 HD cable box. Some of our favorite shows are outside of the analog channel range so I suppose I've got some motivation to take some risks.

I would just compile from source but that is going to screw up package management. So I'll wait. 8)


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2005 8:37 am 
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As long as it takes someone to make them... I think Cecil and Dale are up to their eyeballs in projects with the R5 Alpha just announced, and being at SCALE this weekend. A bit of patience may be indicated.

BTW - You may not remember the teething pains that 0.16 had, but frankly rushing blindly to the latest version is ... lets just say "ill advised". Let it settle out for a few days to see if a 0.17.1 is required unless you're comfortable compiling your own patched versions from CVS.


Hear Hear. "look before you leap" definitely applies here for both MythTV 0.17 and especially R5A9. If you have a working production HTPC and it works, DON'T SCREW WITH IT! Wait until those with development and experimental boxes run it long enough to shake out the bugs.

KnoppMyth and MythTV are great software, don't get me wrong, but both are in heavy development so there is no way to ensure every problem is fixed before release. As far I am concerned, the developers can take as long as they want to release the next version and even then it will be weeks before I touch my R4V5 system, even with Myth 0.17. I won't even consider R5 until its at least in mature beta or probably stable release.

I recommend reviewing the mythtv-user mailing list and searching for "0.17" to see what I mean.

Look before you leap!

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2005 11:48 am 
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If you are looking for the firewire support, then I'm willing to bet you are looking at an uphill battle. anything that new even if it is in an official release is usually troublesome.

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Yeah, I bet you'd be up and running sooner building an IR blaster to control the box. :)


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 Post subject: unstable debs
PostPosted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 1:07 am 
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0.17 debs can be found here...

http://dijkstra.csh.rit.edu/~mdz/debian ... le/mythtv/

check out the instuctions on the web page (update sources.list accordingly)... additionally, there are a few Database issues after upgrading to get the frontend working, specifically duplicate columns from Mythconverg tables. I managed to delete them easily enough from webmin to get the frontend back in business. I'm currently working on getting firewire to work.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 1:51 am 
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How easy was the upgrade to 0.17 using Matt's debs? Did you have to upgrade QT?

I have a new xbox and installing mythtv-xbox relies on Matt's debs. I missed the 0.16 ones by around two hours, so my new xbox is running 0.17. I now need to upgrade the rest of the house to match.

(I'd prefer to downgrade to 0.16 on the xbox, so if anyone has Matt's debs for 0.16 I'd love to grab them... they're off his site).

Doug


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 8:47 am 
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yonderway

I have a Moto6200 also. You do NOT need .17 to control this box. I am using a R5A7 build now and it works almost perfectly R4V5 may also work. It takes about 10 minutes to get it up and running. Basically I downloaded l1394-0.2.4, libavc1394-0.4.1 and the 6200ch.c.patch from the myth mailing list archives. make, make install the 1394 stuff (not the debian way, but I don't know what deb archive these are in to apt-get, so this was easier for me. In the contrib directory of the Mythtv-0.16 source directory you will find 6200.c. Check out the readme for how to use it. I have the pvr250 card tune channels 1-70, then it switches to the svideo input of the card and tunes channels 71-999 with the moto 6200 box. It takes about 10 minutes to get this running.


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 Post subject: Re: unstable debs
PostPosted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 12:51 pm 
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Lentilboy wrote:
DON'T use these debs if you're using R4. If you're using the R5 alpha, you can remove the 0.16 debs and install these.

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 Post subject: Re: unstable debs
PostPosted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 7:37 pm 
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cesman wrote:
Lentilboy wrote:
DON'T use these debs if you're using R4. If you're using the R5 alpha, you can remove the 0.16 debs and install these.


Oh. Any particular reason, it's just that I installed MythTV-frontend and -backend 0.17 from the binary debs, then used apt-get source <item> -b and dpkg --force-overwrite -i <package name> to install the others from source, and so far everything's working AOK.

Though manually having to solve the dependancies was a bit of a bind, fortunately the apt-get source -b reported the dependancy problems so I could apt-get the relevant modules.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 8:57 pm 
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wififun wrote:
yonderway

I have a Moto6200 also. You do NOT need .17 to control this box. I am using a R5A7 build now and it works almost perfectly R4V5 may also work. It takes about 10 minutes to get it up and running. Basically I downloaded l1394-0.2.4, libavc1394-0.4.1 and the 6200ch.c.patch from the myth mailing list archives. make, make install the 1394 stuff (not the debian way, but I don't know what deb archive these are in to apt-get, so this was easier for me. In the contrib directory of the Mythtv-0.16 source directory you will find 6200.c. Check out the readme for how to use it. I have the pvr250 card tune channels 1-70, then it switches to the svideo input of the card and tunes channels 71-999 with the moto 6200 box. It takes about 10 minutes to get this running.


For the debian way, About the only change I have made to my apt-config is the addition of the marillat sources as described for avidemux2 and mythtvburn in the Wiki. When I do an apt-cache search for libavc, I get back these results:

Code:
apt-cache search libavc
libavc1394-0 - control IEEE1394 audio/video devices
libavc1394-dev - control IEEE1394 audio/video devices (development files)
libavcodec-dev - development files for libavcodec
libavcodec1 - Library to encode decode multimedia streams - runtime files
libavcodec1-dev - Library to encode decode multimedia streams - devel files
libavcodec2 - Library to encode decode multimedia streams - runtime files
libavcodec2-dev - Library to encode decode multimedia streams - devel files
libavcodeccvs - library to encode decode multimedia streams - runtime files
libavcodeccvs-dev - library to encode decode multimedia streams - devel files
mencoder-586 - MPlayer's Movie Encoder
mencoder-k6 - MPlayer's Movie Encoder


I would presume that either one or the other of the first two hits would be the packages to install. I am not sure that this will give you support for your cable box, but it may be worth checking out. I suspect it will be more stable than 0.17, or R5 for some weeks to come.

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 Post subject: dct-6208
PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 8:19 pm 
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Wififun,

I've been working on the firewire channel changing that you outlined above but have yet to see any results.... are there any known issues with DCT6208 cable boxes??


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 7:55 pm 
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Lentilboy,
I do not know about the 6208. You may want to check the mythtv mailing list to see if that box is covered. Looking at the readme to the 6200ch code, nothing about the 6208 is mentioned. I just updated to R5A10 with the and it looks like cesman has included all the required 1394 stuff. I did not try compiling 6200ch again, but I can post the binary working version I compiled before if that would help. It is working for me with A10 with out a hitch.


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