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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 10:33 am 
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What's the future direction for knoppmyth?

It seems to me X windows is superfluous and takes up RAM and CPU
power that could be used for something else. Any way it could be
reworked to use framebuffer?

Thanks!


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 10:40 am 
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It seems to me X windows is superfluous and takes up RAM and CPU


That arguemnet is used way to often to squash progress in linux..

my 2 cents.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 11:13 am 
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:shock:

What?


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 11:43 am 
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uzik wrote:
:shock:

What?


RAM is cheap, and as far as I know, nvidia does not provide accelerated drivers for anything but X windows (e.g. not framebuffer). There is work from other developers on accellerated framebuffers, but...

And, to be honest, X isn't really that big, considering.

Plus, this is really a MythTV issue, not a KnoppMyth issue.

-brendan


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 12:24 pm 
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The X Window System rules (PERIOD)!

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 1:36 am 
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When I was first trying to install MythTV on my own (i.e. before I found the most excellent KnoppMyth way), I thought the same thing. Set Top Box. Local display. X has heaps of networking junk in it.

A Gentoo install was nice and small. Why do I need to install hundreds of megabytes of X junk? After lots of frustration with framebuffer versions of MythTV, I decided that at least the X input manager would work (unlike Qt/Embedded, which actually had to start up a window manager so that mouse and key events could be dispatched to the app). So then I tried to install Xfree under Gentoo. A day later, when it had only built a third of the dependencies, I gave up on MythTV for quite a while. But, enough of my sorded history.

It has also been quite convenient to be able to run mythtv-setup -display laptop:0.0 and reconfigure KnoppMyth without grabbing the keyboard and connecting a mouse to the PC.

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