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PostPosted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 5:51 am 
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I've searched the forum and have yet to find a definitive answer: Has anyone successfully used Norton Ghost to migrate a working KnoppMyth installation from one hard drive to a larger hard drive, inlcuding the necessary resizing of the /myth partition?

I currently have a Seagate 200GB HD, and have a 400GB drive on the way which I'd like to use instead. If I don't have to reinstall and reconfigure KnoppMyth, I'd rather not.

Can someone tell me one way or another whether this will work? I saw one post about PowerQuest DriveImage that said the software would copy the partitions without issue, but that it was unable to resize the /myth partition successfully. Will I have this same issue in Ghost?

Thanks for any guidance.


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Unless you have a need for the 200G disk in another system, why not use LVM so that your /myth partition is almost 600G? R5A15 comes with a script for setting up LVM. Not sure exactly what it does, but it would seem like the way to go.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 11:57 am 
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I thought about that, but I've got my system in a Shuttle XPC case, and I don't want to deal with the cabling and potential heat issues, so it's going to be a single drive system.


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I think my approach would be something like:

1) Put current drive on second channel and possible as slave to CD drive, depending on where the CD drive was found.
2) Add new drive to first channel.
3) Install (or at least get through the formatting steps) onto the new drive.
4) Boot off the CD again.
5) Mount the new partitions somewhere in /tmp
6) Use a few tar pipe tar commands (with appropriate options) to duplicate the old drive onto the new drive.
7) Reboot
8) Verify.

With a shuttle, you'll probably have to do all of that with the case off and carefully due to the short cables, etc.

-brendan


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I have done it. - Used ghost 7 enterprise I think.

Worked a treat

Nigel


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Sweet! Thanks for the info!


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PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2005 10:09 am 
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Ghost 7 let you resize the partitions?

Nigel wrote:
I have done it. - Used ghost 7 enterprise I think.

Worked a treat

Nigel


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You can copy all the partitions except /myth, then create a bigger /myth partition and copy your videos, etc. over. You shouldn't need to resize the other partitions unless you want to. G4u is a freely available tool which can copy partitions or the whole disk to an ftp server.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 9:10 pm 
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My goal is the same as the other guys in this thread - migrate a working KnoppMyth to a bigger hard drive.

The web pages I've read say that early versions of Ghost can't copy Linux hard drives, but version 8 and higher can. I think Ghost 2003 is version 8.0 or 8.5. So, it's reported to work. Great!

As a test, I cloned the 60GB KnoppMyth drive to an 80GB drive and all seemed to copy ok.

The clone is done and LILO is screwed up on the clone. At boot, the screen reads "99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99" instead of LILO bla.bla.bla.

It doesn't look like it worked to me.
How do I fix LILO on the cloned hard drive?

Eric

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 10:16 pm 
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At boot, the screen reads "99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99" instead of LILO bla.bla.bla.

How do I fix LILO on the cloned hard drive?


This will do it if you have a working KM install to create diskette from
http://www.knoppmythwiki.org/index.php? ... ryDiskette

If you don't have a diskette boot from a CD and type

Code:
lilo -v


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 11:27 pm 
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The R5C7 upgrade hints thread here: http://mysettopbox.tv/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=10116 includes a discussion I had with marc.aronson about ways of moving to a different disks in the course of an upgrade... You might find it useful. If you know what your fixups and customizations are it's really just a matter of copying the myth partition and then upgrading.


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If you still can't get it too work, I just did this same and have a possible solution for you here:
http://mysettopbox.tv/phpBB2/viewtopic. ... highlight=


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 6:42 am 
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I've moved my Knoppmyth install to larger drives 4 times.

Yes you can re-size each of the partitions at the time of ghosting, Nortons actually makes each partition a little bigger and prompts you if you want to make any changes.

It is VERY important to note that only Norton's Ghost 2003 (and earlier) that you would buy at a software store will work with linux. On the Corporate level, Norton 7 and earlier will work. Anything newer then 7 will not work. It may seem to work BUT if Norton never gives you the option to re-size your partitions (or shows you the new size of each partition) then you can be sure that you will recieve the 99999999999... on boot up.

Read the box, if it states nothing about supporting linux then chances are it will not work and it will not copy the boot sector over properly.

Other then that it's a piece of cake to do the transfer and straight forward. I would suggest connecting the new larger drive on a second EIDE channel as a master (or as a slave on the same channel as the exisiting drive) perform the Ghost, this will be a lot faster.

Hope this helps


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:15 am 
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Thanks for all the ideas. I really want a one step copy/upsize operation rather than a 2 or 3 step process.

dmcman73: The Ghost 2003 I used was bought from a software store as a single item. It says Norton Ghost 2003 on the box.
The Norton/Symantec webpage says that 2003 will copy EXT2, EXT3 Linux partitions.
When I used Ghost 2003, it DID resize the partitions - that is one of the benefits of using Ghost, which I love. But, it sounds like that resize function won't fly in Linux? It screws up LILO?
If you can't resize the partitions, then that defeats the purpose of moving to a bigger hard drive.

Since no one mentioned these things, I'll let you know what I found:

Ghost For Linux (G4L).
http://freshmeat.net/projects/g4l/
I downloaded it and will try it. Hopefully, it can resize partitions and keep LILO happy at the same time.

The Ulitmate Boot CD (UBCD):
http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/
It has bunches of utilities, Linux bootdisks and has G4L right on the cd!!

Eric

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 3:31 pm 
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i've moved to a new disk before by:

1. Boot knoppix with both drives connected
2. Partition and format the new drive how you like (don't forget the swap partition)
3. Mounted all the partitions from both drives
4. I can't remember the exact switches, but i just used cp to copy each partition's data over.
5. chroot to the new drive's root partition
6. lilo


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