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Author:  aaronb [ Wed May 11, 2005 8:52 pm ]
Post subject:  ExtremeTech article about KnoppMyth
http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1 ... 901,00.asp
Author:  tjc [ Wed May 11, 2005 10:31 pm ]
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Aside from the DRM issues both prolems they had have rather simple fixes...
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We couldn't bring up the color, brightness, or contrast adjustments for playback during TV viewing. We could adjust these settings for recording, but these are independent of the playback settings.

Duh-oh! Turn on the Xv option under setup!
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StreamZap remote didn't work. (It seemed we needed to tweak the LIRC config file to specify this particular remote control.)

Under R5A15.1 there is a very slick script (/usr/local/bin/lirc-reconfig.sh) to reconfigure this for you with the answers to a few simple questions.

Not to mention that their insistence on having Firefox and Gedit and calling the Myth GUI "the desktop" seems to be a bit unclear on the concept... ;-)
Author:  Girkers [ Thu May 12, 2005 12:54 am ]
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This article does not do justice to KnoppMyth, if anything it does it a disservice.

If you look at the start of the second page he says
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We've been following with some interest a project/distro called KnoppMyth
and if in fact this is the case I don't believe he would have had half the trouble he mentioned.

And in closing on his last page he mentions about his wish list, half of which are already been done by KnoppMyth.

I find this article, from my perspective anyway, very high level and just breezes over the process of installation. It doesn't go into any detail on any aspect of the install or the product itself. Thus leaving users either confused (most likely) or dazed.
Author:  Girkers [ Thu May 12, 2005 1:01 am ]
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Oh yeah I forgot to mention, why the hell would you need Firefox?
Author:  cesman [ Thu May 12, 2005 2:55 pm ]
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Interesting how they have been following it, yet fail to contat the developers to ask questions... Perhaps folks think I'm unapproached. ;)
Author:  Xsecrets [ Thu May 12, 2005 4:04 pm ]
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obviously you were unapproached. :lol:
Author:  aaronb [ Thu May 12, 2005 6:21 pm ]
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After reading it that site lost a lot of credibility in my eyes. It seems like they tried to install it without even looking at any docs or the forum.
Author:  khrusher [ Fri May 13, 2005 7:25 am ]
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cesman wrote:
Interesting how they have been following it, yet fail to contat the developers to ask questions... Perhaps folks think I'm unapproached. ;)


Is this the correct forum for this?? :D
Author:  Howski [ Tue May 24, 2005 8:08 am ]
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ExtremeTech is a Windows-fellating rag. I read it a couple times a week, no lie, just to have a good laugh. The limit of their view on Linux is like, "oh, no! I have to tweak a config file in a text editor!!!" I think Girkers is right - this article did KnoppMyth a disservice.
Author:  Girkers [ Tue May 24, 2005 9:20 am ]
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Thanks Howski for the kudos much appreciated.

Since reading this article and another one that was just as crappy I decided to write my own. So far so good, it is a slow process buy seeing I don't have a dead line I would rather make it a quality document, rather than something that just breezes over this that and the other.

I am looking for proof readers to help out though for feedback, any takers, PM me?

Thanks all.
Author:  BluesBrian [ Sun Aug 14, 2005 1:48 pm ]
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tjc wrote:
Not to mention that their insistence on having Firefox and Gedit and calling the Myth GUI "the desktop" seems to be a bit unclear on the concept... ;-)


Let's say in some parallel universe, I was building KnoppMyth boxes for customers.. AGREE.. you don't need these things.

Although I wish there was a "real" web browser as part of the MythTV Package... OK, so it's hard to do real web browseing with a remote IR device... I'll let that go!

On the otherhand, I have just installed (i.e. apt-get install ..) synaptic, mozilla, and gedit on my KnoppMyth box. After the ceremonial "apt-get update" .. the apt-get on synaptic and mozilla was a breeze.. and they executed out of the xterm window just fine.. (that is, under user: root.) Then I ran synaptic to graphically install gedit.. ouch-ooch-ugh-hang. (this is where the gui install/update tool does badly) .. the install appeared to be hung.. well, likely, it was quitely doing it's config.. whilest I killed it. (not very graceful) As I restarted synaptic.. it instructed me to fix the problem with a "dpkg --configure -a" .. where, it picked up where I killed it, and displayed the activity to the xterm. .. still, on and on and on it ran. when it completed, it warned that the install had finished in an unholy mess.. but when I went into synaptic (yep, I'm still stuck on the GUI tool.. lesson not learned!) synaptic reported that it was goodly installed. So, what next.. give gedit a try in the xterm window.. and, yep, it works! In short.. I was surprised that the synaptic and mozilla install was smooth, yet the install of (seemly, as simple editor! .. maybe installing elvis-tiny would have a been better choice!!??) gedit was so "involved"..

Yep, I plead guilty of "abusing" the concept.

// Brian
Author:  cesman [ Sun Aug 14, 2005 2:35 pm ]
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BluesBrian wrote:
Let's say in some parallel universe, I was building KnoppMyth boxes for customers..
Then I'd say in that parallel universe you'd be paying me royalties! ;)
Author:  tjc [ Sun Aug 14, 2005 3:59 pm ]
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Hey, is that the same parallel universe where IBM choose the 68000 rather than the 8088 and Bill Gates is living in the dumpster behind a mini-mart in Cupertino? ;-)
Author:  BluesBrian [ Sun Aug 14, 2005 5:12 pm ]
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cesman wrote:
.. you'd be paying me royalties! ;)


where proprietary PVR machines would go for thousands of dollars? (and my PC-based PVR would be as cheap as a used Apple II .. Sure, glad to pay royalties!

tjc wrote:
.. Bill Gates is living in the dumpster behind a mini-mart in Cupertino? ;-)


Likely swiggin' a jolt cola and pounding twinkees with the Woz and the Fry's brothers.

Thanks!

// Brian
Author:  cecil [ Thu Sep 08, 2005 4:32 pm ]
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I saw this magazine in the story today, which prompt me to revisit this... It is interesting how they start off talking about their own CD then essentially go on to review KnoppMyth.
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