New fresh install, everything is working well aside from when i watch live tv between shows it crashed back to the desktop. I know i need to post more info but which logs should i be looking for and where are they?

And the answer is "The more you polish it gets."

Nonsensical? You bet, but slightly less so than a question without enough details for anyone to answer. If you want a meaningful answer you'll need to provide at least basic details to make it a meaningful question. Stuff like; what version of KnoppMyth you're talking about, what hardware you have (motherboard, type of capture card, ...), whether you're talking about SDTV or HDTV, what settings you're using, and so on.

excuse me, just trying to find out where the logs were so i could post them before going into specifics. But here we go

Records and plays back well, just have a problem with watching tv to crash back to the desktop. Without touching any thing live tv crashes to desktop, using alt -m restarts front end and works till it crashes back again.

latest knoppmyth r5b7
basic install
have vfd display connected (working)
pvr 350 (tv out not used)
sdtv
512 ram
remote works (gray)
amd 1800+ processor
200 gig hd
specifics follow


root@myth:~# lspci
0000:00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8375 [KM266/KL266] Host Bridge
0000:00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8633 [Apollo Pro266 AGP]
0000:00:08.0 Multimedia video controller: Internext Compression Inc iTVC15 MPEG-2 Encoder (rev 01)
0000:00:09.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 (rev 07)
0000:00:09.1 Input device controller: Creative Labs SB Live! MIDI/Game Port (rev 07)
0000:00:0a.0 Communication controller: Lucent Microelectronics LT WinModem (rev 02)
0000:00:0b.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)
0000:00:11.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233A ISA Bridge
0000:00:11.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT823x/A/C PIPC Bus Master IDE (rev 06)
0000:00:11.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 23)
0000:00:11.3 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 23)
0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: S3 Inc. VT8375 [ProSavage8 KM266/KL266]

You know what..... I have to agree with this guy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He nicely asks a simple question so that he can better illustrate his problem and typical KnoppMyth Forum fashion he gets pounded in the forehead with a baseball bat.... I am a long time reader but scared to death to ask a question because of the omnipotent arrogance of "bat patrol" here.
I agree that many times people post incomplete or unanswerable questions. But does that mean everyone deserves a Louisville Slugger to the forehead?

I have never participated in a forum who treats its members in such a fashion.

I wont be back. Not that you care, I am sure there are plent of fresh mellon heads to swing at!

Zathras

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Well having spent a lot of time responding to the same questions over and over and writing wiki pages and posting links to them over and over, and still having people ask the same questions over and over, because they didn't bother to do a little basic reasearch, is a sure path to a short fuse.

Searching the wiki for "logfile" or "log file" and these pages come up at the top of the list:

http://www.knoppmythwiki.org/index.php?page=CheckingLogFiles
http://www.knoppmythwiki.org/index.php?page=TroubleShooting

Searching the forums for logfile and they come up in 2 out of the first 4 threads.

Almost every vague undetailed question asked here gets the same response. 1) Provide more details. 2) Search the forums before you ask an FAQ. 15 minutes of reading the forums should make this obvious to anyone. It's a very short deductive step from there to avoiding it, by searching the forums and the wiki before posting, and then asking a good detailed question when you do post.

Now, tell me again why I shouldn't find this frustrating, and let people know that a little more effort on their part would make things go a lot more smoothly?

As for being a goon squad, ... I think you're misreading cultural differences. We're a blunt lot, and call it like we see it, mostly because we're busy folks and don't have time to dance around. Don't take it personally. Do however take the lesson. http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

Finally this REALLY is not intended as a flame. It's a serious attempt to get past the shock of "you were mean to me!" and drive this point home. Get over it. There was no malice or personal animosity behind it. It wasn't done to be cruel. It was done in a tutorial spirit, like the meditatation proctor rapping you with his stick when you start to fall asleep, or the drill instructor telling you to get you a** down before someone shoots it off.

here is all i found from the logs that could be related...


[mpeg @ 0xb7437278]Parser not found for Codec Id: 94210 !
0: start_time: 24.117 duration: 51.018
1: start_time: 32.462 duration: 50.716
2: start_time: 24.080 duration: 51.017
stream: start_time: 267.553 duration: 656.648 bitrate=4523 kb/s
2006-03-28 10:24:01.078 AFD: Opened codec 0x8280910, id(MPEG2VIDEO) type(Video)
2006-03-28 10:24:01.099 AFD: Opened codec 0x8248f10, id(MP2) type(Audio)
[mpeg @ 0xb7437278]Parser not found for Codec Id: 94210 !
0: start_time: 24.117 duration: 51.018
1: start_time: 32.462 duration: 50.716
2: start_time: 24.080 duration: 51.017
stream: start_time: 267.553 duration: 656.648 bitrate=4523 kb/s
2006-03-28 10:24:04.496 AFD: Opened codec 0x82a1870, id(MPEG2VIDEO) type(Video)
2006-03-28 10:24:04.496 AFD: Opened codec 0x82a1140, id(MP2) type(Audio)
[mpeg @ 0xb7437278]Parser not found for Codec Id: 94210 !
0: start_time: 24.117 duration: 51.018
1: start_time: 32.462 duration: 50.716
2: start_time: 24.080 duration: 51.017
stream: start_time: 267.553 duration: 656.648 bitrate=4523 kb/s
2006-03-28 10:24:06.884 AFD: Opened codec 0x82980f0, id(MPEG2VIDEO) type(Video)
2006-03-28 10:24:06.884 AFD: Opened codec 0x8247290, id(MP2) type(Audio)
2006-03-28 10:24:08.843 TV: Attempting to change from None to WatchingLiveTV
2006-03-28 10:24:08.849 Using protocol version 26
2006-03-28 10:24:09.206 RingBuf(/myth/tv/1074_20060328102409.mpg): Invalid file (fd 17) when opening '/myth/tv/1074_20060328102409.mpg'. 12 retries rem
aining.
2006-03-28 10:24:09.708 RingBuf(/myth/tv/1074_20060328102409.mpg): Invalid file (fd 17) when opening '/myth/tv/1074_20060328102409.mpg'. 11 retries rem
aining.
2006-03-28 10:24:10.210 RingBuf(/myth/tv/1074_20060328102409.mpg): Invalid file (fd 17) when opening '/myth/tv/1074_20060328102409.mpg'. 10 retries rem
aining.
[mpeg @ 0xb7437278]Parser not found for Codec Id: 94210 !
0: start_time: 0.036 duration: 0.162
1: start_time: 2805.406 duration: 0.162
2: start_time: 0.026 duration: 0.134
stream: start_time: 0.287 duration: 31172.695 bitrate=0 kb/s
2006-03-28 10:24:12.795 AFD: Opened codec 0x831ee40, id(MPEG2VIDEO) type(Video)
2006-03-28 10:24:12.795 AFD: Opened codec 0x8323b70, id(MP2) type(Audio)
2006-03-28 10:24:12.798 Opening audio device '/dev/dsp'.
2006-03-28 10:24:12.798 Opening OSS audio device '/dev/dsp'.
2006-03-28 10:24:13.530 TV: Changing from None to WatchingLiveTV
2006-03-28 10:24:13.532 Using realtime priority.
2006-03-28 10:24:13.653 Video timing method: USleep with busy wait
2006-03-28 10:24:14.154 NVP: prebuffering pause
2006-03-28 10:27:48.702 NVP: prebuffering pause
2006-03-28 10:27:48.773 rebuffering (81 32768)
it rebuffers a few times a second till the frontend got restarted

did it again, here is more

2006-03-28 14:26:14.051 Running HouseKeeping
2006-03-28 14:30:00.928 Finished recording The Daily Show With Jon Stewart: channel 1035
2006-03-28 14:30:01.052 TVRec(1): Enabling Full LiveTV UI.
[mpeg @ 0xb7497278]2006-03-28 14:30:01.099 TVRec(1): Changing from WatchingLiveTV to None
Parser not found for Codec Id: 94210 !
0: start_time: 118.628 duration: 153.465
1: start_time: 3979.465 duration: 153.462
2: start_time: 118.597 duration: 153.466
stream: start_time: 1317.745 duration: 44603.667 bitrate=199 kb/s
2006-03-28 14:30:01.277 AFD: Opened codec 0x8177d70, id(MPEG2VIDEO) type(Video)
2006-03-28 14:30:01.280 AFD: Opened codec 0x81c5a80, id(MP2) type(Audio)
2006-03-28 14:30:01.341 Finished recording The Daily Show With Jon Stewart: channel 1035
2006-03-28 14:31:14.060 Running HouseKeeping

Hmmm... The "Parser not found for Codec Id: 94210 !" error *seems* to be harmless. I've got that in my logs too. I'm more concerned about the "Invalid file" errors in the "RingBuf" handling, but even that's not a big deal if it eventually catches up (the reader is essentially stalled waiting for the writer to flush it's buffers).

You probably need to be looking in the frontend logs since that's what is crashing.

Don't participate in many forums do you? I can assure you I've seen much much worse. you think we're bad just go over to any debian mailing list/irc/forum and ask anything intelligible or not.

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Xsecrets

Not trying to hijack the thread but I am seeing the same sort of things,
I am seeing a lot of Invalid File errors as well in .xsession-errors eg:

I am running a P4 2.4 HT with a 250GB SATA for storage. Standard def only but I have an Avermedia DVB-T 777 (Hi Def card) used on standard def channels as well as a Avermedia DVB-T 771.

I am also getting a lot more crashes than previous versions, I am currently running r5b7.

the .xsession log is the only one showing anything intresting.

Just adding info in case it helps.

regards

Lee McLaren

2006-03-27 00:15:12.061 NVP: Prebuffer wait timed out 10 times.
2006-03-27 00:15:12.324 RingBuf(/myth/tv/1008_20060327001500.mpg): Invalid file (fd 19) when opening '/myth/tv/1008_20060327001500.mpg'. 4 retries remaining.
2006-03-27 00:15:12.827 RingBuf(/myth/tv/1008_20060327001500.mpg): Invalid file (fd 19) when opening '/myth/tv/1008_20060327001500.mpg'. 3 retries remaining.
2006-03-27 00:15:13.329 RingBuf(/myth/tv/1008_20060327001500.mpg): Invalid file (fd 19) when opening '/myth/tv/1008_20060327001500.mpg'. 2 retries remaining.
2006-03-27 00:15:13.682 NVP: Prebuffer wait timed out 10 times.
2006-03-27 00:15:13.832 RingBuf(/myth/tv/1008_20060327001500.mpg): Invalid file (fd 19) when opening '/myth/tv/1008_20060327001500.mpg'. 1 retries remaining.
2006-03-27 00:15:14.334 RingBuf(/myth/tv/1008_20060327001500.mpg): Invalid file (fd 19) when opening '/myth/tv/1008_20060327001500.mpg'. 0 retries remaining.
2006-03-27 00:15:14.837 NVP, Error: SwitchToProgram's OpenFile failed.
2006-03-27 00:15:14.837 NVP, Error: Unknown error, exiting decoder

I also get this problem front end does not crash completely though I get a message saying, there has been a problem displaying video and a button sayin press to go back to main menu.

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Running:-
Intel 930 3GHz dual Core
Thermaltake Fanless CPU Cooler
Asus P5GS
Samsung 750G Sata HDD
8400 512m Video Card
2 * jetway DVB-t
1 * Haupage DVB-S2 Card
Samsung Sata 16x DVDRW
2048M Ram
1 * Netop Ion 330

still having this problem, anyone else? actually aside from the .xsession-errors log file where does the front end logs appear?

That's about it. What you can try is exiting the frontend, opening an xterm, and running mythfrontend from there. Hang on while I look to see if there's a verbose mode... Oh wow, and how. I'd forgotten that it had that many options... I'd start with:

If that's too overwhelming do:

to see what the options are and pick ones that look appropriate.

I have same errors in logfiles but in my case Live TV kicks me out after 3-4 hours.

Have u guys found any solutions to above described problem?

ok well each time it dies with a segfault, also when watching tv there are contiunous errors,
qsocketnotifier: Multiple socket notifers for same socket 10 and trype write
and
rebuffering errors
if i skip back a few seconds the rebuffering errors goes away but the socket 10 error thing remains. I am running verbose setting with important and general displayed