Hi,

KnoppMyth is a terriffic package for being able to enjoy many forms of media, music,web, news, digital picture and the list goes on as many already know.

However there is one feature that is lacking and has been lacking since when I first started to play with KM ~R4V2 I think it was. That is the basic functions of a vcr. Push a button (or maybe two) and record what ever content that is on the input. Press stop and it stops. Done.

A DVR, PDVR or what ever other tag one wishes to use, that is one thing that can't be done. There has to be a database entry or no record.

Awhile back before the many great steps forward, a forum member robertpdx I believe had a simple script that would allow a simple record function as he would make an entry into the db to make a fake listing so you could record. Sadly, he has not been with us for a while (things happen in life but maybe he will be back) anyway. the changes to new versions also change the db and so now that optional tool no longer works.

With all the features in MythTv one would think a basic "vcr" push the button to record would be one of the elementry items. Anyone have something of this simple feature working?

Thanks
Mike

Assuming that you have a computer all you really need is a tv tuner application. Their are lots of them. For example I use Air2pc card in my myth box and my windows box. For the windows box I use DVBViewer a free app the is designed to work with the card. It is really easy to use you just start watching your channel and then you want to record just click on the recording button and then click the stop button when you want it to stop. It is just like vcr only it is an application.

Pretty simple and basic and handy in a pinch

Hi,
Nice thought however I use KM for almost all my needs. I DO have a windows box ( 98 ) that does a dedicated task but it isn't smart enough to even know what a tuner card is or does.

Thanks
Mike

that was not a smiley face

I don't understand what it is you want. If you are watching a program, it is being recorded. If you want to record it, simple press the record button so it recorded. If after watching live tv, you decide to want to keep it, you can simply disable the auto expire.

Hi,

Almost true and is probably most cases. The key is most people will have a SD account and have your preferred list and all is great. Works just as advertised.

However, if you are using for example, the composite input because you are using a Wal-Mart set top analog converter box to view digital over the air, you can't press R and record it. There is no listing in the data base.

Another example is trying preserve those old family recordings from when the kids were little, (does super 8 mean anything?) and I put a camera on the composite input to record those films as they get chewed up going though the sprocket, I can't press record, there isn't a db entry.

Granted one could loop it through a vcr on channel three or 4 and have some unrelated label and it should record till the end of that show..

I don't know the mysql, the schema for KM db nor enough perl to make something that in my mind is a simple feature that is desireable but missing

Thanks
Mike

I'd think the way one would import old family recordings is by using the manual record feature. A manual recordings does allow you to enter title, etc.

Thats a feature I didn't know it had. Where is it?

It is already possble to record from another source via Knoppmyth manual recording. Moreover, it does not "require mysql, the schema for KM db nor enough perl to make it work. "

The real issue is "how simple is acceptable to meet your requirement."

For example you can go into mythtv-setup and create another source for a turner card. The card needs to be set to channel 3. The source device needs to be plugged into the card. I did this with my video camera last summer. I'm pretty sure I had to dummy out a channel list in order to get it to record the source. This seemed counter intuitive at the time but it worked. This would work for any content like home movies to get it into KM.....

Hi,

Basic vcr level.

If I am viewing some external video source coming in on my composite input, I would like to simply press A button and begin recording with a maximum of 6 hours just like my vcr does.

I do not wish to go through menus 4 levels deep to try to enter something with my remote for a label, dink with the time only to discover it accidentally got advanced to do the record tomorrow.

Is this something excessive?
Thanks
Mike

Would something like pressing record button once records til end of show (as it is now). Pressing a second time ramps up the recording in 1/2 hour increments until you reach a max of say 6 hours?

Hi,

No db entry and therefore I don't get a recording. You press r and on screen you will see "" with the same nothing showing up in the recodings folder. May be I am doing something totally incorrect?

Mike

Mike

An entry needs to go into the database so myth can track it. There are two ways to do it. A dba could make a script that inserts an entry into the table. This is the way you did it in the past and it is the most elegant.

The other way that I did it is more of a hack but it works

I think I follow what you are asking for Mike.
I don't have exactly that but ti does work for me.

In my #2 SBE I have a pvr 500. I almost never need that 4th tuner so I set it up as follows.
I created a dummy database entry for it. as Channel 1.
Then I set it up so that it is from my dumb dish box on RCA jacks through my VCR as a line level input to the the RCA jack inputs on that second PVR 500 tuner.

Then I set it to something like a -15 priority as far a s tuner selection- didn't need that part since it only can select channel 1.

It works two ways for me. The wife forever likes her morning news. Because of where we live she can get 4 am news from Mountain time ( setup to catch with PVR) and live news from the Pacific time zone. at around 6am. Well the dumb Sat dish tuner never really changes so it is always on her news channel. when she says watch live tv it goes directly to Channel 1 (that low priority tuner) and watches her live Portland news. If she wants another channel say Fox, just enter the number and it selects another available tuner and tunes Fox. If she were to press the record button it will Record in 1/2 hour segments until you kill it. Not perfect but it works.

Now If I want to capture some of the Home videos' or others that will never make it to DVD. I just load up a tape and setup an Manual REcord for Channel 1. Add my title and away we go. Of course I have to remember to start the tape on time but hey it works.

I found the instructions through various posts. here and on the Wiki. none of them completely worked for me, but a combination of the group gave me enough that the WAF is improved and I can transfer my Mom's old 8MM and Super 8 that were already moved to video tape to DVD's.


The only thing I would like to change is that 1/2 segments item when you press the record button.


HTH
if you need any details I can try to dig up specifics on how I did this.

Thanks bigbro!

For a bit I was thinking that I had lost what little com skills I did have at one time

But you fairly well seem to understand what I am asking for and it is a simple thing. I just don't have the mental tools to do it.

Really sounds like you could use the one button feature also! The biggest trick would be to adjust the stop time to be current to when you hit stop button, in case you didn't need a full 6 hour recording. I have a lot of those 4 minute reels and I can just envision using the manual prestart through the menu mode!

I only have one tuner (350) so can't lock it down and it still wouldn't have the ease of the one button record even with a second / third card.

I have faith in Cecil, I think once he gets a handle on the idea, magic will happen.

Thanks and have a great day!
Mike

Can you just make something clear for me, does using record in Live TV work for you or not? But does it then just leave an unlabeled program and episode in the recordings folder?
(In which case the database entry would there but without any program details filled in.)

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