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Too Many Secrets
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Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 6:10 pm |
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I was bumping around today and saw this. Noticed the comments below and wondered if they might be relevent to streaming hulu fullscreen.
Quote: After a bit of playing I decided the best way to play the videos was to stream them from the browser. With Flash 9.0.115 the videos can be streamed in full screen. However, video quality is very stuttery when viewing content full screen on my Nvidia 9150 running at 720p.
The solution thus far is to start another X session with a lower resolution. Next firefox has to be launched to the correct page, and then the video played by clicking on the video and the fullscreen icon is pressed. To automate this I use xautomation.
At the moment the only way to exit to Myth is to kill the X session.
I am by no means saying this is the best way to do things, or that my scripts are any good, or that this won't make your PC melt and destroy your life. Its just a start, a few hours coding, nothing more.
By the by, this project (from the link) seems very nice, but only works in the UK. Anyone try to stream the BBC?
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slowtolearn
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Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 6:28 pm |
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Too Many Secrets wrote: I was bumping around today and saw this. Quote: ...or that this won't make your PC melt and destroy your life. ... Hehe, just today I was looking to melt someone's PC, is there a link to that script? 
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myth19kirt
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Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 8:03 pm |
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I run at 800X600 thru SVideo. I have frirefox and watched many videos from stage6 and others without any problems. My myth is a amd3000 512mb, nv5200
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Too Many Secrets
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Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 9:03 pm |
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I'm running 1360x768 with the above choppy flash video. I'm going to run some tests with 800x600 and see what happens.
Any easy way to get firefox in 800x600 without effecting myth at 1360x768?
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entourage
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Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 1:54 pm |
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I've experimented a bit with my Windows machine and noticed on a standard 1280x1024 (greater than 720p) running a Core2Duo @1.86Ghz, it was consistently using 50% of my processor.
I tried what wsweier was talking about with the pop-out and running the small window was around 20% and depending on the size that I stretched it, it would up my processor usage.
This nearly proves my theory that for my particular setup, I need a dual core processor to run full screen.
(Now...how to break the news to the wife...sigh) 
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Martian
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Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 2:06 pm |
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I don't know if this is a relevant data point but I'll throw it out there.
I had nearly flawless playback of a full 480p movie (very watchable) on my Vista desktop in full screen 1920x1200. Processor is a 3.2 GHz Core 2 Duo. 4 GB of RAM in the system.
I guess the point I'm making is that smooth playback is possible even at very high resolutions if the hardware is up to it. I haven't had time to mess with it on my Myth box yet.
Martian
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Too Many Secrets
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Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 5:34 pm |
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Been playing with xorg and firefox. I can get smooth playback if I down rez to 800x600. It looks very good. TOP is about 75% on firefox and xorg pulling another 30%. I'm using AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 3800+.
While running my normal 1360 x 768 modeline, TOP shows 85% on firefox and xorg about 35%. This is very choppy.
I really think this is a modeline/resolution problem. Getting firefox to popup fullscreen in at 800x600 I think would work for me. (Now how to try that???)
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entourage
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Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 7:25 am |
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entourage wrote: I've experimented a bit with my Windows machine and noticed on a standard 1280x1024 (greater than 720p) running a Core2Duo @1.86Ghz, it was consistently using 50% of my processor. I tried what wsweier was talking about with the pop-out and running the small window was around 20% and depending on the size that I stretched it, it would up my processor usage.
I guess I should have stated that running it on the Windows machine (Core2Duo), it ran smooth full screen.
I tried it again last night on the single core Knoppmyth box and after popping it out and stretching it to ~75% of the screen it was choppy and top was reporting 95% usage.
I could really only get it to about 50% of the screen before it became unwatchable.
- Too Many Secrets- I'm not quite sure how you would go about getting it to dynamically changing your res to 800x600. The only thing I'm seeing is the command Code: xrandr
Check out this page and see if it helps: Change screen resolution running linux
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entourage
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Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 8:09 am |
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Well, after about 3 days of testing I've come to the simple conclusion that Adobe Flash for Linux is junk for any sort of real resolution. It works fine if you can stand your full screen system at 800x600 or below, but most of us run at least 1024x768, 720p, 1080i (you know, normal screen resolutions)
*Side note* Both Windows and MythTV play 720p and 1080p content beautifully so it's not that the hardware can't handle it
For my testing I've actually acquired an AMD X2 and tested the same hardware in Windows and MythTV on hulu.com.
Specs:
AMD X2 3600+
2GB RAM
Onboard 7050PV video card
1280x1024 @60Hz screen resolution
Adobe Flash version 9.0.124.0 (both Linux and Windows)
hulu.com - Planet of the Apes (480P version) Pop-out stretched full screen
Windows results:
CPU Usage - 55%-60% total usage balanced between the 2 cores
Playback - Smooth, very infrequent stutter
MythTV results:
CPU Usage - 55%-60% total usage balanced between the 2 cores
**From TOP**
Code: firefox-bin - 85% xorg - 35%
Playback - constant video stutter (audio fine)
Anyway, that's my conclusion. If someone has any comments or suggestions, I'll be open to trying them. I have disabled hardware acceleration (following someones advice) and that didn't make any difference. I've made sure Cool'N'Quiet was disabled (another suggestion) still the same result.
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tonymuka
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Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 7:15 pm |
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Hula video content is coming up short on my 2GHz AMD Barton core too. Too bad, it would be great if it worked as well on my mythbox as on my vista laptop!
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craigtv
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Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 8:30 pm |
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Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 8:27 am |
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craigtv wrote: I've had the same experience as others here with full-screen, but I decided to give the Flash10 release candidate a try. Huge improvement for me, as full-screen is quite watchable now. You can download Flash 10 from here (get the tar.gz) ... http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.htmlIf you need more detail, the installation is the same as for Flash 9 described here (look for the linux tar.gz instructions) ... http://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer/productinfo/instructions/Craig
I installed Flash 10 on my desktop Ubuntu 8.04.1 machine and I have confirmed playback is much improved. I get about 40% CPU utilization in top. With Flash 9 installed on the same machine, 480p videos were choppy at full screen.
The CPU I used in the desktop is a Opteron 165 processor (equivalent to a 3600+ x2 processor) with 2 GB ram and a Nviida 7200 GS video card.
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wsweier
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Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 8:13 pm |
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craigtv wrote: I've had the same experience as others here with full-screen, but I decided to give the Flash10 release candidate a try. Huge improvement for me, as full-screen is quite watchable now.
As craig says, it is a "release candidate".
But that didn't stop me, I gave it a try any way. As I posted on page 1, flash 9 was not cutting it in full screen. Flash 10 works great!
Thanks for the links and information!
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tonymuka
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Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 12:41 pm |
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flash 10 framerates are much better, thanks for the suggestion!
I'm not sure what the deal is, but i'm having a problem with Hulu fullscreen where it shows a blackscreen + audio with no video (flash 10 in firefox 2). Hulu and Youtube both behave the same way.
Firefox 3 and 3.1b with flash 10 both freeze on clicking the fullscreen button in hulu leaving me to kill the firefox process manually. (didnt try youtube)
Are you able to see video in hulu fullscreen? Any ideas for me?
thanks!
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Martian
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Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 9:57 am |
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I finally got around to setting this up last night. It was actually easier than I expected it to be. With Flash 10, playback was very smooth. I'm running an Athlon X2 3800+ with 1 GB of RAM which is a pretty modest system now days. At time of writing I'm running KnoppMyth R5.5.
Here is the basics of what I did:
1) edit /etc/apt/sources.list and change the first entry from unstable to stable
Code: nano /etc/apt/sources.list for me it now looks like this: Code: deb-src http://ftp.debian.org stable main contrib non-free 2) now do an Code: apt-get update 3) In Debian Firefox appears to now be completely replaced by Iceweasel so you will need to run Code: apt-get install iceweasel 4) Following this post ( http://knoppmyth.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=17408 ) I went ahead and did Code: apt-get install mozilla-mplayer 5) I also added the symlinks per the above thread Code: ln -s /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/mplayerplug-in-dvx.so /usr/lib/iceweasel/plugins/mplayerplug-in-dvx.so
ln -s /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/mplayerplug-in-dvx.xpt /usr/lib/iceweasel/plugins/mplayerplug-in-dvx.xpt 6) I then edited my Mplayer plug in config file /etc/mplayerplug-in.conf per the above post Code: nano /etc/mplayerplug-in.conf 7) In /etc/mplayerplug-in.conf I changed the following options as recommended Code: #cachesize=1000 #cache-percent=30 #download=0 #showlogo=0 #black-background=1 8 ) Executing the following command found here ( http://mysettopbox.tv/phpBB2/viewtopic. ... =iceweasel) will allow you to launch Iceweasel (Firefox) by pressing Alt+W: Quote: echo "Mod1 w :ExecCommand mozilla" >> /etc/X11/fluxbox/keys 9) I obtained Flash 10 from the following link: http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/otherversions/Be sure to select "Linux" and ".tar.gz" 10) After placing the downloaded file on your Myth box (I put it in my home directory) you can extract it by running Code: tar -xvvzf install_flash_player_10_linux.tar.gz which will create a directory named "install_flash_player_10_linux" 11) Navigate to the newly created "install_flash_player_10_linux" and then run Code: ./flashplayer-installer Just follow the instructions. The only tricky part is knowing the path to install the Flash plug-in into. For me it was Code: /usr/lib/iceweasel
12) Assuming you completed step 8 just press Alt+w and hit www.youtube.com and see if it works!
At first audio didn't work over SPDIF however I was able to fix it by changing my audio device in the third screen of the "General" settings screen. I can't remember what I changed it to but it worked (I only have ssh access to the box right now)
Thanks to all who made this possible! I didn't figure any of this out on my own and I take no credit for it. I just pieced together information from a few different threads and got it working. The Mrs. is very happy that we can now surf Youtube and Hulu on the TV!
Cheers!
Martian
_________________ ABIT NF-M2 nView | Athlon 64 X2 3800+ | 2GB DDR2 800 | HDHomerun | GeForce 6150 (onboard) | WD 640 GB SATA HD | DVD-RW (sata) | StreamZap IR receiver with Logitech Harmony remote
Vizio 37" LCD HDTV (1080p)
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