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 Post subject: Post-Install problems
PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 1:03 pm 
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Hello all,


just did an autoinstall of 5A10...everything went without a hitch. The only problem I saw is that my video mode wasn't detected. I pressed on anyway figuring I could edit this later. My hardware setup is as follows:

Mobo: Abit KX7-333
CPU: AMD XP 1900
RAM: 768MB PC2100
HD: Maxtor 120GB
TVCard: PVR 350
Vid Card: GF4 MX 440

So I get done and reboot and everything looks good...until it tries to start X. I realize I need to edit my XF86Config but here's the kicker...KnoppMyth didn't detect my NIC so I can't telnet in to edit lilo or XF86Config to tell it my video mode. So I now get to stare at a blank screen. I've tried using the function keys to drop to a shell with no response....so does anyone have any suggestions as to how I can get this working?

FYI: I've got SVideo out of my GF4 into my 41" Sony TV...

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 1:11 pm 
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Does ctrl-alt-backspace do nothing for you?


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 1:18 pm 
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It does drop me to a shell...but it keeps restarting X


I don't have enough time to login :?

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 1:23 pm 
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ctrl+alt+f2 should get you to a shell then you can edit the config file and restart gdm.

If that does not work when it's booting as soon as it says lilo hit the shift or tab key I can't ever remember I always just bounce back and forth. when the menu shows up type linux single and enter this will put you into root console you can edit any files you need and reboot.

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 Post subject: No network
PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 1:26 pm 
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Ok...I've gotten to a shell by hitting CNTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE over six times...this causes the display server to hold off on restarting for a little bit. I then ps -ux | grep gdm and kill the gdm process :)

Now that I'm there I run a
> lsmod | more

Found the tulip driver there...so my network card should be up and running but it's not...odd because it works in many other Linux distros. Ok...anyways, I run the front end off the CD and then the network card starts working? Odd...

I think I'll be able to get things going though....Can you provide me with any direction though on what I need to set the video mode at or what I need to do to get the nvidia card going?

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if X has never run initially the reason your network card is not up is because it gets configured by a script the first time X starts. you can run netcardconfig from the command line to configure it, and once it's up you should be able to use ssh thereafter.

important things on nvida. first if you are displaying to a tv make sure horizontal refresh is 30-50 and vertical is 60. then run install-nvid<tab>

edit: sorry didn't see you were running R5A10 you will have to uncompress and link the kernel before you run the nvidia script.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 1:30 pm 
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Why not use A12? At any rate, boot from the CD.
Code:
knoppmyth screen=800x600

Once the system as boot, quit the installer.
Code:
mount -o rw /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1
cp /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 /mnt/hda1/etc/X11/XF86Config-4
chroot /mnt/hda1
vi /etc/lilo.conf
Change the vga=xyz to vga=normal. Write and quit.
Code:
lilo -v
exit
reboot

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 1:44 pm 
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cesman wrote:
Why not use A12?

This was exactly my question too... Is there still a stale links somewhere that's pointing people to A10 rather than A12? Or maybe a percieved problem with A12?


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 1:51 pm 
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cesman wrote:
Why not use A12? At any rate, boot from the CD.
Code:
knoppmyth screen=800x600

Once the system as boot, quit the installer.
Code:
mount -o rw /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1
cp /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 /mnt/hda1/etc/X11/XF86Config-4
chroot /mnt/hda1
vi /etc/lilo.conf
Change the vga=xyz to vga=normal. Write and quit.
Code:
lilo -v
exit
reboot


Did this and X still does not work...goes to a blank screen. However, at least I'm able to get to a shell so that I can work with things.

The only question I have now...since I've never hooked up my computer to my TV before I generally do not know what resolution to set in XF86Config...especially for Svideo since I've never done this either. Any suggestions? FYI: I have about 15 open pages to the Wiki and FAQ right now...thank god for firefox :p

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 1:52 pm 
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Xsecrets wrote:
if X has never run initially the reason your network card is not up is because it gets configured by a script the first time X starts. you can run netcardconfig from the command line to configure it, and once it's up you should be able to use ssh thereafter.

important things on nvida. first if you are displaying to a tv make sure horizontal refresh is 30-50 and vertical is 60. then run install-nvid<tab>

edit: sorry didn't see you were running R5A10 you will have to uncompress and link the kernel before you run the nvidia script.


Ahh thanks mate...didn't see this when I was replying

I'll report back how things are going. :D


BTW: How does one uncompress and link the kernel?

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 1:59 pm 
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tjc wrote:
cesman wrote:
Why not use A12?

This was exactly my question too... Is there still a stale links somewhere that's pointing people to A10 rather than A12? Or maybe a percieved problem with A12?



A12? you mean version 5A12? I have no idea where to get it at...all the links take me to A10

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 2:05 pm 
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Yeah, R5A12 is the current version. Try this link from the KnoppMyth page: ftp://ftp.rdt1.org/KnoppMyth/


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 2:11 pm 
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great! Downloading it now...I'll start fresh with this version.

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This page still says R5A10, although it appears that the links on the page link to R5A12...

http://mysettopbox.tv/knoppmyth.html


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 3:31 pm 
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FYI I'm Up and running!


Took about 15 minutes after the download. This was pretty easy and I'm going to stick it on my webblog as a 'how to' of sorts since it was pretty easy...


Did an autoinstall (note: make sure the HD is set to hda and not hdb...that one had me stumped for a while)

reboot

kill Xwindows with CNTRL-ALT-Backspace...this drops you to a shell.
xwindows continues to try and run for you...you need to kill gdm which is what is trying to bring you up to login for xwindows...hit cntr-alt-backspace over 6 times and it will flash a screen up telling you that it has restarted 6 times and will wait 90 seconds until restarting...hit ok.

Code:
%> ps -ux | grep gdm

make special note of the process number of GDM here...there should be 2 of them.  You'll only need to kill the first one.

%> kill XXXX

where XXXX is the process number

%> updatedb

This allows you to use 'locate' which might be needed if you have an odd partitioning scheme...let it finish and press on.  This is not absolutely necessary but useful.

%> cd /etc/X11

%> cp xf86config-4.nvidia-tvout.sample XF86Config-4

%> cd /etc
%> nano lilo.conf (or use whatever editor you wish)

change vga=791 to vga=normal then save

%> lilo -v

%> cd /usr/local/bin/
%> install-nvidia-6629-debian.sh

Follow the prompts and select your options.  This should boot you into the configuration menu for MythTV!


Well, that's it...Now I have to read up and figure out what the heck I'm doing next...I don't even know how to configure any video devices yet...but I'll learn. I hope this helps someone else who has an nvidia video card and PVR 250/350 that they are using for KnoppMyth.

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