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adamw

Post subject: TV out on MX440 not working, help appreciated

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 12:36 pm

Joined: Mon Apr 11, 2005 12:12 pm

Posts: 12

Location: Madison, WI

Dear All,

I'm new to this board and this topic, so, hello!

I have assembled my first knoppmyth box with the following:
Duron 750
nForce 2 mobo
512MB RAM
160GB Seagate PATA HDD
PVR-250
GeForce 4 MX440-8x video card

Throughout last week I got this machine up and working (with only a few issues that had to be ironed out), but I've been struggling all weekend to make it work with my TV--which, after all, is the goal, right? I've probably spent 10 or 15 hours over the past few days playing with the XF86Config-4 file and have had no success.

I am using this card in the machine. My TV is a Sony 27" standard def model, and has S-Video in. I hooked the TV up to my PowerBook, and it will drive it at up to 1024x768 with 32-bit color. When I hook the TV up to my myth box, it will display the whole POST and linux bootup sequence. It's just when gdm tries to load that it dies. I either get a blank screen with the "Input 1" text lit (which usually means it can't detect signal), or a blank screen without the text which means that it can see a signal.

I've tried copying the nvidia.tvout.sample file in /etc/X11, and I get the first scenario from above. I've trolled this forum, the wiki, and the internet and tried at least a dozen bits of code or files from various sources with no success. In a couple of cases, I was able to get X to error out, and I got a

Code:

"screen(s) not found"

error. I think that those were typos or incomplete files, but it may be significant. I also ran xf86cfg while hooked up to the TV, and had it make a XF86Config-4 file for me a couple times, and the best result was my second scenario above.

Jarod at wilsonet.com suggests upgrading to the drivers to the new 7174 version, which I think would be a good next step, but I do not know how. Although I'm not new to linux, I am new to mythtv and to debian, so the more basic and complete information I can get is very much appreciated, i.e. "just compile and install it!" will not help me much. I'm willing to read, so links are also appreciated. I tried doing an install of mythtv in FC3 and it was so long and painful that I really don't want to have to go down that road again.

I can post log files and such, if you tell me where to find them. Thanks in advance for your help!

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adamw

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Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 1:03 pm

Joined: Mon Apr 11, 2005 12:12 pm

Posts: 12

Location: Madison, WI

Oops! Neglected to tell you that I'm using R5A12.

Thanks!

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cesman

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Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 3:07 pm

Joined: Fri Sep 19, 2003 7:05 pm

Posts: 5088

Location: Fontana, Ca

There is a sample nVidia tv out in /etc/X11/, have you taken a look at it?

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adamw

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Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 3:34 pm

Joined: Mon Apr 11, 2005 12:12 pm

Posts: 12

Location: Madison, WI

I've looked at it. I've also tried to use it as my XF86Config-4 file as-is, and modified it as well. Just seems like the card can't find the output correctly when X fires up. I'm wondering if there's some weird issue with this chipset or this particular card, because it seems to be working for other people.

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DrGonzo

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Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 8:16 pm

Joined: Tue Jun 08, 2004 7:28 am

Posts: 135

I know what you mean... I had no luck at all with the sample file for the same reason. I did manage to get it working to display SVideo with the 6111 drivers and the following...

Code:

Section "ServerLayout"
   Identifier     "XFree86 Configured"
   Screen      0  "Screen0" 0 0
   InputDevice    "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
   InputDevice    "PS/2 Mouse" "CorePointer"
# Serial Mouse not detected
# USB Mouse not detected
EndSection

Section "ServerFlags"
   Option "AllowMouseOpenFail"  "true"
   
EndSection

Section "Files"
   RgbPath      "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"
   ModulePath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules"
   FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc:unscaled"
   FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc"
   FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi:unscaled"
   FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi"
   FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi:unscaled"
   FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi"
   FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo"
   FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/PEX"
# Additional fonts: Locale, Gimp, TTF...
   FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic"
#   FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/latin2/75dpi"
#   FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/latin2/100dpi"
# True type and type1 fonts are also handled via xftlib, see /etc/X11/XftConfig!
   FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1"
   FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/ttf/western"
   FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/ttf/decoratives"
   FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/truetype"
   FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/truetype/openoffice"
   FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-bitstream-vera"
   FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/latex-ttf-fonts"
   FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/defoma/CID"
   FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/defoma/TrueType"
EndSection

Section "Module"
        Load  "ddc"  # ddc probing of monitor
#   Load  "GLcore"
   Load  "dbe"
   Load  "v4l"
   Load  "extmod"
   # Load  "glx"
        Load  "bitmap" # bitmap-fonts
   Load  "speedo"
   Load  "type1"
   Load  "freetype"
   Load  "record"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
   Identifier  "Keyboard0"
   Driver      "keyboard"
        Option      "CoreKeyboard"
   Option "XkbRules" "xfree86"
   Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
   Option "XkbLayout" "us"

EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
   Identifier  "Serial Mouse"
   Driver      "mouse"
   Option      "Protocol" "Microsoft"
   Option      "Device" "/dev/ttyS0"
   Option      "Emulate3Buttons" "true"
   Option      "Emulate3Timeout" "70"
   Option       "SendCoreEvents"  "true"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
   Identifier  "PS/2 Mouse"
   Driver      "mouse"
   Option      "Protocol" "auto"
Option          "ZAxisMapping"          "4 5"
   Option      "Device" "/dev/psaux"
   Option      "Emulate3Buttons" "true"
   Option      "Emulate3Timeout" "70"
   Option       "SendCoreEvents"  "true"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
        Identifier      "USB Mouse"
        Driver          "mouse"
        Option          "Device"                "/dev/input/mice"
   Option      "SendCoreEvents"   "true"
        Option          "Protocol"              "IMPS/2"
        Option          "ZAxisMapping"          "4 5"
        Option          "Buttons"               "5"
EndSection

# Auto-generated by KNOPPIX mkxf86config

Section "Monitor"
   Identifier   "Monitor0"
   Option   "DPMS"   "true"
   Option   "TVStandard" "NTSC-M"
   Option   "ConnectedMonitor" "TV"
   Option   "TVOutFormat" "SVIDEO"
   Option   "NoLogo" "1"
   Option   "TVOverScan" "0.8"
   VendorName   "KDS"
   ModelName   "KDS1983"
   HorizSync 30 - 50 # DDC-probed
   VertRefresh 60 # DDC-probed
   # These are the DDC-probed settings reported by your monitor.
   # 1600x1200, 75.0Hz; hfreq=93.75, vfreq=75.00
   ModeLine "1600x1200"   202.50 1600 1664 1856 2160 1200 1201 1204 1250 +hsync +vsync
   # 1280x1024, 85.0Hz; hfreq=91.15, vfreq=85.02
   ModeLine "1280x1024"   157.50 1280 1344 1504 1728 1024 1025 1028 1072 +hsync +vsync
   # 1152x864, 75.0Hz; hfreq=67.50, vfreq=75.00
   ModeLine "1152x864"   108.00 1152 1216 1344 1600  864  865  868  900 +hsync +vsync
   # 1024x768, 85.0Hz; hfreq=68.68, vfreq=85.00
   ModeLine "1024x768"    94.50 1024 1072 1168 1376  768  769  772  808 +hsync +vsync
   # 1024x768, 75.0Hz; hfreq=60.02, vfreq=75.03
   ModeLine "1024x768"    78.75 1024 1040 1136 1312  768  769  772  800 +hsync +vsync
   # 1024x768, 70.0Hz; hfreq=56.48, vfreq=70.07
   ModeLine "1024x768"    75.00 1024 1048 1184 1328  768  771  777  806 -hsync -vsync
   # 800x600, 85.0Hz; hfreq=53.67, vfreq=85.06
   ModeLine "800x600"    56.25  800  832  896 1048  600  601  604  631 +hsync +vsync
   # 800x600, 75.0Hz; hfreq=46.88, vfreq=75.00
   ModeLine "800x600"    49.50  800  816  896 1056  600  601  604  625 +hsync +vsync
   # 800x600, 72.0Hz; hfreq=48.08, vfreq=72.19
   ModeLine "800x600"    50.00  800  856  976 1040  600  637  643  666 +hsync +vsync
   # 800x600, 60.0Hz; hfreq=37.88, vfreq=60.32
   ModeLine "800x600"    40.00  800  840  968 1056  600  601  605  628 +hsync +vsync
   # 640x480, 85.0Hz; hfreq=43.27, vfreq=85.01
   ModeLine "640x480"    36.00  640  696  752  832  480  481  484  509 -hsync -vsync
   # 640x480, 75.0Hz; hfreq=37.50, vfreq=75.00
   ModeLine "640x480"    31.50  640  656  720  840  480  481  484  500 -hsync -vsync
   # 640x480, 60.0Hz; hfreq=31.47, vfreq=59.94
   ModeLine "640x480"    25.17  640  648  744  784  480  482  484  509 -hsync -vsync
EndSection

Section "Device"
   ### Available Driver options are:-
# sw_cursor is needed for some ati and radeon cards
Option "sw_cursor"
        #Option     "hw_cursor"
        #Option     "NoAccel"
        #Option     "ShowCache"
        #Option     "ShadowFB"
        #Option     "UseFBDev"
        #Option     "Rotate"
   Identifier  "Card0"
# The following line is auto-generated by KNOPPIX mkxf86config
   Driver      "nvidia"
   VendorName  "All"
   BoardName   "All"
#   BusID       "PCI:1:0:0"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
   Identifier "Screen0"
   Device     "Card0"
   Monitor    "Monitor0"
   DefaultColorDepth 16
   SubSection "Display"
      Depth     1
      Modes "800x600" "640x480"
   EndSubSection
   SubSection "Display"
      Depth     4
      Modes "800x600" "640x480"
   EndSubSection
   SubSection "Display"
      Depth     8
      Modes "800x600" "640x480"
   EndSubSection
   SubSection "Display"
      Depth     15
      Modes "800x600" "640x480"
   EndSubSection
   SubSection "Display"
      Depth     16
      Modes "800x600" "640x480"
   EndSubSection
   SubSection "Display"
      Depth     24
      Modes "800x600" "640x480"
   EndSubSection
   SubSection "Display"
      Depth     32
      Modes "800x600" "640x480"
   EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "DRI"
   Mode 0666
EndSection

Give it a try and see what happens. If you need twinview then that's another story though.

Good luck,
Gonz

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tjc

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Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 8:26 pm

Joined: Thu Mar 25, 2004 11:00 am

Posts: 9551

Location: Arlington, MA

The Nforce2 IGP in my box is pretty close to the GF4 MX440 so you might have some luck with the various XF86Config-4 versions here: http://mysettopbox.tv/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1150 There are both TwinView and TV only configs...

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Girkers

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Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 6:43 am

Joined: Tue Mar 22, 2005 9:18 pm

Posts: 1422

Location: Brisbane, Queensland, Australia

I have this same card and I was able to use the included Nvidia sample XF86Config-4 sample, just had to edit the output details to meet the standards of my TV and no worries.

One thing you have neglected to mention is if you have installed the NVidia driver. With R5A12 it is simple, just run the installer script in the system somewhere. I just can't remember exactly where at the moment, perhaps /usr/src/install-nvidia[tab]

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