I have tried various threads and wiki's to get PVR-350 DVB-T to work with VIA EPIA MII but I'm struggling. This thread was the most useful to get where I am now:

http://www.knoppmythwiki.org/index.php? ... MythConfig

Forget Tv-Out for now, I just want to see it working on my monitor.

1. When I go to Live TV mode I get one channel working (BBC) but it is black and white, covered in snow and is choppy. The other channels just show static and if I skip through the channels too many times it crashes and I have to reboot to get it working again.

2. I also don't get any text in the channel finder windows... if I do ALT + TAB I can see that the freemono.tff font isn't found (+ maybe more) and it then declares that it won't be loading the OSD (on screen display?).

Am I right in thinking that this guide is not necessary with R5A16 running the 2.6 kernel?

http://www.knoppmythwiki.org/index.php?page=DVBHowTo

Would updating ivtv to the latest release help?

I was messing with the below diagnostics because WATCH TV had been giving previous errors such as:

1. Cannot Connect to MasterBackend - Check IP address
2. All Available Inputs are being used for recording
3. Can't Initialise card

######### Diagnostics ###########

=======================
1. # rmmod tveeprom modprobe tveeprom dmesg

ERROR: Module modprobe does not exist in /proc/modules
ERROR: Module tveeprom does not exist in /proc/modules
ERROR: Module dmesg does not exist in /proc/modules

2.
# modprobe tveeprom
# dmesg


ivtv: ENC IRQ OVERFLOW: #3030 Stealing a Buffer, 2048 currently allocated
......etc
tveeprom: The eeprom says no radio is present, but the tuner type
tveeprom: indicates otherwise. I will assume that radio is present.
tveeprom: Hauppauge: model = 48139, rev = K257, serial# = 2979428
tveeprom: tuner = Philips FM1216 ME MK3 (idx = 57, type = 3Cool
tveeprom: tuner fmt = PAL(D/K) (eeprom = 0x74, v4l2 = 0x00400e17)
tveeprom: audio_processor = CS5331 (type = 9)
ivtv: i2c attach [client=tveeprom[0],ok]

-----------------------------------------------------------
3. # lspci | grep MPEG

0000:00:13.0 Multimedia video controller: Internext Compression Inc iTVC15 MPEG-2 Encoder (rev 01)

----------------
4. # nano /etc/mythtv/modules/ivtv

alias char-major-81 videodev
alias char-major-61 lirc_i2c
#options ivtv debug=1
#options tuner type=5
options msp3400 once=1 simple=1
install ivtv /sbin/modprobe tuner; /sbin/modprobe msp3400; /sbin/modprobe saa7115; /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install ivtv
remove ivtv /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove ivtv && /sbin/modprobe -r saa7115 && /sbin/modprobe -r msp3400 && /sbin/modprobe -r tuner

5. # nano /etc/sysconfig/ivtv/cfg-0

IVTV_TUNER='5'
IVTV_TYPE='PAL'

6. # grep tveeprom messages (in /var/log)

Aug 27 22:50:52 mythtv kernel: tveeprom: The eeprom says no radio is present, but the tuner type
Aug 27 22:50:52 mythtv kernel: tveeprom: indicates otherwise. I will assume that radio is present.
Aug 27 22:50:52 mythtv kernel: tveeprom: Hauppauge: model = 48139, rev = K257, serial# = 2979428
Aug 27 22:50:52 mythtv kernel: tveeprom: tuner = Philips FM1216 ME MK3 (idx = 57, type = 38)
Aug 27 22:50:52 mythtv kernel: tveeprom: tuner fmt = PAL(D/K) (eeprom = 0x74, v4l2 = 0x00400e17)
Aug 27 22:50:52 mythtv kernel: tveeprom: audio_processor = CS5331 (type = 9)
Aug 27 22:50:52 mythtv kernel: ivtv: i2c attach [client=tveeprom[0],ok]
Aug 28 12:24:02 mythtv kernel: bttv: Unknown symbol tveeprom_read
Aug 28 12:24:02 mythtv kernel: bttv: Unknown symbol tveeprom_hauppauge_analog



==========
Hardware

VIA EPIA MII 1.2GHZ
PVR 350 DVB-T

Have managed to get fonts working for the OSD:

I had to do:
# cp /usr/share/fonts -rf /usr/local/share/fonts

It makes things a lot clearer, still b&w, snowy and choppy though!

Is there anything else that could need copying over from /usr/share to usr/local/share ???

Im Also in the uk and having trouble getting a pal signal to stay on the tv.
when booting tux watching tv is colour using the tv out on a pvr-350 but when X loads it switches to black and white NTSC i guess..

this part of dmesg

Warning: /proc/ide/hd?/settings interface is obsolete, and will be removed soon!lirc_dev: IR Remote Control driver registered, at major 61
Linux video capture interface: v1.00
bttv: driver version 0.9.15 loaded
bttv: using 8 buffers with 2080k (520 pages) each for capture
saa7115: starting probe for adapter SMBus Via Pro adapter at 5000 (0x0)
ivtv: ==================== START INIT IVTV ====================
ivtv: version 0.2.0 (rc3j) loading
ivtv: Linux version: 2.6.11.9-chw-2 SMP preempt 586 gcc-3.3
ivtv: In case of problems please include the debug info
ivtv: between the START INIT IVTV and END INIT IVTV lines when
ivtv: mailing the ivtv-devel mailinglist.
ivtv: Autodetected WinTV PVR 350 card
ivtv: Found an iTVC15 based chip
ACPI: PCI interrupt 0000:00:06.0[A] -> GSI 17 (level, low) -> IRQ 17
ivtv: Unreasonably low latency timer, setting to 64 (was 32)
ivtv: VIA PCI device: 0x3205 vendor: 0x1106
ivtv: i2c attach [client=tveeprom,ok]
ivtv: i2c attach [client=(tuner unset),ok]
tuner 1-0061: chip found @ 0xc2 (ivtv i2c driver #0)
msp34xx: ivtv version
msp34xx: init: chip=MSP3418W-B3, has NICAM support, simple (D) mode, simpler (G) no-thread mode
msp34xx: $Id$ compiled on: May 24 2005 00:43:28
ivtv: i2c attach [client=MSP3418W-B3,ok]
saa7115: starting probe for adapter ivtv i2c driver #0 (0x10005)
saa7115: detecting saa7115 client on address 0x42
saa7115: writing init values
ivtv: i2c attach [client=saa7115[0],ok]
saa7115: status: (1E) 0x40, (1F) 0xc0
tveeprom: Hauppauge: model = 48139, rev = K257, serial# = 8000418
tveeprom: tuner = Philips FM1216 ME MK3 (idx = 57, type = 38)
tveeprom: tuner fmt = PAL(D/K) (eeprom = 0x74, v4l2 = 0x00400e17)
tveeprom: audio_processor = CS5331 (type = 9)
ivtv: Tuner Type 38, Tuner formats 0x00400e17, Radio: yes, Model 0x00ad2557, Revision 0x00000001
ivtv: PAL tuner detected
ivtv: SECAM tuner detected
ivtv: Radio detected
saa7127: Ignoring new-style parameters in presence of obsolete ones
saa7127: video encoder driver version V 0.3 loaded
saa7127: detecting saa7127 client on address 0x88
saa7127: Selecting NTSC video Standard
saa7127: Selecting S-Video+Composite
saa7127: Turn WSS off
saa7127: Widescreen Mode 4:3 Full Format
saa7127: Selecting Normal Encoder Input
saa7127: Enable Video Output
ivtv: i2c attach [client=saa7127[0],ok]
ivtv: Encoder revision: 0x02040011
ivtv: Decoder revision: 0x02020023
ivtv: Configuring WinTV PVR 350 card with 9 streams
ivtv: Create DMA stream 0 using 256 16384 byte buffers 4194304 kbytes total
ivtv: Registered v4l2 device, streamtype 0 minor 0
ivtv: Create DMA stream 1
ivtv: Registered v4l2 device, streamtype 1 minor 32
ivtv: Create stream 2 using 40 52224 byte buffers 2097152 kbytes total
ivtv: Registered v4l2 device, streamtype 2 minor 224
ivtv: Create DMA stream 3 using 455 4608 byte buffers 2097152 kbytes total
ivtv: Registered v4l2 device, streamtype 3 minor 24
ivtv: Create stream 4
ivtv: Registered v4l2 device, streamtype 4 minor 64
ivtv: Create DMA stream 5 using 16 65536 byte buffers 1048576 kbytes total
ivtv: Registered v4l2 device, streamtype 5 minor 16
ivtv: Create stream 6 using 1024 2048 byte buffers 262144 kbytes total
ivtv: Registered v4l2 device, streamtype 6 minor 228
ivtv: Create stream 7
ivtv: Registered v4l2 device, streamtype 7 minor 232
ivtv: Create DMA stream 8
ivtv: Registered v4l2 device, streamtype 8 minor 48
ivtv: Setting Tuner 38
tuner 1-0061: type set to 38 (Philips PAL/SECAM multi (FM1216ME MK3))
saa7115: decoder set input (4)
saa7115: now setting Composite input
ivtv: Setting audio matrix to input 3, output 1
ivtv: Switching standard to PAL.
ivtv: ivtv_enc_thread: pid = 2276, itv = 0xe0c32aa0
ivtv: ivtv_dec_thread: pid = 2277, itv = 0xe0c32aa0
saa7115: decoder set norm PAL
saa7115: set audio: 0x01
saa7127: Setting Encoder Video Standard
saa7127: Set PAL Video Mode
saa7127: Selecting PAL video Standard
ivtv: Initialized WinTV PVR 350, card #0
ivtv: ==================== END INIT IVTV ====================
ivtv-osd: Framebuffer module loaded (attached to ivtv card id 0)
ivtv-osd: Framebuffer is at decoder-relative address 0x00510000 and has 1704960 bytes.
ivtv-osd: screen coords: [0 0] -> [720 576]
ivtv-osd: original global alpha = 208
ivtv-osd: current OSD state = 39
ivtv-osd: new global alpha = 208 (1 255 0)
ivtv-osd: framebuffer at 0xe9510000, mapped to 0xe1a90000, size 1620k
ivtv-osd: mode is 720x576x32, linelength=2880
Console: switching to colour frame buffer device 90x36
ivtv-osd: fb0: iTVC15 TV out frame buffer device
cx2388x v4l2 driver version 0.0.4 loaded
lirc_i2c: chip found @ 0x18 (Hauppauge IR)
ivtv: i2c attach [client=Hauppauge IR,ok]
lirc_dev: lirc_register_plugin:sample_rate: 10
eth0: no IPv6 routers present
saa7115: decoder disable output
saa7115: decoder set input (5)
saa7115: now setting Composite input
ivtv: Setting audio matrix to input 1, output 1
saa7115: decoder enable output
saa7115: decoder set size
saa7115: decoder disable output
saa7115: decoder set input (4)
saa7115: now setting Composite input
ivtv: Setting audio matrix to input 3, output 1
saa7115: decoder enable output
ts: Compaq touchscreen protocol output
ivtv: Switching standard to NTSC.
saa7115: decoder set norm NTSC
input: PC Speaker
saa7115: set audio: 0x01
saa7127: Setting Encoder Video Standard
saa7127: Set NTSC Video Mode
saa7127: Selecting NTSC video Standard
saa7115: decoder set picture bright=128 contrast=63 saturation=64 hue=0
saa7115: decoder set picture bright=128 contrast=63 saturation=63 hue=0
saa7115: decoder set picture bright=127 contrast=63 saturation=63 hue=0
saa7115: decoder set picture bright=127 contrast=63 saturation=63 hue=0
saa7115: decoder disable output
ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
saa7115: decoder enable output
cpci_hotplug: CompactPCI Hot Plug Core version: 0.2
pci_hotplug: PCI Hot Plug PCI Core version: 0.5
shpchp: acpi_shpchprm:\_SB_.PCI0 evaluate _BBN fail=0x5
shpchp: acpi_shpchprm:get_device PCI ROOT HID fail=0x5
ACPI: PCI interrupt 0000:00:10.3[D] -> GSI 21 (level, low) -> IRQ 21
ehci_hcd 0000:00:10.3: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB 2.0
ehci_hcd 0000:00:10.3: irq 21, pci mem 0xee000000
ehci_hcd 0000:00:10.3: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 4
ehci_hcd 0000:00:10.3: USB 2.0 initialized, EHCI 1.00, driver 10 Dec 2004
hub 4-0:1.0: USB hub found
hub 4-0:1.0: 6 ports detected
NET: Registered protocol family 23
root@mythtv:~#

cat /etc/sysconfig/ivtv/cfg-0
# /etc/sysconfig/ivtv/Readme
#
# A KnoppMyth configuration file.
#
# This file is an example configuration file for tv tuner cards
# that use the ivtv driver module, such as the PVR-250.
#
# If a copy of this file is placed in the /etc/sysconfig/ivtv
# directory with the name of (for example) cfg-0, then, when
# /etc/init.d/set_ivtv_params gets run during boot, the ivtv
# card that represents /dev/video0 will have the following
# parameters set.
#

# IVTV_TUNER is the tuner input selection value,
# if not set the Default of '0' will be used.
IVTV_TUNER='38'

# IVTV_TYPE is the type of the tuner. Possible values
# are NTSC or PAL. A default value of 'NTSC' will be used if
# this is not set.
IVTV_TYPE='PAL'

# End
root@mythtv:~#

root@mythtv:~# cat /etc/mythtv/modules/ivtv
alias char-major-81 videodev
alias char-major-81-0 ivtv
alias char-major-61 lirc_i2c
#options ivtv debug=1
#options tuner type=2
options msp3400 once=1 simple=1
install ivtv /sbin/modprobe tuner; /sbin/modprobe msp3400; /sbin/modprobe saa7115; /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install ivtv; /sbin/modprobe ivtv-fb; /sbin/modprobe lirc_i2c
remove ivtv /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove ivtv && /sbin/modprobe -r saa7115 && /sbin/modprobe -r msp3400 && /sbin/modprobe -r tuner&& /sbin/modprobe -r ivtv-fb && /sbin/modprobe -r lirc_i2c

There has been colour on the tv cant work out why it happens but after a hour output somtimes changes to colour could be /etc/init.d/gdm restart unable to reproduce the results after a reboot..

Wondering if shutdown -h and reboot has a different effects on the hardware

X seems to be displaying ntsc altho intro of tux is colour(maybe pal), untill x starts. this is using knoppmyth R5A16
If I un comment the option in file /etc/mythtv/modules/ivtv
X fails to load and compalins about invalid parms of debug tuner ivtv
and the services fail to start.. So its a CD boot to change ivtv back again...
The tunner is not work well either the picture is scrolling sideways 3 basic colours

parkinpants

dunno if this is right
tveeprom: tuner = Philips FM1216 ME MK3 (idx = 57, type = 3Cool
type is normally a number 38 is your type like mine
this worked for me..
http://knoppmythwiki.org/index.php?page ... stallation
toget ntsc pvr-350 tv-out to work..
the other thing is there a PVR-350 dvb-t (digital video broadcast)
think thats the win nova-t but i could be wrong.

heres my part of my XF86Config-4

Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "XFree86 Configured"
Screen "TV Screen"
InputDevice "PS/2 Mouse" "CorePointer"
InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier "NTSC Monitor"
HorizSync 30-68
VertRefresh 50-120
Mode "720x576"
# D: 34.563 MHz, H: 37.244 kHz, V: 73.897 Hz
DotClock 34.564
HTimings 720 752 840 928
VTimings 576 484 488 504
Flags "-HSync" "-VSync"
EndMode
EndSection

Section "Device"
Identifier "Hauppauge PVR 350 iTVC15 Framebuffer"
Driver "ivtvdev"

### change fb1 to whatever number you got in the previous section
Option "fbdev" "/dev/fb0"
Option "ivtvdev" "/dev/fb0"

### change the busid to whatever is reported by lspci. Note that
### output of lspci is hex, so add a preceding "0x" to the BusID
BusID "PCI:0:06:0"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier "TV Screen"
Device "Hauppauge PVR 350 iTVC15 Framebuffer"
Monitor "NTSC Monitor"
DefaultDepth 24
DefaultFbbpp 32
Subsection "Display"
Depth 24
FbBpp 32
Modes "720x576"
EndSubsection
EndSection

Section "DRI"
Mode 0666
EndSection

this is only a name should change it but hey it not working yet in PAL correct me if im wrong..

Monitor "NTSC Monitor"

Thanks

Hi purple processor!

Ok, I've re-installed knoppmyth a few times since I posted this. My current situation is that the OSD for Watch Live TV is black and white on the television, but colour on the monitor. Hue is set to zero, using the XV controls I can set it to 50 but the OSD still looks black and white.

In any case I still cannot tune any channels and have nothing but static / snow. The rest of the frontend is working in colour on the TV perfectly (SVIDEO from motherboard that is).

As for your questions....
Yes, my tuner is a type 38 - the webpage just got confused that it was a smiley face And, yes, my card is a PVR 350 DVB-T !

Where do I get all the Frequency IDs' from for DVB in the UK?
I have found this on the Hints/Tips page:
http://www.ethics-gradient.net/myth/mythdvb.html
This looks quite bewildering! Do I need to follow this guide if using R5A16?

I've seen the following guides but they just send me round in circles:

http://www.knoppmythwiki.org/index.php? ... stallation
http://www.knoppmythwiki.org/index.php? ... MythConfig
http://www.knoppmythwiki.org/index.php?page=PalHowTo

Are you saying that you just followed the NTSC 350 guide and got TV-out to work from that on a PAL TV?

Cables & Connections
---------------------------
If I look at my instruction manual for the PVR350 I cannot see that I have any outputs other than SVIDEO. However If I plug a composite plug into the PVR card and the other end (SCART) into my TV I can get a flash of green on my TV when it boots up. Does this mean that I do have composite-out despite the labels on the card itself and the instructions?
Do I need to specify the method of TV Out in the XF86 COnfig file for the 350? Given that I currently have it connected to TV using SVIDEO out from the VIA motherboard how the hell do I move to PVR350 tv out?

As I understand it, I can't get X or the mythtv frontend using the PVR 350 TV out. If this is correct then I would have to have AV1/SV1 on my tv connected to the motherboard, and then use AV2 whilst watching Live TV (via the PVR 350 TV out). Thus 2 cables, one for regular Mythtv use, one for Watching TV. Is that correct or have I lost the plot?

XF86Config-4
---------------
Anyway, here's my current 'in progress' XF86Config-4 file as I make the transition to TV Out on the 350 card.

==============================



[/code]

I'm sorry, I've got to query this, as this is the first time I've heard of a DVB version of the 350.

If your card is this one: http://www.hauppauge.co.uk/pages/products/data_pvr350.html
Then it's not DVB.

If it's not that one, can you show us a link to the card you own?

Mephi

hmm,

I must be going insane.

I've been convinced for a long time that I had a DVB-T card.
I distinctly remember checkin that DVB-T was what I wanted rather than the DVB-C versions. I also remember paying £110 for it only 4 months ago. I'm sure the box it came in had all the freeview channels listed on it.

However,
The link you sent me sure looks like my card.
My receipt from DABS just says PVR-350.
The instruction manual makes no mention of freeview or digital

So you're right! It is an analogue tuner.

... and I have truly lost the plot!

Now I must decide whether/which DVB-T card to get!

Is it wise to get a Nova-T on a VIA MII system? The specifications say it requires a 1.2ghz Pentium 4. I guess I can ignore the Pentium part but still I only just meet the minimum requirements. Does a digital tv card still need the magical "on-board mpeg decoder" like on the PVR 350? Will I have problems with overheating in a mini-itx system? What about performance in general?

I see there is no TV-out on the Nova-T so I guess I just use the one on my motherboard.

IIRC DVB signals are transmitted in MPEG, so the card just takes those and dumps them to disk.

So if you're getting good playback of your current MPEG2 streams and you keep the bitrate the same, you should be ok. (Probably)



The only TV card with video output is the PVR-350. Most people us that, or a low end Geforce card (MX, 5200, 6200, etc) with TV out, also I'm sure there are some people using the TV output from the Via ITX boards.

One thing to remember is that you only need one TV out for your Myth box, so once you have one card with a TV output, you don't need any more. And if you keep the 350, you can use that one or the Via one, you don't need both.*

Mephi

*Unless you want to use two displays, which will be a rather dificult thing to setup accross two different video cards.

The epia boards do fine on mpeg2 as long as it's standard def and not high def. the xvmc support on the epia boards is actually quite good, but it will not work on high def.

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