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 Post subject: 350 on a TV
PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 6:32 pm 
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I can't get this damn 350 to work on my TV. I either get an error where it says it can't find a monitor (With A16) or it locks up right when it's supposed to go to the TV (A15.1 - Ctl-F1, Ctl-Alt-F1, Alt-F1 do nothing so I have to reformat). I have both the SVideo and RCA jacks plugged into my TV and there is no picture on either.

I'm following the http://knoppmythwiki.org/index.php?page ... stallation instructions. I even found an error in them. You won't be able to tell what /fb# the frame buffer is using until after ivtv is installed an you reboot. So doing that grep step doesn't work. After a reboot it says /fb0

My card is here but it doesn't want to display on my tv.
Code:
0000:02:0c.0 Multimedia video controller: Internext Compression Inc iTVC15 MPEG-2 Encoder (rev 01)


What should the 0c convert to if I were to try the PCI: line? 12 or 13?

The hardware acceleration is working on my computer monitor so that's not the problem. It just seems to be with the XF86Config-4 file or the ivtv drivers I guess.

Does anyone know how I can get a picture on my TV?


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 01, 2005 1:36 am 
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I agree. I just followed those instructions too, and found the same mistake among others. I'm just getting those horizontal black and white stripe things on my TV right now. Have you tried the instructions here: http://ertw.com/blog/archives/pvrin_wit ... 40605.html


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 01, 2005 7:28 am 
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No I haven't. I'll go through those sometime today. I'm guessing that you don't have hardware acceleration going yet because you have the B&W lines instead of a black screen.

To do that in the Playback options
Turn on the 350 acceleration
Change /dev/video16 to /dev/video1
(It'll work on the monitor, just not on the TV)


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 01, 2005 11:42 pm 
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Guess what... I got it working today. I changed 2 things in my XF86Config file (don't know which one did the trick):
- Changed "Mouse0" to say "USB Mouse"
- Commented out the line: Option "fbdev" "/dev/fb0"
which just left: Option "ivtvdev" "/dev/fb0"

One of them made it work. Hmmm. I'll try another install from scratch on a new drive in a while and see if I can do it twice.

So I guess everything's working fine now. A few buttons on the remote control could do with re-mapping but other than that it's working pretty well.

Oh, and I can't seem to figure out how to set the desktop to a size that fits on the TV screen. Getting the Myth application to fit was reasonably easy since there's a setting for it, but I don't know how to change the overscan on the desktop.

Hopefully you get yours working soon too.

Cheers,
Julian.


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 02, 2005 9:09 am 
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Can you give me a step by step that you did?
I can almost guarentee that it wasn't setting the USB mouse that did it because I've been using that all along and it doesn't do anything with the video.

I just tried installing with the 0.3.3u drivers and I still get the same thing. Unable to find monitor. Can you send me your XF86Config-4 file?


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 02, 2005 11:53 am 
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Unfortunately I have little time today. I'll go through everything that I did and send you whatever files I can tomorrow night (about 30 hours from now).

One other thing I just remembered that I did was to manually copy the ivtvdv_drv.o into the /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers directory. I think that's what made the "no screen found" error go away. (I also of course, made sure Myth was set to /dev/video16 before I flipped over to the TV screen). Not that it's probably relavent, but in my frantic hacking I also ran "update-modules", whatever that does!

By the way, once I rebooted, it took several minutes (the first time) to do anything. In total it was maybe 5 to 7 minutes before I saw the black & white bars disappear, replaced by a grey screen with a mouse pointer. A minute later, Myth started to load. So be patient the first time. Next reboot, it loads at a more reasonable speed.

I'll post everything I can tomorrow, and I'll be doing a fresh install from scratch on another drive to make sure that I don't miss any steps. (There's several folks at work who want to benefit from my attempts too).

I would give you the XF86Config file now, but I've put the SageTV drive back in the machine, and it's recording stuff right now. The Myth drive is sitting out on the table right now.

Cheers,
Julian.


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 02, 2005 2:26 pm 
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One other thing I just remembered that I did was to manually copy the ivtvdv_drv.o into the /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers directory. I think that's what made the "no screen found" error go away.


Okay I'm going to try that now (I just wound up with a machine with no text and no tv so I've gotta reinstall everything again). I tried the 0.3.3u drivers that time. I think this time I'll go back to the 0.2.2rc2 drivers (Or whatever it's called). Which video drivers did you use? the rc2 ones or the 3.3 ones?


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 02, 2005 3:10 pm 
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This is what I'm trying with 5A16 but it doesn't work. I can't even recover from it in the end, it just gives me an unusable computer.

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Boot: tv<enter>
Select standard options in install.  Don't worry about the time/date
Reboot.
Login as root
Set the time and date
DHCP Broadcast.  Make sure eithernet is plugged in before doing this.
Install i686 drivers
Yes delete my card settings
Yes delete my channel settings
Capture cards-> New capture card.
MPEG2 encoder PVR350
/dev/video0
Tuner 0
Video Sources->New video source.
Cogeco Cable
Login/Password for zap2it.com
retrive lineup.
Select the data direct linup that you want.
Finish
Input connections.
/dev/video 0 Tuner 0 -> Cogeco Cable
Finish
Esc
Esc
<Download the channel listings> (Getting a 500 Internal server error currently)
Watch TV to make sure it's working
Exit by pressing esc
Right click->XShells->XTerm

cd /etc/mythtv/modules/
su
pico -w ivtv
Append to the install ivtv line:
; /sbin/modprobe ivtv-fb; /sbin/modprobe lirc_i2c

and append to the remove ivtv line:
&& /sbin/modprobe -r ivtv-fb && /sbin/modprobe -r lirc_i2c
Save and exit
update-rc.d lirc defaults

tar -zxvf /usr/src/ivtv-0.2.0-rc3j.tgz -C /tmp
install -c -m 0444 /tmp/ivtv-0.2.0-rc3j/utils/ivtvdev_drv_o /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/ivtvdev_drv.o

update-modules

XF86Config-4
Set the driver to ivtvdrv
change fbdev to ivtvdev /dev/fb0
Card: PCI:02:12:0

Save
Exit
Reboot


Any ideas on what to try?


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 02, 2005 3:48 pm 
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Wow, this site is taking forever to load right now. If I disappear, it's 'cause I can't load the site (and I'll try again later on).

...anyway, ya I used the 0.3.3u drivers, but I had to copy ivtvdv_drv.o to the drivers directory manually for some reason. I guess the "install" command didn't do what I expected.

As for not being able to get to your machine. That's normal. I had to do most of my fiddling around through an SSH shell from another machine in my house. On Windows 2000, I used "Putty" as my SSH client by the way.

Looking at the steps you did... looks pretty much exactly like what I did actually. I did a whole bunch of other stuff to get the silver remote working too, but that's it.

I'll read your instructions as I do my next install and see what happens.

Cheers,
Julian.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 12:21 am 
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OK, I got it to work on my second install from scratch.
There's 2 missing steps in your procedure:

The important one is this:
[as root]
cp /usr/src/ivtv-0.3.3u/utils/ivtvdev_drv_o /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/ivtvdev_drv.o

(Yes, it's an "_" in the first name, and a "." in the second!)

The other step (not as important) is this:
xedit /etc/lilo.conf
Change the first line from vga=791 to vga=normal
(This just gets rid of that annoying prompt during bootup)

I also noticed that your steps don't include changing "Mouse0" to one of "USB Mouse", "PS/2 Mouse" or "Serial Mouse" in the XF86Config-4 file.

Also, to re-iterate for the benefit of others reading this, there's a mistake in some other docs where they convert from hex to decimal in the section with BusID. Obviously 0000:01:0a.0 converts to "PCI:01:10:0" not "PCI:01:11:0".

I'll post my full (and tested) instructions after this post.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 2:01 am 
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I have written and posted every single step I took in setting up my second MythTV box here:

http://mysettopbox.tv/phpBB2/viewtopic. ... 6317#36317

Cheers,
Julian


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 7:21 am 
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Thank you so much. I'll give it a shot when I get home tonight.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 6:40 pm 
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Oh my god. Your instructions worked!

One note though, the
[ret]
0
[ret]
steps never came up. Do you have a multiboot system or something?

The audio took a little fiddling to get working. I think it's mainly because I couldn't figure out how to save the settings in aumix using the keyboard (Didn't realize you could click with a mouse). That and I was using a headphone jack->TV RCA cable cable and not the RCA->RCA that normal people use :)


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 7:58 pm 
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Hey don't sound so surprised... :)
(I bet it was the "cp /usr/src/ivtv-0.3.3u/utils/ivtvdev_drv_o /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/ivtvdev_drv.o" that did it for you)

Glad to hear it worked for you.
Weird how it didn't prompt you for the display mode like it did for me. It times out and selects the same choice (0) anyway after 30 seconds, so no harm.

So, now we just have to get it all configured!

Any idea how to change the size of the desktop so it fits on the TV screen?

Got a decent keymapping for the Silver remote control figured out yet?

..though I suppose this thread isn't the right place anymore for those questions. :)

Julian


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 8:15 pm 
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Any idea how to change the size of the desktop so it fits on the TV screen?


My guess is in the XF86Config-4 file adjusting the 720x486 settings but I haven't tried it.

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Got a decent keymapping for the Silver remote control figured out yet?


The better question would be have I figured out if my remote even sends input. And the answer to that one would be no, I don't know if my remote is working. :) Well the REMOTE is working (I can see the LED flicker with my digital camera), it's the reciever I dunno if thats working.


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