I have been reading a lot of old threads about it, and from what I understand the concensus was that you need to use ATI drivers and perform a binary patch to get things to work.

But that was for the 3.12 driver, does anybody know if a patch is still needed for the 3.16 drivers? And if a patch is needed, does anybody know the correct addresses in the 3.16 driver? (They are hardly the same as in 3.12?)

Or can I get things to work even without the ATI drivers? (I'm using KnoppMyth R5A16.)

The consenus is avoid ATi.

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cesman

When the source is open, the possibilities are endless!

Yeah, and obviously the concensus is to avoid KnoppMyth too....

Search the forum for reports of people getting TV out and video playback working with Nvidia cards. Now search for people getting it working with ATI cards. The ratio is more than a little lopsided. We're STILL waiting for a good write up about this on the Wiki last time I checked. There are at least 3-4 for the Nvidia.

The bottom line is that there is a very limited pool of people who've succeded with the ATI route and apparently no regular contributors in that group. Those of us who are regulars really can't recommend or support stuff that we don't have the experience with.

If you really think that someone should gain the experience to support you, I'm sure we can find someone who will be glad to charge you for the equipment needed and bill you at their usual consulting rate. On a purely volunteer basis however we'll most likely continue to recommend and support what we have experience with.

Sorry the numbers don't lie: http://www.mythtv.org/modules.php?name= ... ostPopular
Use what you want. But if you do decide to use KnoppMyth and get it working, please post details. Who knows with those details I may include (there is already an install script for ATi) what is needed to get the ATi working...

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cesman

When the source is open, the possibilities are endless!

Ok, someone pull the revolver away from his head and let him use something else

But seriously, I think of KnoppMyth/MythTV like this: I WANT to run it, and, therefore, I'm going with hardware that has shown to be successful. Why flog yourself with stuff that is not easy to get working? If you are really determined to get it to work, but a cheap-o gf4-440mx card and don't hassle the people here who spend a lot of time making one of the more useful Linux distro's I've seen so far...

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MythRig: Shuttle SN41G2 + PVR-350->TV + KnoppMyth R5Beta7

The point here is that I have bought a Pundit-R, I can't change hardware. Though I can change distro.

The friend who recommended me the hardware did it because he runs it without any problem. He laughs at me each time I ask him about problems I have, and he tells me to switch to Gentoo (which is what he's using). So I guess that's what I'm up to as soon as I get the time.

Because I don't WANT to run KnoppMyth, I choosed it because it was said to be an easy way to install MythTV. But as I saw someone alse write in another thread, I've never had as much trouble getting some linux to work as with knoppMyth.

ok fine if you feel that way come on back here and tell us how your adventures with gentoo go that is if you actually do it yourself and not let your friend do it for you. I assure you that knoppmyth is easier than gentoo. And you can scour the net till you're blue in the face and you won't find more than a few people who have been successful getting tvout to work with the crappy drivers ati provides, not that there's any other way to do it.

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Ok, so I downloaded the lates ATI drivers. Install went fine, but the picture ended up on the monitor and not the TV.

Reading docs and getting pissed I told the driver "nocrt1, nocrt2, nodmps1, nodmps2, nolvds". And THEN I got the picture on the TV.

So now I am one of those non-existing people who have successfully got TV-OUT on an ATI-card working.

But I must confess, I did not solve it all alone. On the MythTV forum I found a post from a dutch guy who had been using his Pundit-R since december last year without problems. I'm not fluent in dutch, but on his homepage he listed the software he used so I knew that I would not need patches or special vesions.


So I won't have to switch to Gentoo, but I will switch to Debian as soon as I get the time. I like to have control over what things are installed, and that is something I feel I don't get with KnoppMyth.

Whatever dude... It is open source you get all the control you want.

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When the source is open, the possibilities are endless!

And the URL for the write up on the Wiki is ???

you should be able to install just about anything you want to on knoppmyth, you just need to folow my howto install stuff safely. Right now it's not even safe to install anything you want on debian stable, so there's not much knoppmyth can do about that.

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What I meant is that Knoppix (not only KnoppMyth) does to much "magic" for me to like it. To much "junk" installed. I prefer clean machines.

Of course I understand that the reason is to support as much hardware as possible, but I don't need support for more than the hardware I have.

Using Debian I manually choose anything I install in excess of Base, that way I know what's there.


But according to what I found, using a 2.6 kernel and XFree86 4.4 gives full support for all the hardware of the Pundit-R. But I found that after I downloaded the ATI propriatory drivers, so I haven't had a chance to try the upgrade to XFree86 4.4 (KnoppMyth only has XFree86 4.3). My family want's to use the machine for watching TV, so I don't get very much time to work on it.

You'll find that XFree 4.4 is rather difficult to come by. Everyone moved to Xorg after 4.3 including debian.

I believe you will find that knoppmyth doesn't really have all that much extra in it other than it does have support for a wide range of hardware particularly video hardware.

It would still be very nice if you could writeup what you did to get ATI working, as we've only had one other person claim to have gotten it working did a writeup, and three people claiming that writeup didn't work for them.

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