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Would you rather record or download your content?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 10:40 am 
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Probably the biggest problem with this concept is that of outsiders' perception of the project. I don't know if you remember the sh*t-storm that ensued last year after MythTV was featured in the NYTimes (or was it Washington Post?) and the journalist made it sound as if it were a haven for pirates and file-sharing, etc. Well, if Isaac included a filesharing plugin with the official distro (or if cesman did with KnoppMyth, since its popularity has increased tremendously) I'm sure that would only validate these incorrect views, and possibly cripple the entire project going forward.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 11:28 am 
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I'm agreeing with mgrassi99.. The last thing mythtv and knoppmyth need is something that will make them look like piracy tools in the eyes of the MPAA, the judicial system and congress. Allowing people to download tv shows from everyone else would only make the case for the broadcast flag easier next time the MPAA tries to shove it through congress.

Maybe if you made it so the mythtv boxes had to be paired up before-hand like the old replaytv units. But even that would be iffy and I recall this being the thing that pretty much got them sued out of business.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 9:24 pm 
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I wouldn't ever want anything to compermise the project. But I really do see the future of television being on demand. To bad so many greedy SOBs have to be running this country. Oh, what were you saying about replaytvs being paired?


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 10:45 am 
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Dinki wrote:
To your point about the content being unedited (ie commercials intact), I don't think that will quite cut it either. At one point in time, I was able to subscribe to the major networks (ABC, CBS, NBC, FOX) using my DirecTv subscription. I was able to get both East and West Coast feeds. Then a law was passed that required me to get a waiver from my local major network affiliates to be able to continue to get the East and West coast feeds. The local tv stations claimed that they were losing local ad revenue due to satellite customers watching someonelse's local ads instead of their ads. Perhaps that is true. What I'm trying to get at is that even if you don't cut the commercials, someone is still getting screwed (your local Mom & Pop store who's commercial you are not seeing).

Unless you have the rights to the programs that you want to distribute via bittorrent, you are breaking the law. Many people say it should be this way or that way, but only the rights owner has the authority to decide how their content is distributed.

I'm not saying that I like the way things are, but I am saying that downloading shows via torrents is not doing any good at prompting networks to come up with new shows. The facts are that it takes money to produce programming and someone has to pay for it.


Would this not be possible if the files were labled according to location, maybe zip codes in the file name. Wouldnt this allow someone to download the region specific version uncut. I think if it were my money tied up in this shows I would want it as available as possible. The more viewers the more revenue. I think that if these companies were to think outside the box a little you would be able to download the region specific torrent from there site, it would not take much to put in some coding to keep you from copying, or burning it.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 11:41 am 
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The problem I see with that is how many people just in your zip code would have MythTV?


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oknewbie wrote:
Would this not be possible if the files were labled according to location, maybe zip codes in the file name. Wouldnt this allow someone to download the region specific version uncut. I think if it were my money tied up in this shows I would want it as available as possible. The more viewers the more revenue. I think that if these companies were to think outside the box a little you would be able to download the region specific torrent from there site, it would not take much to put in some coding to keep you from copying, or burning it.


I'm not certain, but I don't think the local stations can rebroadcast a network show without the parent network's permission (both on their airwaves and, in your case, on the internet). It all goes back to my point that only the rights holder has the authority to say how a program is distributed.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 1:43 pm 
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I'm not certain, but I don't think the local stations can rebroadcast a network show without the parent network's permission (both on their airwaves and, in your case, on the internet). It all goes back to my point that only the rights holder has the authority to say how a program is distributed.

I am not sure I did the quoting thing right, but what I was going to say was that my dad was watching pro football and during an ad they rattled off this nice long list of things relating to the game you can't do without everyone's permission, and if i am not mistaken I am not even allowed to describe any aspect of the game itself. And it wouldn't surprise me if I am breaking the law in just describing that ad.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 1:44 pm 
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Yeah, I definately botched that quote. But you get the idea.


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Sacrifusion wrote:
I wouldn't ever want anything to compermise the project. But I really do see the future of television being on demand. To bad so many greedy SOBs have to be running this country. Oh, what were you saying about replaytvs being paired?


It was a short-lived feature iirc.. at one point you could buy a certain model of replaytv, and get your parents one of the same models and if they missed a show you could send your copy to them over the internet. It was limited to units that were paired up somehow, you couldn't just send the shows to anyone. Naturally mpaa/etc raised hell over this and it was taken out of all newer models.

I think they might have left it in for lan networks though, so you could watch shows in the bedroom and such.


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PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2006 5:45 pm 
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After I got a letter from a legal organization, I do not think I will be downloading anything else. The sad part is, it was from a premium channel that I pay for. I just dont have the DVR at the TV with the cable box that has that channel. I was out of town and missed the show.


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PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2006 5:54 pm 
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That bites. But I completely forgot about this forum. It has been like 5 months since the last post before you.


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PostPosted: Mon May 22, 2006 4:56 am 
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Wouldn't Slingbox and streaming mythtv over the internet also violate the local broadcast laws?


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PostPosted: Mon May 22, 2006 6:18 am 
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netwalker wrote:
Wouldn't Slingbox and streaming mythtv over the internet also violate the local broadcast laws?

Not if it is for your own personal use. That is protected by "fair use" in the USA. If you were providing a mythstream signal to other people then you would have a problem.


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