Not really. No description of the programme. And neither them, or NineMSN, detail repeats, HD, WS, or any of the other stuff we would like. And yes, ICEtv is too expensive for me, too.

What I an saying is that new users have something that roughly works (when d1.com.au is available). Blaming KnoppMyth for Perl Module upgrades is a but wrong when we are the ones who have installed bleeding-edge grabber scripts.

P.S. I haven't got v2.* of the script to work, but v1.65 from last week is working well enough for me and a friend. If anyone wants a copy, email/PM

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Nigel I appreciate your help and your wisdom, but please don't take my quotes out of context.

Whether we use bleeding edge scripts requiring perl modules or we need to install perl modules for other reasons that have nothing to do with the latest tv_grab_au or whatever, I was merely stating a fact that CPAN is broken on KnoppMyth R5C7.

I also saw another post from another user stating it was broken on an earlier version as well. cc1 does not accept the "-Wdeclaration-after-statement" compiler parameter, which breaks 90% of CPAN..

KnoppMyth is based on Knoppix, which in turn seems like a Debian distribution from what I can tell. Somewhere along this chain of distributions, CPAN is broken. It could be the original Debian distribution, Knoppix or KnoppMyth - I don't know.

I appreciate the effort that has gone into KnoppMyth, and for that matter, Knoppix and Debian. It is through the time and effort of the developers/maintainers that you and I get to enjoy the freedom we do. I will never "blame" anyone in particular about something not working in a program/application/OS I have had no contribution to.

HOWEVER.

If it doesn't get mentioned - it may never get fixed right? I personally do not know anough about gcc to fix this, but if someone in the development process reads this, and fixes it, GREAT. If not, oh well.

If I didn't mention it, maybe the developer/maintainer would never know?

Other than that, thanks for you contribution to this discussion - it is most appreciated.

Regards,
Ramrunner

Hey guys,

IceTV have a 2 for 1 going before the end of June. I'm currently using that with my Topfield until we see what happens with the EPG debarkle.
$1.50 / week is much closer.

Lester

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I've tried geting it going. But apt-get runs into more problems then it's worth.

Why did that guy use that new version of perl??? Why didn't he stick to old one? I can't even install this application, linux deps are nightmarish huge problem in linux.

I'll have just get the paper and manual input the televison channels, since tv_grab_au is broken on mythtv_systems.

If anyone has got it working?

What are the extact steps geting it going on knoppMyth?

1. Edit /etc/apt/sources???
2. apt install blah??

I find most of stuff here is rather vague and not clear.

root@mythtv:~# apt-get install libjavascript-perl
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these:
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
libjavascript-perl: Depends: perl (>= 5.8.8-3) but 5.8.8-2 is to be installed
Depends: libmozjs0d but it is not going to be installed
W: Couldn't stat source package list http://non-us.debian.org unstable/non-US/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/non-us.debian.org_debian-non-US_dists_unstable_non-US_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
W: Couldn't stat source package list http://non-us.debian.org unstable/non-US/contrib Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/non-us.debian.org_debian-non-US_dists_unstable_non-US_contrib_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
W: Couldn't stat source package list http://non-us.debian.org unstable/non-US/non-free Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/non-us.debian.org_debian-non-US_dists_unstable_non-US_non-free_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
root@mythtv:~#

The ONLY way I got it to work on R5C7 is the way described by Girkers earlier in this thread. Manually download/install the Debian packages then run the CPAN commands to finish off.

In short, yes I do have it working. Thanks to reading these posts. If you read and follow it should work. That's why they are posted here in the first place.

DO NOT BLAME the author of the tv_grab_au script. That is just stupid. The tv_grab_au script itself, I admit, requires a few dependencies which is NOT the author's fault, it is because ninemsn are now using very tricky code in their web pages to cirumvent us grabbing the TV guide. This is the only way he could get it to work again.

His script's dependencies probably work fine when you install them in other distributions.

Unfortunately there is something broken with regards to this in KnoppMyth (see previous posts).

Regards,
Ramrunner.

P.S. It is also no the author's fault about the perl dude, that again is part of the distribution/apt-get problem.

Lester --- can you post a link to that? I can't find any such offer on their web site...

cheers -- j

Well my kernel is dead trying to install new version of perl.

Now i have to setup everything again just because tv_grab_au.

Does anyone know how to back linux onto dvd? like ghost in windows?? a simple way? with all the steps?

root@mythtv:~# apt-get install perl
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these:
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
libjavascript-perl: Depends: libsmjs1 but it is not going to be installed
perl: Depends: perl-base (= 5.8.8-6) but 5.8.8-2 is to be installed
Depends: perl-modules (>= 5.8.8-6) but 5.8.8-2 is to be installed
Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.6-6) but 2.3.5-6 is to be installed
perl-suid: Depends: perl (= 5.8.8-2) but 5.8.8-6 is to be installed
E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
root@mythtv:~# apt-get -f install
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
Correcting dependencies... Done
The following extra packages will be installed:
libc6 libc6-dev libjavascript-perl libmozjs0d libnspr4-0d libperl5.8 perl
perl-base perl-modules perl-suid tzdata
Suggested packages:
glibc-doc manpages-dev libterm-readline-gnu-perl libterm-readline-perl-perl
Recommended packages:
perl-doc
The following packages will be REMOVED:
initrd-tools
The following NEW packages will be installed:
libmozjs0d libnspr4-0d tzdata
The following packages will be upgraded:
libc6 libc6-dev libjavascript-perl libperl5.8 perl perl-base perl-modules
perl-suid
8 upgraded, 3 newly installed, 1 to remove and 687 not upgraded.
1 not fully installed or removed.
Need to get 15.5MB of archives.
After unpacking 1466kB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y
Get:1 http://http.us.debian.org testing/main tzdata 2006g-2 [311kB]
Get:2 http://http.us.debian.org testing/main libc6-dev 2.3.6-15 [2734kB]
Get:3 http://http.us.debian.org testing/main libc6 2.3.6-15 [4731kB]
Get:4 http://http.us.debian.org unstable/main perl-modules 5.8.8-6 [2309kB]
Get:5 http://http.us.debian.org unstable/main perl-suid 5.8.8-6 [32.0kB]
Get:6 http://http.us.debian.org unstable/main libperl5.8 5.8.8-6 [527kB]
Get:7 http://http.us.debian.org unstable/main perl 5.8.8-6 [3566kB]
Get:8 http://http.us.debian.org unstable/main perl-base 5.8.8-6 [760kB]
Get:9 http://http.us.debian.org unstable/main libnspr4-0d 1.8.0.4-1 [132kB]
Get:10 http://http.us.debian.org unstable/main libmozjs0d 1.8.0.4-1 [325kB]
Get:11 http://http.us.debian.org testing/main libjavascript-perl 0.55-3 [28.7kB]
Fetched 15.5MB in 9m47s (26.3kB/s)
Selecting previously deselected package tzdata.
(Reading database ... 64158 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking tzdata (from .../tzdata_2006g-2_all.deb) ...
Replacing files in old package libc6 ...
(Reading database ... 64179 files and directories currently installed.)
Removing initrd-tools ...
(Reading database ... 64166 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace libc6-dev 2.3.5-6 (using .../libc6-dev_2.3.6-15_i386.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement libc6-dev ...
Preparing to replace libc6 2.3.5-6 (using .../libc6_2.3.6-15_i386.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement libc6 ...
Setting up tzdata (2006g-2) ...
Current default timezone: 'Australia/Sydney'.
Local time is now: Wed Jun 28 12:09:40 EST 2006.
Universal Time is now: Wed Jun 28 02:09:40 UTC 2006.
Run 'tzconfig' if you wish to change it.

Setting up libc6 (2.3.6-15) ...
Installing new version of config file /etc/init.d/glibc.sh ...

(Reading database ... 64177 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace perl-modules 5.8.8-2 (using .../perl-modules_5.8.8-6_all.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement perl-modules ...
Preparing to replace perl-suid 5.8.8-2 (using .../perl-suid_5.8.8-6_i386.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement perl-suid ...
Preparing to replace libperl5.8 5.8.8-2 (using .../libperl5.8_5.8.8-6_i386.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement libperl5.8 ...
Preparing to replace perl 5.8.8-2 (using .../archives/perl_5.8.8-6_i386.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement perl ...
Preparing to replace perl-base 5.8.8-2 (using .../perl-base_5.8.8-6_i386.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement perl-base ...
Setting up perl-base (5.8.8-6) ...
Selecting previously deselected package libnspr4-0d.
(Reading database ... 64175 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking libnspr4-0d (from .../libnspr4-0d_1.8.0.4-1_i386.deb) ...
Selecting previously deselected package libmozjs0d.
Unpacking libmozjs0d (from .../libmozjs0d_1.8.0.4-1_i386.deb) ...
Preparing to replace libjavascript-perl 0.52-4 (using .../libjavascript-perl_0.55-3_i386.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement libjavascript-perl ...
Setting up libc6-dev (2.3.6-15) ...
Setting up libperl5.8 (5.8.8-6) ...

Setting up libnspr4-0d (1.8.0.4-1) ...

Setting up libmozjs0d (1.8.0.4-1) ...

Setting up perl-modules (5.8.8-6) ...
Setting up perl (5.8.8-6) ...

Setting up perl-suid (5.8.8-6) ...
Setting up libjavascript-perl (0.55-3) ...

You did have a recent KnoppMyth backup on that machine, right? If so, just boot from the CD and "Automatic Upgrade" should get you going again.



If you had to force it, it was not going to work.

At the point where the forced install is threatening to install or remove stuff that is not related to Perl (like libc and initrd), it is time to bail out.

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Yep, Nigel is correct.

If you use unstable repositories - there is a possibility this may happen. If you then also force the installation - you're almost guaranteed to break something.

Unless anybody can tell me a better way, the ONLY way to get Inmir's tv_grab_au to work at the moment ON KNOPPMYTH R5C7 is install the packages manually (downloaded from packages.debian.org STABLE), then run the two CPAN commands to get DateTime::TimeZone and the other one (escapes me at the moment, something Manip).

Please read Girker's earlier post on this. It seems a round about way of doing it, but it works. Confirmed by me on a clean install.

Regards,
Ramrunner

For those that are afraid of a little work here is a script that will get all the required files for you, install them and then run the other commands as required. This has never been tested as I just wrote it now, took me about ten minutes and that included get the links to all of the packages I had previously listed.



If you try this, please post a reply to confirm it for others.

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Hi folks,

Firstly - huge thanks to Girkers for forging the manual path to 2.* territory. I have not the experience or the nouse currently to get from A to B without a bit of hand-holding. I followed the manual download/install path of all the individual elements, paying careful attention to get the right versions of everything as listed.

Now, I notice Girkers and Ramrunner, you both say you get a stream of errors during the running of your tv_grab_au. I am also getting these errors, but wondered if I might be receiving the errors you are and then some... Girkers, you mentioned that your errors seemed to be to do with the write_Ad - I'm getting others in addition to this though.

I can't actually run a successful --configure without receiving these unrelated errors. After entering the time zone, I immediately am faced with...



I answer my way through the questions to do with services and locations without errors and then receive the following:



...and at that point it terminates, seemingly wihtout having written any config file.

Did you folks have this and just ignore it, or is this a new one?

Anyone have any leads as to what I could try?

Thanks in advance for anything anyone can offer...

Josh

yeh i have the same errors coming up but all the data has loaded for me.

glad the script is working again for now.

I tried the tv_grab_au_reg script for tvguide.org.au but couldn't get that to work at all anyone had any luck there?

dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of libjavascript-perl:
libjavascript-perl depends on libsmjs1; however:
Package libsmjs1 is not installed.
dpkg: error processing libjavascript-perl (--install):


The script doesn't work it fails to install libjavascript

root@mythtv:~# tv_grab_au
Can't load '/usr/lib/perl5/auto/JavaScript/JavaScript.so' for module JavaScript: libsmjs.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory at /usr/lib/perl/5.8/DynaLoader.pm line 225.
at /usr/bin/tv_grab_au line 135
Compilation failed in require at /usr/bin/tv_grab_au line 135.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/bin/tv_grab_au line 135.

I have found that if you go to http://packages.debian.org you can resolve all of your dependency problems.

I have just recently d/l 2.5 of the script and found that it had new dependancies which I have resolved. I will give you an update later. I can now run the script without any error messages.

Watch this thread for updates.

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Once things settle down a little, we should give cesman the list of dependencies in the hope that he will add them to the next release.