Ok here is the deal.

I ordered a PVR-150 from the egg and they sent me a 150MCE instead.
I have tried several times to install knoppmyth, and I have followed the multiple guides for installation but no avail. I have tried all the different settings i could think of. I get the GUI working and everything, but I can't watch live tv, I select it and nothing even happens. No black screen, no static, no nothing. I don't think that I am installing the card right, but i am not sure.

Is there some trick for getting this to work? Is there a certain log file i need to look at to help you guys out? If you guys could give some things to look for and/or some installation tips I would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks for your time.

Extract the "ivtv" section as descriubed here and post it. http://www.knoppmythwiki.org/index.php? ... ngLogFiles

If the tuner type is unrecognized try this to upgrade the ivtv drivers. http://www.knoppmythwiki.org/index.php?page=CompileIvtv

There doesn't seem to be any errors, but I am pretty nub when it comes to this stuff.

Thanks for responding so quickly.


Aug 3 20:52:58 mythtv kernel: ivtv: ==================== START INIT IVTV ====================
Aug 3 20:52:58 mythtv kernel: ivtv: version 0.4.4 (tagged release) loading
Aug 3 20:52:58 mythtv kernel: ivtv: Linux version: 2.6.15-chw-2 SMP preempt 586 gcc-3.3
Aug 3 20:52:58 mythtv kernel: ivtv: In case of problems please include the debug info between
Aug 3 20:52:58 mythtv kernel: ivtv: the START INIT IVTV and END INIT IVTV lines, along with
Aug 3 20:52:58 mythtv kernel: ivtv: any module options, when mailing the ivtv-users mailinglist.
Aug 3 20:52:58 mythtv kernel: ivtv0: Autodetected WinTV PVR 150 card (cx23416 based)
Aug 3 20:52:58 mythtv kernel: PCI: Enabling device 0000:00:03.0 (0004 -> 0006)
Aug 3 20:52:58 mythtv kernel: ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKA] enabled at IRQ 3
Aug 3 20:52:58 mythtv kernel: PCI: setting IRQ 3 as level-triggered
Aug 3 20:52:58 mythtv kernel: ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:03.0[A] -> Link [LNKA] -> GSI 3 (level, low) -> IRQ 3
Aug 3 20:52:58 mythtv kernel: ivtv0: i2c attach to card #0 ok [client=tveeprom, addr=50]
Aug 3 20:52:58 mythtv kernel: tuner 0-0061: chip found @ 0xc2 (ivtv i2c driver #0)
Aug 3 20:52:58 mythtv kernel: ivtv0: i2c attach to card #0 ok [client=(tuner unset), addr=61]
Aug 3 20:52:58 mythtv kernel: cx25840 0-0044: cx25843-23 found @ 0x88 (ivtv i2c driver #0)
Aug 3 20:53:01 mythtv kernel: cx25840 0-0044: loaded v4l-cx25840.fw firmware (14264 bytes)
Aug 3 20:53:01 mythtv kernel: ivtv0: i2c attach to card #0 ok [client=cx25840, addr=44]
Aug 3 20:53:01 mythtv kernel: wm8775 0-001b: chip found @ 0x36 (ivtv i2c driver #0)
Aug 3 20:53:01 mythtv kernel: ivtv0: i2c attach to card #0 ok [client=wm8775, addr=1b]
Aug 3 20:53:01 mythtv kernel: tveeprom 0-0050: Hauppauge model 26582, rev F0B2, serial# 9655267
Aug 3 20:53:01 mythtv kernel: tveeprom 0-0050: tuner model is TCL M2523_5N_E (idx 112, type 4)
Aug 3 20:53:01 mythtv kernel: tveeprom 0-0050: TV standards NTSC(M) (eeprom 0x08)
Aug 3 20:53:01 mythtv kernel: tveeprom 0-0050: audio processor is CX25843 (idx 37)
Aug 3 20:53:01 mythtv kernel: tveeprom 0-0050: decoder processor is CX25843 (idx 30)
Aug 3 20:53:01 mythtv kernel: tveeprom 0-0050: has no radio, has no IR remote
Aug 3 20:53:02 mythtv kernel: ivtv0: loaded v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw firmware (262144 bytes)
Aug 3 20:53:02 mythtv kernel: ivtv0: Encoder revision: 0x02050032
Aug 3 20:53:02 mythtv kernel: ivtv0: Allocate DMA encoder MPEG stream: 128 x 32768 buffers (4096KB total)
Aug 3 20:53:02 mythtv kernel: ivtv0: Allocate DMA encoder YUV stream: 194 x 10800 buffers (2048KB total)
Aug 3 20:53:02 mythtv kernel: ivtv0: Allocate DMA encoder VBI stream: 120 x 17472 buffers (2048KB total)
Aug 3 20:53:02 mythtv kernel: ivtv0: Allocate DMA encoder PCM audio stream: 455 x 4608 buffers (2048KB total)
Aug 3 20:53:02 mythtv kernel: tuner 0-0061: tuner type not set
Aug 3 20:53:02 mythtv kernel: tuner 0-0061: tuner type not set
Aug 3 20:53:02 mythtv kernel: ivtv0: Initialized WinTV PVR 150, card #0
Aug 3 20:53:02 mythtv kernel: ivtv: ==================== END INIT IVTV ====================
Aug 3 20:59:45 mythtv kernel: ivtv: ==================== START INIT IVTV ====================
Aug 3 20:59:45 mythtv kernel: ivtv: version 0.4.4 (tagged release) loading
Aug 3 20:59:45 mythtv kernel: ivtv: Linux version: 2.6.15-chw-2 SMP preempt 586 gcc-3.3
Aug 3 20:59:45 mythtv kernel: ivtv: In case of problems please include the debug info between
Aug 3 20:59:45 mythtv kernel: ivtv: the START INIT IVTV and END INIT IVTV lines, along with
Aug 3 20:59:45 mythtv kernel: ivtv: any module options, when mailing the ivtv-users mailinglist.
Aug 3 20:59:45 mythtv kernel: ivtv0: Autodetected WinTV PVR 150 card (cx23416 based)
Aug 3 20:59:45 mythtv kernel: ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:03.0[A] -> Link [LNKA] -> GSI 3 (level, low) -> IRQ 3
Aug 3 20:59:45 mythtv kernel: ivtv0: i2c attach to card #0 ok [client=tveeprom, addr=50]
Aug 3 20:59:45 mythtv kernel: tuner 0-0061: chip found @ 0xc2 (ivtv i2c driver #0)
Aug 3 20:59:45 mythtv kernel: ivtv0: i2c attach to card #0 ok [client=(tuner unset), addr=61]
Aug 3 20:59:46 mythtv kernel: cx25840 0-0044: cx25843-23 found @ 0x88 (ivtv i2c driver #0)
Aug 3 20:59:48 mythtv kernel: cx25840 0-0044: loaded v4l-cx25840.fw firmware (14264 bytes)
Aug 3 20:59:48 mythtv kernel: ivtv0: i2c attach to card #0 ok [client=cx25840, addr=44]
Aug 3 20:59:48 mythtv kernel: wm8775 0-001b: chip found @ 0x36 (ivtv i2c driver #0)
Aug 3 20:59:48 mythtv kernel: ivtv0: i2c attach to card #0 ok [client=wm8775, addr=1b]
Aug 3 20:59:48 mythtv kernel: tveeprom 0-0050: Hauppauge model 26582, rev F0B2, serial# 9655267
Aug 3 20:59:48 mythtv kernel: tveeprom 0-0050: tuner model is TCL M2523_5N_E (idx 112, type 4)
Aug 3 20:59:48 mythtv kernel: tveeprom 0-0050: TV standards NTSC(M) (eeprom 0x08)
Aug 3 20:59:48 mythtv kernel: tveeprom 0-0050: audio processor is CX25843 (idx 37)
Aug 3 20:59:48 mythtv kernel: tveeprom 0-0050: decoder processor is CX25843 (idx 30)
Aug 3 20:59:48 mythtv kernel: tveeprom 0-0050: has no radio, has no IR remote
Aug 3 20:59:49 mythtv kernel: ivtv0: loaded v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw firmware (262144 bytes)
Aug 3 20:59:49 mythtv kernel: ivtv0: Encoder revision: 0x02050032
Aug 3 20:59:50 mythtv kernel: ivtv0: Allocate DMA encoder MPEG stream: 128 x 32768 buffers (4096KB total)
Aug 3 20:59:50 mythtv kernel: ivtv0: Allocate DMA encoder YUV stream: 194 x 10800 buffers (2048KB total)
Aug 3 20:59:50 mythtv kernel: ivtv0: Allocate DMA encoder VBI stream: 120 x 17472 buffers (2048KB total)
Aug 3 20:59:50 mythtv kernel: ivtv0: Allocate DMA encoder PCM audio stream: 455 x 4608 buffers (2048KB total)
Aug 3 20:59:50 mythtv kernel: tuner 0-0061: tuner type not set
Aug 3 20:59:50 mythtv kernel: tuner 0-0061: tuner type not set
Aug 3 20:59:50 mythtv kernel: ivtv0: Initialized WinTV PVR 150, card #0
Aug 3 20:59:50 mythtv kernel: ivtv: ==================== END INIT IVTV ====================
Aug 3 22:14:57 mythtv kernel: ivtv: ==================== START INIT IVTV ====================
Aug 3 22:14:57 mythtv kernel: ivtv: version 0.4.4 (tagged release) loading
Aug 3 22:14:57 mythtv kernel: ivtv: Linux version: 2.6.15-chw-2 SMP preempt 586 gcc-3.3
Aug 3 22:14:57 mythtv kernel: ivtv: In case of problems please include the debug info between
Aug 3 22:14:57 mythtv kernel: ivtv: the START INIT IVTV and END INIT IVTV lines, along with
Aug 3 22:14:57 mythtv kernel: ivtv: any module options, when mailing the ivtv-users mailinglist.
Aug 3 22:14:57 mythtv kernel: ivtv0: Autodetected WinTV PVR 150 card (cx23416 based)
Aug 3 22:14:57 mythtv kernel: PCI: Enabling device 0000:00:03.0 (0004 -> 0006)
Aug 3 22:14:57 mythtv kernel: ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKA] enabled at IRQ 3
Aug 3 22:14:57 mythtv kernel: PCI: setting IRQ 3 as level-triggered
Aug 3 22:14:57 mythtv kernel: ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:03.0[A] -> Link [LNKA] -> GSI 3 (level, low) -> IRQ 3
Aug 3 22:14:57 mythtv kernel: ivtv0: i2c attach to card #0 ok [client=tveeprom, addr=50]
Aug 3 22:14:57 mythtv kernel: tuner 0-0061: chip found @ 0xc2 (ivtv i2c driver #0)
Aug 3 22:14:57 mythtv kernel: ivtv0: i2c attach to card #0 ok [client=(tuner unset), addr=61]
Aug 3 22:14:58 mythtv kernel: cx25840 0-0044: cx25843-23 found @ 0x88 (ivtv i2c driver #0)
Aug 3 22:15:00 mythtv kernel: cx25840 0-0044: loaded v4l-cx25840.fw firmware (14264 bytes)
Aug 3 22:15:00 mythtv kernel: ivtv0: i2c attach to card #0 ok [client=cx25840, addr=44]
Aug 3 22:15:00 mythtv kernel: wm8775 0-001b: chip found @ 0x36 (ivtv i2c driver #0)
Aug 3 22:15:00 mythtv kernel: ivtv0: i2c attach to card #0 ok [client=wm8775, addr=1b]
Aug 3 22:15:01 mythtv kernel: tveeprom 0-0050: Hauppauge model 26582, rev F0B2, serial# 9655267
Aug 3 22:15:01 mythtv kernel: tveeprom 0-0050: tuner model is TCL M2523_5N_E (idx 112, type 4)
Aug 3 22:15:01 mythtv kernel: tveeprom 0-0050: TV standards NTSC(M) (eeprom 0x08)
Aug 3 22:15:01 mythtv kernel: tveeprom 0-0050: audio processor is CX25843 (idx 37)
Aug 3 22:15:01 mythtv kernel: tveeprom 0-0050: decoder processor is CX25843 (idx 30)
Aug 3 22:15:01 mythtv kernel: tveeprom 0-0050: has no radio, has no IR remote
Aug 3 22:15:02 mythtv kernel: ivtv0: loaded v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw firmware (262144 bytes)
Aug 3 22:15:02 mythtv kernel: ivtv0: Encoder revision: 0x02050032
Aug 3 22:15:02 mythtv kernel: ivtv0: Allocate DMA encoder MPEG stream: 128 x 32768 buffers (4096KB total)
Aug 3 22:15:02 mythtv kernel: ivtv0: Allocate DMA encoder YUV stream: 194 x 10800 buffers (2048KB total)
Aug 3 22:15:02 mythtv kernel: ivtv0: Allocate DMA encoder VBI stream: 120 x 17472 buffers (2048KB total)
Aug 3 22:15:02 mythtv kernel: ivtv0: Allocate DMA encoder PCM audio stream: 455 x 4608 buffers (2048KB total)
Aug 3 22:15:02 mythtv kernel: tuner 0-0061: tuner type not set
Aug 3 22:15:02 mythtv kernel: tuner 0-0061: tuner type not set
Aug 3 22:15:02 mythtv kernel: ivtv0: Initialized WinTV PVR 150, card #0
Aug 3 22:15:02 mythtv kernel: ivtv: ==================== END INIT IVTV ====================
Aug 3 22:15:57 mythtv kernel: ivtv: ==================== START INIT IVTV ====================
Aug 3 22:15:57 mythtv kernel: ivtv: version 0.4.4 (tagged release) loading
Aug 3 22:15:57 mythtv kernel: ivtv: Linux version: 2.6.15-chw-2 SMP preempt 586 gcc-3.3
Aug 3 22:15:57 mythtv kernel: ivtv: In case of problems please include the debug info between
Aug 3 22:15:57 mythtv kernel: ivtv: the START INIT IVTV and END INIT IVTV lines, along with
Aug 3 22:15:57 mythtv kernel: ivtv: any module options, when mailing the ivtv-users mailinglist.
Aug 3 22:15:57 mythtv kernel: ivtv0: Autodetected WinTV PVR 150 card (cx23416 based)
Aug 3 22:15:57 mythtv kernel: ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:03.0[A] -> Link [LNKA] -> GSI 3 (level, low) -> IRQ 3
Aug 3 22:15:57 mythtv kernel: ivtv0: i2c attach to card #0 ok [client=tveeprom, addr=50]
Aug 3 22:15:57 mythtv kernel: tuner 0-0061: chip found @ 0xc2 (ivtv i2c driver #0)
Aug 3 22:15:57 mythtv kernel: ivtv0: i2c attach to card #0 ok [client=(tuner unset), addr=61]
Aug 3 22:15:57 mythtv kernel: cx25840 0-0044: cx25843-23 found @ 0x88 (ivtv i2c driver #0)
Aug 3 22:15:59 mythtv kernel: cx25840 0-0044: loaded v4l-cx25840.fw firmware (14264 bytes)
Aug 3 22:15:59 mythtv kernel: ivtv0: i2c attach to card #0 ok [client=cx25840, addr=44]
Aug 3 22:15:59 mythtv kernel: wm8775 0-001b: chip found @ 0x36 (ivtv i2c driver #0)
Aug 3 22:15:59 mythtv kernel: ivtv0: i2c attach to card #0 ok [client=wm8775, addr=1b]
Aug 3 22:16:00 mythtv kernel: tveeprom 0-0050: Hauppauge model 26582, rev F0B2, serial# 9655267
Aug 3 22:16:00 mythtv kernel: tveeprom 0-0050: tuner model is TCL M2523_5N_E (idx 112, type 4)
Aug 3 22:16:00 mythtv kernel: tveeprom 0-0050: TV standards NTSC(M) (eeprom 0x08)
Aug 3 22:16:00 mythtv kernel: tveeprom 0-0050: audio processor is CX25843 (idx 37)
Aug 3 22:16:00 mythtv kernel: tveeprom 0-0050: decoder processor is CX25843 (idx 30)
Aug 3 22:16:00 mythtv kernel: tveeprom 0-0050: has no radio, has no IR remote
Aug 3 22:16:01 mythtv kernel: ivtv0: loaded v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw firmware (262144 bytes)
Aug 3 22:16:01 mythtv kernel: ivtv0: Encoder revision: 0x02050032
Aug 3 22:16:01 mythtv kernel: ivtv0: Allocate DMA encoder MPEG stream: 128 x 32768 buffers (4096KB total)
Aug 3 22:16:01 mythtv kernel: ivtv0: Allocate DMA encoder YUV stream: 194 x 10800 buffers (2048KB total)
Aug 3 22:16:01 mythtv kernel: ivtv0: Allocate DMA encoder VBI stream: 120 x 17472 buffers (2048KB total)
Aug 3 22:16:01 mythtv kernel: ivtv0: Allocate DMA encoder PCM audio stream: 455 x 4608 buffers (2048KB total)
Aug 3 22:16:01 mythtv kernel: tuner 0-0061: tuner type not set
Aug 3 22:16:01 mythtv kernel: tuner 0-0061: tuner type not set
Aug 3 22:16:01 mythtv kernel: ivtv0: Initialized WinTV PVR 150, card #0
Aug 3 22:16:01 mythtv kernel: ivtv: ==================== END INIT IVTV ====================
Aug 3 23:35:56 mythtv kernel: ivtv: ==================== START INIT IVTV ====================
Aug 3 23:35:56 mythtv kernel: ivtv: version 0.4.4 (tagged release) loading
Aug 3 23:35:56 mythtv kernel: ivtv: Linux version: 2.6.15-chw-2 SMP preempt 586 gcc-3.3
Aug 3 23:35:56 mythtv kernel: ivtv: In case of problems please include the debug info between
Aug 3 23:35:56 mythtv kernel: ivtv: the START INIT IVTV and END INIT IVTV lines, along with
Aug 3 23:35:56 mythtv kernel: ivtv: any module options, when mailing the ivtv-users mailinglist.
Aug 3 23:35:56 mythtv kernel: ivtv0: Autodetected WinTV PVR 150 card (cx23416 based)
Aug 3 23:35:56 mythtv kernel: PCI: Enabling device 0000:00:03.0 (0004 -> 0006)
Aug 3 23:35:56 mythtv kernel: ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKA] enabled at IRQ 3
Aug 3 23:35:56 mythtv kernel: PCI: setting IRQ 3 as level-triggered
Aug 3 23:35:56 mythtv kernel: ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:03.0[A] -> Link [LNKA] -> GSI 3 (level, low) -> IRQ 3
Aug 3 23:35:56 mythtv kernel: ivtv0: i2c attach to card #0 ok [client=tveeprom, addr=50]
Aug 3 23:35:56 mythtv kernel: tuner 0-0061: chip found @ 0xc2 (ivtv i2c driver #0)
Aug 3 23:35:56 mythtv kernel: ivtv0: i2c attach to card #0 ok [client=(tuner unset), addr=61]
Aug 3 23:35:56 mythtv kernel: cx25840 0-0044: cx25843-23 found @ 0x88 (ivtv i2c driver #0)
Aug 3 23:35:58 mythtv kernel: cx25840 0-0044: loaded v4l-cx25840.fw firmware (14264 bytes)
Aug 3 23:35:58 mythtv kernel: ivtv0: i2c attach to card #0 ok [client=cx25840, addr=44]
Aug 3 23:35:58 mythtv kernel: wm8775 0-001b: chip found @ 0x36 (ivtv i2c driver #0)
Aug 3 23:35:58 mythtv kernel: ivtv0: i2c attach to card #0 ok [client=wm8775, addr=1b]
Aug 3 23:35:58 mythtv kernel: tveeprom 0-0050: Hauppauge model 26582, rev F0B2, serial# 9655267
Aug 3 23:35:58 mythtv kernel: tveeprom 0-0050: tuner model is TCL M2523_5N_E (idx 112, type 4)
Aug 3 23:35:58 mythtv kernel: tveeprom 0-0050: TV standards NTSC(M) (eeprom 0x08)
Aug 3 23:35:58 mythtv kernel: tveeprom 0-0050: audio processor is CX25843 (idx 37)
Aug 3 23:35:58 mythtv kernel: tveeprom 0-0050: decoder processor is CX25843 (idx 30)
Aug 3 23:35:58 mythtv kernel: tveeprom 0-0050: has no radio, has no IR remote
Aug 3 23:35:59 mythtv kernel: ivtv0: loaded v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw firmware (262144 bytes)
Aug 3 23:36:00 mythtv kernel: ivtv0: Encoder revision: 0x02050032
Aug 3 23:36:00 mythtv kernel: ivtv0: Allocate DMA encoder MPEG stream: 128 x 32768 buffers (4096KB total)
Aug 3 23:36:00 mythtv kernel: ivtv0: Allocate DMA encoder YUV stream: 194 x 10800 buffers (2048KB total)
Aug 3 23:36:00 mythtv kernel: ivtv0: Allocate DMA encoder VBI stream: 120 x 17472 buffers (2048KB total)
Aug 3 23:36:00 mythtv kernel: ivtv0: Allocate DMA encoder PCM audio stream: 455 x 4608 buffers (2048KB total)
Aug 3 23:36:00 mythtv kernel: tuner 0-0061: tuner type not set
Aug 3 23:36:00 mythtv kernel: tuner 0-0061: tuner type not set
Aug 3 23:36:00 mythtv kernel: ivtv0: Initialized WinTV PVR 150, card #0
Aug 3 23:36:00 mythtv kernel: ivtv: ==================== END INIT IVTV ====================

Interesting stuff i pulled of the screen after i exited mythtv.
Not sure what it means.


2006-08-04 00:21:32.721 Starting media monitor.
2006-08-04 00:21:53.084 New DB connection, total: 2
2006-08-04 00:21:53.086 Connected to database 'mythconverg' at host: localhost
2006-08-04 00:21:53.166 Connecting to backend server: 127.0.0.1:6543 (try 1 of 5)
2006-08-04 00:21:53.174 Using protocol version 26
2006-08-04 00:21:53.220 TV: Attempting to change from None to WatchingLiveTV
2006-08-04 00:21:53.227 Using protocol version 26
2006-08-04 00:21:53.426 GetEntryAt(-1) failed.
2006-08-04 00:21:53.445 EntryToProgram(0@Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970) failed to get pginfo
2006-08-04 00:21:53.446 TV Error: LiveTV not successfully started
2006-08-04 00:21:53.447 TV Error: LiveTV not successfully started
2006-08-04 00:21:53.453 TV: Deleting TV Chain in destructor
2006-08-04 00:22:20.801 GuideGrid:
You don't have any channels defined in the database.
Guide grid will have nothing to show you.
Destroying SipFsm object

It means exactly what is states...

When MythTV's setup ran, did you define the card? Did you create and bind a source to the card's input? Stop the backend and run mythtv-setup to correct, the restart the backend (<alt><2> and <alt><s> then <alt><1>).

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cesman

When the source is open, the possibilities are endless!

Ugh. Looks like our friends at Hauppauge strike again...

Oh no! Not "type 4", that never works!

As expected given the above...

You maybe able to force the tuner type and get this limping along. Please search for "type 4" with me as the author. I was just helping someone with this same issue earlier this week.

yes I defined the card aswell as bound the card to cable/tuner input and did the backend thingy.

Well the Egg sent me the wrong card so I think i will try to get them to send me a different card. Is that right course of action?
Should I try to get a new card?

What is the type 4 thing all about?

Did you search for it like I said to? I just explained this to someone else, and setting the tuner type worked for them. Here are three of the most recent previous discussions:

http://mysettopbox.tv/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=11047
http://mysettopbox.tv/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=9621
http://mysettopbox.tv/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=9067

OBTW - A "tuner type not set" error qualifies as "unrecognized". I'm pretty sure that the user who got this working had already done the ivtv upgrade as recommended earlier. If just setting the type as described in the linked posts doesn't fix it, then the upgrade is probably necessary, if not sufficient.

well I am about to give up on this crap.

I edited etc/mythtv/modules/ivtv and added the options ivtv tuner=50 line

I did step four on http://www.knoppmythwiki.org/index.php?page=CompileIvtv

I still get no static/snow or anything when i try to watch live tv.

Did you do the whole ivtv driver upgrade procedure? New driver, new firmware, redo the configuration, ... If you have things setup so that you can cut and paste from your browser to a shell session on the KM box it takes all of about 5 minutes.

ok i will try that tomorrow

ok after finally sitting down and try all the steps, I got it to work woohoo

Thanks for your help.

I now get picture but it is really crappy.
I am running this setup on a 40 inch DLP TV through a VGA input
I think it may have something to do with the resolution but I am not sure.
If anybody has any ideas for me, I would love to hear them.
I will sniff around and try to find a solution on the forums.

Thanks again guys for your time.

There is a new picture quality page up on the wiki you may want to look at.

I saw that page last night after my post .

I checked all the connections and i am using the same cable i had plugged into the tv.

I am not sure how to change the resolution to eliminate that as a problem

OK wow if I have to do this this too get it to work, I will give up and install XP and go that route

http://knoppmythwiki.org/index.php?page=HDTVSetupHowTo