I saw a PCI-E x1 tuner the other day. Anybody know if there's any that work with myth? I only have two PCI slots, and one has my 150 in it, an' putting a card in the other would be way too close to the vid card. So I'm hopin' to put a PCI-E x1 tuner in there.

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Interesting! What make and model is it? That's the only way to find out if it'll work.

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It's the PowerColor tuner, IIRC. Unfortunately, from what I could find, it's an ATI chipset and no linux support. That was the only PCI-E x1 tuner I could find.

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There are a few out there, I've found a UK stockist with Terratec Cinergy 2400i DT DVB-T TV.

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/TV_Cards.html

I've not got a PCIe mothrboard in my myth box at the moment, but for future plans it'd be useful to know if these worked.

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Apart from the Cinergy, I've found online, the QuattroS (<jazz-club>nice!</jazz-club>) available in .au, the KWorld Dual DVB tuner, the Black Gold Dual DVB-T/Analogue & Dual Analogue.

BTW, I found that Blackmagic design has a Dual HDMI capture card, so that you should be able to capture HD from a STB that doesn't have Firewire out.

As far as I understand, there is no released documentation for a particular chip for the Cinergy, the QuattroS is being worked on. The Kworld and the BlackGold I still have to look up Linux compatability for.

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Actually, it looks like one is input and one is output, but even so - woot! I've contacted them to talk about reseller pricing and to try to get them to send cards to developers for MythTV support.

This would be most useful in conjunction with a [component video + optical audio] -> HDMI converter box, since there'd be no DRM on that path. Unless people start making displays that require DRM, of course.

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That is a very beautiful thing indeed.

My planned upgrade to HD next year could well include one of those.

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Wow. Didn't realize the others were out there. Sweet. Hopefully they'll be working by the time I'm ready to do HD.

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In the past I've been in touch with alot of people at Blackmagic. Evidently there are some barriers to that HDMI card.

1. It will only capture uncompressed, unencrypted streams. Anything with 'record never' or 5c streams will not get captured.
2. There are no linux drivers. Blackmagic has said that if they see enough demand, they *may* build drivers for it.
3. Dual ports, but one records and one is output. However they said it can also act as a genlock so this is a mystery. Supposed to handle live HDMI mixing as well (!).
4. The nice people at Blackmagic aren't sure what set top boxes this card will work with. Things might have changed over the last few weeks but the last time I spoke to them, they were trying to get their hands on some boxes to test.

I had an entire thread dedicated to this with correspondence from people at Blackmagic on the AVSForums but now I can't find it.

That's fine. I think most people will use this with a converter that goes from a format unencumbered by DRM to HDMI.

That's good to know. I contacted them as the person running mythic.tv and explained our previous successes selling cards like the Air2PC/AirStar card, which had Linux support added by people in the Linux community, with the help of BBTI. I explained that by donating a few cards to driver developers and one to Cecil, and by having their own driver writers answer questions the Linux driver developers had, they could have Linux support and KnoppMyth integration.

Ultimately, even if they have no interest in supporting Linux, it only takes a single competitor to come out with a similar product and support Linux, gaining the MythTV market share. I mean, ATI didn't give a crap about Linux until nVidia had become the vendor of choice for video cards in Linux. Now ATI cares enough to get Linux credibility.

Interesting. When I hear back from them, I'll be sure to emphasize that capture support is really all that MythTV users would need before buying the card. I suppose it's possible that when they hear "Linux support" they envision having to make every feature work and port their editing apps to Linux.

That's the impression I got, too. The cards are supposed to work with HDCP (whether it's hardware-level or software-level support I don't know) but they were going to have to test them on US STBs to be sure. (It seems to be a situation similar to BBTI, where there's a core company located in some other country, with integrators here to handle redesigns for the local markets.)

Doh! Well, if you find it, let me know. I'd like to know what conversations have happened before so I can try to avoid rehashing the same topics with them.

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Human: PM me with your email address or I can just PM my conversations with Blackmagic to you. They really are a great group of people and very helpful and eager.

Thanks! Actually, you can just click on the email link below my message.

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Done. Feel like an idiot for missing that email icon.

Don't feel bad - I saw them all the time and didn't realize they were useful for about a year

By the way, your email went directly into my spam folder. Clearly you learned to write by reading a lot of spam

Thanks for sending that. I'll look it over and use it as a guide for my conversations with them. I hope it'll lead to MythTV support and let us sell this new card in our store.

EDIT: Ooo, they make a component video capture card, too. No mention of sound, though.

EDIT: "Our unit needs to have signal come from a device that not only supports HDCP but 'flags' the data as not copy protected. [...] If you have a device that doesn't support HDCP then you can't capture
anything." This could be a problem, depending on whether or not a converter to HDMI would incorporate enough HDCP to declare that the content isn't protected. I wonder who made them make this unfortunate design decision. Certainly not their customers.

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Don't know why I'd end up looking like a spammer...maybe an html signature file pissed off the filter. Oh well, at least you got it and you can whitelist me.