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 Post subject: FX5200 Blank TV screen?
PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 7:00 am 
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Just got my new FX5200 today after playing with an old Rage II trying to get it to work.. so far the old rage II has worked better than the FX5200. Currently I have no TV at all, not even during boot, just a blank screen. I did have a monitor signal until i tried the config found in the Wiki, but now my monitor just goes into sleep mode as soon as I get past boot.

Is this a duff FX5200 or is there another reason for this behaviour?


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 7:31 pm 
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The one on the wiki is for NTSC TVs. If you're not in the US or CA it probably won't work for you. (Based on linguistic clues I'd guess you're in the UK or ANZ.) Please provide at least minimal location info in your profile. So many of the setup questions depend on your local broadcast standards and grabber availability that without it we're trying to answer in the dark.

Lacking better info all I can say is see the troubleshooting pages on the wiki, especially - http://www.knoppmythwiki.org/index.php?page=BlackScreenAfterInstall


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 6:59 am 
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Yes i am in the UK, ill update my profile in a second.

I looked at that wiki page but i dont think its a driver problem as there is nothing on the screen at all, not even during boot. On all the ATI cards ive ever owned its at least displayed something on the TV during boot (Yes i am an ATI fanboy, flame me if you must) is this different for the nVidia cards?


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 7:09 am 
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Hi ijakings,
When I first bought myself a FX5200, I couldn't get it to work using s-video out (whereas on my old MX400 did out of the box).
Some questions:
Are you having only screen plugged in (not vga monitor and tv)? - two screens can be problematic...
If your mythbox was built initially with the rage card, and you've now added the nvidia card, perhaps you don't have the drivers installed? - An auto upgrade may sort you out.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 7:11 am 
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There are cases (both ATI and NVIDIA) where the boot loader needs to be told what resolutions to use for the console. I do not remember the exact options to use, but searching should provide them pretty quickly. Then you can use the CD as a rescue disk to update your lilo.conf. There are directions for doing this on the page tjc pointed you to.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 5:37 am 
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Hi tophee thanks for the reply, I have tried with only the TV Plugged in and im still not getting anything at all in the POST or anything that follows after it including the knoppmyth boot on the TV. The monitor works fine on everything and i tried a DVI -> VGA adapter and that is working fine also. My next step is going to be to wipe knoppmyth off and reinstall XP Pro as a test system jsut to check if i can get any output in that and then i will know its not the card. If that doesnt work i will try it on different TV's around the house because my TV is just a cheap old one for my bedroom and i dont think its refresh rate or max resolution is very high.

Sorry about the lateness of my reply ive been having some ISP issues where they thought i was stealing broadband for some reason, but i have that all worked out now.

On the plus side i did manage to bag an older PVR 500 with the Phillips tuners instead of the samsung ones :D for £70 so it cant all be bad.

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But firstly im going to reinstall and change my XF86Config-4 to similar settings to the one on the wiki, i didnt properly read through the one on the wiki so i just copied it accross. Although my current biggest problem is getting patches and things onto that computer as I am also having problems with my wireless card so im having to take everything on multi session CD-R's (Must remember to buy some CD-RW's or a working usb stick lol)


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 2:57 am 
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Ok, Ive reinstalled R5D1 and modified my settings.

I added in

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        Option "ConnectedMonitor" "TV"
        Option "TVStandard" "PAL"
        Option "TVOutFormat" "SVIDEO"


to the Device section under the info on my card and still have nothing on my TV and (once again) my monitor has now stopped working after the boot into X.

I have tried it on various TV's around the house and the only one i could get it to work on was the one downstairs with a DVI in, so still nothing coming out of the SVIDEO. Whats wierd is nothing is being displayed on the Scart channels, nothing at all. I would of thought there would be at least some picture even if it was scrambeled when i put in the above options. Bear in mind im a linux nub so im probably wrong. Ill install Xp Pro tonight and see if i can get anything out of the SVideo at all.

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I just found a X86Config-4 file from a guy in the UK who was having the same problem in mandrake and he suggested using

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Option "DPMS" "on"
Option "MetaModes" "800x600, 800x600; 640x480, 640x480"
Option "SecondMonitorVertRefresh" "60"
Option "TVStandard" "PAL-B"
Option "ConnectedMonitor" "CRT, TV"
Option "TwinViewOrientation" "Clone"
Option "SecondMonitorHorizSync" "30-50"
Option "TwinView"
Option "IgnoreEDID" "1"
Option "TVOutFormat" "COMPOSITE"


In the device section

Im also going to delete all of the Metamodes in the config under my display that are above 800x600.

I didnt bother putting in the "magic" modelines on the wiki, could this also be another reason for it still not working?

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Is there a SaX2 port that would work on knoppmyth? I know this is used in Suse to help to set up your X86Config-4 but i was wondering if there was a port as it may be much easier than all of this lol.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 6:16 am 
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Well the options above didint work so i am installing Windows Pro back onto to see if i can get any TV out on that. This should hopefully tell me if the card is borked or not.

I bought an XpertVision FX5200, are there any vendors anyone can reccomend that work out of the box where TV Out works on Bios aswell without it having to be turned on by drivers.?


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 6:31 am 
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Hi,
That's all too bad it's not working ... yet.
I'm at work atm, but I can post my modeline for PAL tv if you want, or I can PM you my XF86config-4. I only use one modeline - it's a widescreen PAL mode but it works well for me.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 6:36 am 
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Yeh can u PM me your XF86Config-4 please that would be great as atm im not getting anything out on my TV out at all. I tried it on all the TV's in the house and its not getting anything. Ill let you know how the windows Test goes after i finish tonight. I have someone I should be able to flog my current FX5200 to if it turns out it doesnt work anyway.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 11:40 am 
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Yep the cards known. Windows wont output to the TV either it trys but the screen is still blank. Looks like ill be sending it back.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 3:57 pm 
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Here's my modeline anyway. I'll send you my XF86Config-4 tomorrow.
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Modeline "720x576_50.00" 26.57  720 736 808 896  576 577 580 593  -HSync +Vsync

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